News: Hamonic suspended without pay

[TrufleShufle]

Maybe he is vaxxed, but just concerned about bringing home a breakthrough case to his compromised daughter?

Well let's hope not, we already have our pitchforks out, do you think we can just put them away without using them?

 

[dman34]

Simplest answer is usually the most likely one and I think this is it.

Then why sign the contract in the first place?

 

[Static]

Is it true he wants to come to a US team? If it is, what other reason than vaccination stuff?

 

[StickShift]

Besides why he has not reported....

The way this story is technically unfolding under the CBA reminds me a lot of Dustin Byfuglien and his decision to not play in 2019-20. He was initially granted a leave and missed training camp, which later became a suspension without pay once the season began, which ultimately led to the termination of his contract and his retirement from the NHL.

 

[Pointteen]

Hamonic has never hidden how important his family is to him.
Good for him.

 

[Arthuros]

Then why sign the contract in the first place?

To get whatever money he can while he's unsuspended? Maybe he originally felt safe but then changed his mind maybe because they found out their daughter can't safely receive the vaccine?

We've seen other players stand their ground about not vaccinating (few and far between, but still there's precedent). You can be sure that if he thought COVID wasn't dangerous, he would take / ignore precautions in order to play.

If he's truly against vaccination "just because" then let's bring out those pitchforks. Until then, I would believe more that there are some legitimate concerns surrounding his daughter and the danger of COVID even if he is vaccinated.

 

[tarheelhockey]

What does this have to do with him getting vaxxed to go to work?????

Even If his daughter has a compromised immune system... He could go get a f***ing covid test when hes coming home to make sure that he's clean.

I felt sick in March .. I thought it wasn't covid. I got tested for my families sake. In 12 hours I found out it was covid and quarantined. It's not rocket science. So yes. f*** him!

Not entirely realistic on an NHL player's schedule. It takes about 3 days for a COVID infection to reliably show up on tests, because the viral load has to get to the point of being detectable in a sample.

If he has a road game on Tuesday night and a home game on Thursday night (which happens all the time) then he probably gets home early Wednesday. He won't be reliably testable until Friday. In the meantime he has been back in Vancouver for 3 days including a day where he had to play an NHL game. Where is he supposed to go during that time? Is he supposed to live out of a hotel and not see his family at all? How many times does that scenario happen in a given season, where he is basically maintaining two separate homes in order to wait for testing results to come back?

If that's the issue he's dealing with, it's rather a different story than some anti-vax nonsense. He's already made something like $30M in NHL salary, at some point it becomes more important to be with an infant daughter than to grind himself down to dust for the sake of making more money.

 

[Mergatroidskittle]

Its almost like you don't know that vaccinated people still can get and spread COVID. It is less likely, but it happens regularly. The main advantage is vaccinated people rarely die from COVID.

So its possible he is vaccinated but doesn't want to travel with an NHL team and risk bringing home covid to his family. It is also possible he's not vaxed. We don't know - at least not from a definitive/credible source.

Why the f*** did he sign a brand new contract then if he didn’t want to travel.

 

[dman34]

Not entirely realistic on an NHL player's schedule. It takes about 3 days for a COVID infection to reliably show up on tests, because the viral load has to get to the point of being detectable in a sample.

If he has a road game on Tuesday night and a home game on Thursday night (which happens all the time) then he probably gets home early Wednesday. He won't be reliably testable until Friday. In the meantime he has been back in Vancouver for 3 days including a day where he had to play an NHL game. Where is he supposed to go during that time? Is he supposed to live out of a hotel and not see his family at all? How many times does that scenario happen in a given season, where he is basically maintaining two separate homes in order to wait for testing results to come back?

If that's the issue he's dealing with, it's rather a different story than some anti-vax nonsense. He's already made something like $30M in NHL salary, at some point it becomes more important to be with an infant daughter than to grind himself down to dust for the sake of making more money.

Exactly. If money was the reason for his decision, that's a bit of a douchebag move. Maybe it's time to start respecting the team and your teammates instead of being a distraction.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Do I say you need to listen to random YouTuber or Twitter? Maybe that education means to you but not me.

Unfortunately too many people are listening to the random YouTuber with apparent credentials than the entire department of people with the same credentials who fire him for posting misleading information while using their credentials.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Its almost like you don't know that vaccinated people still can get and spread COVID. It is less likely, but it happens regularly. The main advantage is vaccinated people rarely die from COVID.

So its possible he is vaccinated but doesn't want to travel with an NHL team and risk bringing home covid to his family. It is also possible he's not vaxed. We don't know - at least not from a definitive/credible source.

This has nothing to do with my post. So I won’t get into a reply detailing how you think I’m wrong. Other than to say I never said vaccinated people cannot spread covid.

 

[E D]

 

[JoeCool16]

Well let's hope not, we already have our pitchforks out, do you think we can just put them away without using them?

It's tough, because people are naturally just incredibly, incredibly curious. It's a bad time to disappear without word and even with the list of four players unvaxxed being released, people are going to draw conclusions. Both Hamonic and the Canucks could easily put away all those pitchforks just by giving the info. I sense, though, if they did we'd go "ohhh, I get why he kept that a secret".

 

[Scorvat]

Maybe he is vaxxed, but just concerned about bringing home a breakthrough case to his compromised daughter?

If that was the case he could have opted out or opted into the player assistance program that the NHLPA has running. Not to mentation the silence coming from his group.

It obviously isn't helpful to speculate, but the complete lack of clarity is damning imo

 

[mouser]

The only players on LTIR are Ferland, Sutter, and Keeper. Sutter is the only one who might come off.

Sadly all the bonuses are rolling to next year.

Yeah, even if Hamonic was off the cap Vancouver still appears committed to running LTIR the entire season.

 

[BSHH]

Where was that ever confirmed?

I thought the 4 were: Blackwood, Archibald, Rinaldo and Bertuzzi

This may be a stupid question and certainly does not imply anything about Harmonic's vaccination status: Did Harmonic actually count as an NHLer when this statement with the four unvaccinated players was published?

Gruß,
BSHH

 

[Mergatroidskittle]

Simplest answer is usually the most likely one and I think this is it.

Why did he sign a new contract then? Did he think Covid was gonna vanish before the season started?

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

This may be a stupid question and certainly does not imply anything about Harmonic's vaccination status: Did Harmonic actually count as an NHLer when this statement with the four unvaccinated players was published?

Gruß,
BSHH

I assumed it applied to anyone whom is under an NHL contract

 

[VanCity Millionaires]

Because it was already reported that Hamonic was 1 of 4 non-vaxxed players.

Care to provide a source for this?

 

[VanCity Millionaires]

Why did he sign a new contract then? Did he think Covid was gonna vanish before the season started?

I think it is quite possible he thought the situation would improve. Didn't we all? Hell, we have all been told many times to do this, that, or the other and things will start to get better...

 

[golffuul]

I assumed it applied to anyone whom is under an NHL contract

That and if he was unable to play due to being unvaccinated, he would have been suspended before the season so that Vancouver could make the proper roster moves until such time as a potential resolution occurred. As Hamonic has a history of family/personal issues, it's more reasonable to work on this than to assume otherwise.

 

[VanCity Millionaires]

If I had to make a guess, it would be that he acknowledges, as we all should, that vaccinated or not you can still catch and spread the virus. He is certainly vaccinated, due to his daughters precarious situation. However, knowing full well that a year of travel in crowded places, and in US cities where many are not vaccinated, he has a high likelihood of catching and transmitting the virus to his precious daughter he has decided not to play. I'm sure he wants to play, but it's not worth the risk, and he doesn't need the cash.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

No you don't

so you know my personal life? Glad that you know my niece has an immunodeficiency but sure

 

[Mergatroidskittle]

I think it is quite possible he thought the situation would improve. Didn't we all? Hell, we have all been told many times to do this, that, or the other and things will start to get better...

? No most sane people didn’t think this major pandemic that’s killed so many would just vanish? He thought things would get better while not being vaxxed? I’m going off my conclusions (for him not being backed) from what’s been given from the Canucks. Why not state he’s vaxxed if he is? This has been in the media for weeks now?

 

[Mergatroidskittle]

If I had to make a guess, it would be that he acknowledges, as we all should, that vaccinated or not you can still catch and spread the virus. He is certainly vaccinated, due to his daughters precarious situation. However, knowing full well that a year of travel in crowded places, and in US cities where many are not vaccinated, he has a high likelihood of catching and transmitting the virus to his precious daughter he has decided not to play. I'm sure he wants to play, but it's not worth the risk, and he doesn't need the cash.

I’d love your source on that? Or just speculation?