Post-Game Talk: Habs win one in Detroit on Laine's powerplay winning goal

[LaP]

I don’t trust the habs scouting to find late gems at this point. Look at the Leafs picking late and still getting good, big players. Watch Montreal not do that. If the habs don’t upgrade their scouting they need another top five pick or two.

They just found Hutson and Beck looks pretty good atm. Hage looks like a win to me. We'll have 8 to 9 picks in the top 3 rounds that's a lot if they miss with all it's going to be bad.

 

[Runner77]

Only on the team, with Caufield, not league-wide

Does anyone have a reliable site that keeps track of individual PPG stats? It’s going to be worth referencing, the way Laine is going.

 

[David Suzuki]

there’s zero reason why Primeau is still in the NHL

Tbf that's been obvious for a while

 

[expy]

Does anyone have a reliable site that keeps track of individual PPG stats? It’s going to be worth referencing, the way Laine is going.

NHL Stats

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www.nhl.com

 

[salbutera]

On another note, while Hughes and Gorton deserve their share of criticism for the start (Gorton even admitted they shouldn't have gone with so many young D) and the high value given on some trades, I look at Detroit and I have no idea what the plan is there. Yzerman certainly hasn't reproduced his TB magic and he clearly doesn't have someone like Brisebois helping him.

TBay magic was all about starting with two elite talents at key positions (Stamkos + Hedman) + player desirable advantage (taxes + market) + taking advantage of inside info on upcoming rule changes due to concussion lawsuits transforming the league towards more speed & skill

 

[Runner77]

The carrier trade was sneaky good..with laine Habs have a ridiculous PP. it will depend how consistent Dikembe is, but I suspect we’re not getting a top 5 pick. If Dach doesn’t figure it out, they’ll have to get creative.
With Demidov and Laine next year plus slaf, Cole and Suzuki, Habs suddenly have a lethal group

If Dach stagnates or downspirals in the 2nd half, then they can re-evaluate at that point.

They could certainly use him in a package to either land a high upside 2C or to shore up their RD. Some team is bound to pay up for his age and size.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

A small bit of interesting info, the team is fourth in both amounts of 22+ and 20mph+ speed bursts, meaning we have one of consistently fastest teams in the league.

Also Slafkovsky is slower than last year. So no, all of your eyes are not deceiving you, though I find its because he just doesn't move his feet enough.

i wonder if that's a misleading stat... imo one of the team's flaws is how slow they are. there is not a single speedster on the roster.

 

[dcyhabs]

They just found Hutson and Beck looks pretty good atm. Hage looks like a win to me. We'll have 8 to 9 picks in the top 3 rounds that's a lot if they miss with all it's going to be bad.

On average they’ll get 1-2 nhlers from those picks. One of them may be good if the habs pick is high.

The habs are missing 1-2 top pairing D and possibly a Dach replacement. They already have too many small players. The easiest way to fill the holes is a couple more top 5 picks.

They are missing bottom 6 forwards and at least one more defensive D, but those holes should be relatively easy to fill.

 

[Gravity]

It’s games like this that you can really see the potential of this club. Add Demidov and a top pairing D. Getting there slowly

How did you get that impression? Every youngster except for Hutson and Heineman was terrible.

 

[Sorinth]

TBay magic was all about starting with two elite talents at key positions (Stamkos + Hedman) + player desirable advantage (taxes + market) + taking advantage of inside info on upcoming rule changes due to concussion lawsuits transforming the league towards more speed & skill

Pretty sure getting Kucherov, Point with 2nd and 3rd round picks were just as important as Stamkos and Hedman. Not too mention a bunch of very good depth players like Killorn, Palat, Cirelli. And of course Vasilevski.

Building through the draft is so much more then just the top picks. Which incidentally included a bunch of whiffs, Drouin (3rd OA), Koekkoek (10th), Connolly (6th).

 

[Rapala]

Habs won this game despite Hutson/Matheson and the 1st line not being that good.

MSL will have to break Hutson/Matheson, or don't play them with the 1st line against top opposition.

The first line needs to start scoring some goals Suzuki was shadowed by JT Compher all night and totally sucked.
He did get the wicked one timer off that hit Talbot but -2 and 40% on draws yuck.
Suzuki does not play well against JT Compher he didn't last season either.
He also useless on the PP in the bumper position what a f***ing joke playing him there.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

The first line needs to start scoring some goals Suzuki was shadowed by JT Compher all night and totally sucked.
He did get the wicked one timer off that hit Talbot but -2 and 40% on draws yuck.
Suzuki does not play well against JT Compher he didn't last season either.
He also useless on the PP in the bumper position what a f***ing joke playing him there.

Another washed Suzuki takes
Plays 1 average game , bashed to oblivion

 

[the]

Laine > The whole team

 

[Rapala]

Season’s hanging on a thread. If they play Primeau and he blows it, the full wrath of fans will fall on MSL. I know this fanbase. If he wins, some will probably even blame MSL for being reckless for playing him.

The season is not hanging on a thread we can barely beat shit teams.

Another washed Suzuki takes
Plays 1 average game , bashed to oblivion

Right.
I'm pointing out facts.
Suzuki is my boy and because he's my boy I notice these things.
Compher was in his back pocket for most of the evening.
I don't think the goals against were necessarily his fault but none the less his line wasn't great.
Marty would do well to get him a different match up in Montreal and stop using him as a bumper on the PP.

 

[the]

Patrik Laine is a once in a lifetime attraction. He’s our generation Guy Lafleur.

 

[HuGort]

Carrier looked like he fit in well. Didn't make any mistakes, opposite of Barron. He played 19 minutes, was plus 1.

Dvorak 75% on faceoffs.

 

[Vapaatunnus]

Laine is just stupid from that spot.

Yeah, let's move him away from it, like they did in Columbus.

 

[nippanappa]

Even though nothing came out of it, I think the 2nd line had a decent game? Got a few long shifts in the offensive zone and even a couple of chances.

 

[ReHabs]

I thought it was a solid win for a change. I mean, that Matheson Hutson duo is a disaster and I have no idea why they are paired together (both were on for all 3 goals I think) but overall, they beat a team they should beat. Came from behind. I was surprised it was Arbs first goal... thought he had one earlier in the season. Laine is lethal with that shot - good trade. Carrier didn't suck - so already better than Barron.

1 of 6. 5 more to go (in a row) and we are in da playoffs!!!!

Win or lose, a game that looks competitive is much better for the eyes and the mind. A top pairing dman would make a world of difference for this team.

Pretty sure getting Kucherov, Point with 2nd and 3rd round picks were just as important as Stamkos and Hedman. Not too mention a bunch of very good depth players like Killorn, Palat, Cirelli. And of course Vasilevski.

Building through the draft is so much more then just the top picks. Which incidentally included a bunch of whiffs, Drouin (3rd OA), Koekkoek (10th), Connolly (6th).

Quotes for truth. Tampa absolutely nailed it with their later round drafting. I always think a team should swing for the fences with all their draft picks because the upside is worth so much more than the cost. I wonder what was the scouting report on Point and Kucherov. Point was a “bad” skater, right?

Laine > The whole team

When you see elite talent you know it. Laine is that guy. We’re lucky to have him.

 

[Runner77]

Laine generating massive force in more ways than one.

 

[Walrus26]

i wonder if that's a misleading stat... imo one of the team's flaws is how slow they are. there is not a single speedster on the roster.

Wait, what?

Matheson skates like a Rolls-Royce, effortlessly smooth and bloody quick. Anderson skates like a 20th century Lambo, all shouty unpredictable power and bloody quick. Heineman skates like Noble, rough round the edges and assembled on a dodgy industrial estate in Leicestershire but also powerfully quick and underrated.

Our top line forwards, though - yeah, not so much.

 

[Gally11]

I don’t trust the habs scouting to find late gems at this point. Look at the Leafs picking late and still getting good, big players. Watch Montreal not do that. If the habs don’t upgrade their scouting they need another top five pick or two.

Is this sarcasm lol?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Is this sarcasm lol?

Yeah pretty weird take. I think the only player on their roster they drafted outside the top 5 is Knies.

 

[Aces on the road]

Armia was man of the match. Showed some confidence at the end, stayed on the ice even after long pk.
Laine took headlines in Finland. Would be nice to dig some old posts when Laine was traded to Habs. Some posters were mad and now pissing honey.

 

[Marioesque]

Yeah, let's move him away from it, like they did in Columbus.

And Winnipeg at times