Lampedampe
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Habs vs Wings
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BigDaddyLurch
Exiled from Reality
...you people still arguing this??...most talking heads have our propect pools close; we're literally beside each other in the standings...lets just all hug it out and say we're really close... 
Egresch
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The year is 2031. Nate Danielson is PPG Top 6C ... in AHL, Applying the same stupid logicThe year is 2031. Kirby Dach is still a potential Top 6C who is being held back by injuries.
Egresch
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Buchelnikov average ice time is 17:29, Demidov has 12:44, they are not really close.
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Lampedampe
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Larkin = Suzuki
Raymond > Caufield
Kasper < Slafkovsky
Seider > Hutson (Hutson will probably surpass, but i wanna see atleast 1 full season.)
Edvinsson > Reinbacher
Debrincat = Laine
Nygaard << Demidov
Danielson > Hage
Sandin-Pellikka >> Mailloux
Lombardi = Beck
Buchelnikov > Roy
Buium = Engström
Flame away guys.
I reckon it's really close.
Difference is that since 2018 Red Wings have had 1 top-5 pick while Montreal has had 1OA, 3OA, and 2 5OAs
Raymond > Caufield
Kasper < Slafkovsky
Seider > Hutson (Hutson will probably surpass, but i wanna see atleast 1 full season.)
Edvinsson > Reinbacher
Debrincat = Laine
Nygaard << Demidov
Danielson > Hage
Sandin-Pellikka >> Mailloux
Lombardi = Beck
Buchelnikov > Roy
Buium = Engström
Flame away guys.
I reckon it's really close.
Difference is that since 2018 Red Wings have had 1 top-5 pick while Montreal has had 1OA, 3OA, and 2 5OAs
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Pavels Dog
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Even with a pretty big homer take you're landing a minor advantage to Montreal, mostly in the unproven pieces (Dach, Hage, Demidov).Then it is even clearer.
Larkin = Suzuki they are very close, I am not wasting my time debating this
Raymond > Caufield
Kasper << Slafkovsky
DeBrincat = Laine
Danielson < Dach/Hage
MBN/Buchelnikov << Demidov
I might even agree that on pure talent/offense, Montreal's forward group is trending slightly ahead. But it's a slight advantage, and one that's depending on Demidov/Hage becoming what you hope, and at least one of Dach/Slafkovsky breaking out and reaching potential.
And Kasper is above PPG since being put together with Larkin and Raymond.
The year is 2031. Nate Danielson is PPG Top 6C ... in AHL, Applying the same stupid logic
I mean yeah, if Danielson were still half PPG in the AHL at 24 I'd probably be considering him a bust.
But here Kirby Dach is at 24, with a 30 point pace, on his 5th straight season now of "He's really good, it's just the injuries!"
Detroit has the top 4 players out of the entire Detroit and Montreal organizations - Larkin, Seider, Edvinsson, and Raymond. There is no one Montreal could offer that would convince me to trade any of these 4 in a one for one deal.
Stewie Griffin
What the deuce
This is just prime entertainment. Ridiculous takes on both sides.
I think they're very close. One is building a defensive team the other offensive. The one thing I will say is there's alot of projecting in Montreal's prospects. Which is fair, but if you're projecting them to become unreal there's also the chance they don't reach that.
I think they're very close. One is building a defensive team the other offensive. The one thing I will say is there's alot of projecting in Montreal's prospects. Which is fair, but if you're projecting them to become unreal there's also the chance they don't reach that.
Bigtrout
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Seems kinda hopeless to try and have a legit discussion without getting swarmed by homers and rage baits
Stewie Griffin
What the deuce
There's so many comments in this thread I wanted to reply to but then I kept reading and was like, oh wait nvm the other fanbase just said something just as crazy...
Realistically:
Detroit's better defensively.
Both teams are pretty similar at forward and have intriguing prospects, but Montreal obviously has the biggest blue chip in Demidov.
Both have not one, but two good goalie prospects. I'd take Detroit's duo, but goalies are so incredibly unpredictable that we really have no idea where it's gonna go.
End of the day, both teams are relatively even at the NHL level right now, and the future is going to entirely depend on how they develop their current guys.
I will say I like how Hughes has weaponized cap better than Yzerman. I was pounding the table for us to take on Monahan from Calgary. I have the Athletic "Ask us" Mailbag publication as evidence.
Xspyrit
DJ Dorion
It was never the point! At least not MY point.
You seriously can't differentiate various posters? That is god damn amazing
I know what you are by the way. The typical nordiques fan living in the past. I was a nordiques fan too. I just dont live in the past like you.
You know you're in a sad place when you live in montreal and choose to be a senators fan
lol I was a Nordiques for like 3 years because they moved just a few years after I arrived in Canada! I don't need to do like everyone else so I never felt the need to be a Habs fan which is frankly great.
What, you don't see it... by yourself? lol is it a joke?
It was 243 words and it could have been my last post on the subject if you didn't start quoting me like an obsessed freak lol
I exchanged a few posts with another Habs fan Bigtrout, it was so much easier and fluid! But gotta admit, not as hilarious hahaha
Difference is that since 2018 Red Wings have had 1 top-5 pick while Montreal has had 1OA, 3OA, and 2 5OAs
Damn it's crazy, more than a lot of teams. Even Ottawa only got 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th and 10th (although Dorion is to blame for a lot of things)
Is Kotkaniemi, Slafkovský, Reinbacher and Demidov a good haul for 1 + 3 + 5 + 5 ???
I mean yeah, if Danielson were still half PPG in the AHL at 24 I'd probably be considering him a bust.
But here Kirby Dach is at 24, with a 30 point pace, on his 5th straight season now of "He's really good, it's just the injuries!"
It's actually his 6th season already... In 2 of these seasons, he only played 20 games total...
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FissionFire
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Hutson will surpass Seider offensively but I have serious doubts he will ever be better than him overall as a 1D, if he ever even reaches that level. Reinbacher is the Habs best hope for a true 1D.Larkin = Suzuki
Raymond > Caufield
Kasper < Slafkovsky
Seider > Hutson (Hutson will probably surpass, but i wanna see atleast 1 full season.)
Edvinsson > Reinbacher
Debrincat = Laine
Nygaard << Demidov
Danielson > Hage
Sandin-Pellikka >> Mailloux
Lombardi = Beck
Buchelnikov > Roy
Buium = Engström
Flame away guys.
I reckon it's really close.
Difference is that since 2018 Red Wings have had 1 top-5 pick while Montreal has had 1OA, 3OA, and 2 5OAs
Yeah your point... that had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.
I knew it. So obvious.
Are you dense?
243 words essay, im glad you went back to count. So a 243 words essay in an attempt to deflect the discussion at hand, which you reposted about 5 times.
Xspyrit
DJ Dorion
No, it was never MY point
It's crazy that you still don't understand. Frankly, I have been on HF for 17 years and I have never seen something as ridiculous and God knows how much I have seen over the years. Congrats, really.
lol you're saying that after not understanding a very simple point?
I'll help you a little cuz I'm starting to feel pity. These players were drafted AFTER the rebuild, but the picks that were used for it came from assets that were in Montreal BEFORE their rebuild
That's some Nobel prize level shit here, no?
copy/paste, word counter, takes me 5 seconds. There was no deflection, just a side comment. lol you must be losing sleep over this at night and it's hilarious. I'm addicted to the free dope here!
Its funny that i feel the exact same about you. Congrats, really.
You just can't be serious. Those assets that you keep referring to... the habs acquired them when they were a bubble team. You know that every teams gets 7 draft picks every years right? Do you understand that very basic concept?
