Hostility noted, though not sure deserved...
Wasn't meant to be hostile, going forward is an extremely vague timeline. I was literally just asking a specific timeline.....
Management was talking about being in the mix before the season started so we can assume they wanted to get out of bottom 10 territory and show some progression.
You’re splitting hairs. Fact is Montreal didn’t start a rebuild from nothing, because they already had rebuild/re-tool/reload/whatever years very recently. If you want to do a Detroit vs Montreal comparison you simply can’t pretend Montreal’s 2021 was the same situation as Detroit in 2017.
But he is only trending better if you think he will eventually become more than a 90 points player. I personally believe he peaks at 90ish. Some players peak earlier than others but that doesnt mean they will be better in the long run as someone who didn't peak early. I hope you realize that. Suzuki has only been trending up so far in his career and right now, they're pretty damn close. Caufield had his development slowed by a nearly year long shoulder injury but now he has 44 pts in 46. Lets see if the trend continues before using hyperboles like "trending significantly better" when hes only 3 points ahead of Suzuki after 46 games. Im not sure if you know the definition of the word "significant".
A rebuild begins when a team starts liquidating assets. You know that right? The habs weren't trying to suck until mid 2022. Hell, Bergevin tried his best to replace Weber for the 2022-23 season. In the off season, he spent quite a lot on the free agency market before the 2022 season. Anderson at 5.5 mill, Savard at 4.5 mill. That is not the behavior of a GM who is rebuilding. I know that sens and wings fans would like to convince themselves that the habs rebuild has been going on for years (like theirs) but sorry to burts your bubble, it hasn't. The 4th year of their rebuild is starting about now, when Hughes started liquidating assets in 2022.
So Demidov isn’t trending better than Buchelnikov, he’s just ”peaking early”? Am I doing it right?
You're trying to be a smart ass. Tell me what are the odds that Raymond becomes a regular 100pts player?
Raymond rely a lot on the pp to get his pts this year. At even strength, he's on pace to be worse than last year. For reference, he's at 24pts this year already. Suzuki and Caufield are at 15 and 11 respectively.
Considering his current scoring pace at his current age... better than anyone else's odds in either organization.
Are you referring the the same Raymond who ranked 19th in the NHL in even strength points last year at age 21? Where did the older Caufield rank?
Yes, that's what I was reffering too. Is he riding a hot pp only or is he a 90pts player?
yes, it's not mutually exclusive, i agree. But it doesn't look really sustainable right now if you compare with the competition.
Just adding context to the response. Raymond scored 72 pts last year without being over reliant on the PP. This year he has absolutely benefited to being on PP1 with Kane all year.
How is he being a smart ass? you've just placed a random arbitrary cap on our player and insist there are no caps on your players.
Oh youre right Raymond will become a perennial 100 pts player. Whatever makes you sleep at night.
My point, which you can't grasp, is that im pretty sure that Raymond will peak at 90 pts. Of course its just an opinion. Suzuki is a nice 2 way centers who plays often on the pk and has been trending up every single year of his career. Saying that one is trending "significantly" better is just stupid. If he said "trending better" i'd be fine with it. It's the dumb use of the word "significant" that irks me, as if Raymond was in a higher class than Suzuki, which he isn't.
