Habs VP of Communications defends Mailloux

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It's such a minor misstep (from Chantal I mean). Not sure how it deserves such a long thread. Actually I know : this thread has turned into an argument over how bad or not what Mailloux did is. Which is pretty much unrelated to the thread title.

I truthfully don't think it would have even reached HF had this PR person not added the details of his actual conviction to their reply. Just something like "No, Mailloux was not convicted of a sexual offense under Swedish law" would've been enough.

Instead, "Chantal" had to remind us of the particulars in pretty graphic detail, so unfortunately it does strike as being done with the explicit of purpose of trying to downplay what actually happened. Again, there's a reason the tweet was deleted- cooler/smarter heads realized how it looked, and yanked it... but not before the damage was done.
 
I truthfully don't think it would have even reached HF had this PR person not added the details of his actual conviction to their reply. Just something like "No, Mailloux was not convicted of a sexual offense under Swedish law" would've been enough.

Instead, "Chantal" had to remind us of the particulars in pretty graphic detail, so unfortunately it does strike as being done with the explicit of purpose of trying to downplay what actually happened. Again, there's a reason the tweet was deleted- cooler/smarter heads realized how it looked, and yanked it... but not before the damage was done.

Yes, not the greatest PR move, but also not overly dramatic. Drafting him, in my opinion, was an awful PR move. It was a bad mistake at the time. But now that the new administration is stuck with him, I appreciate that they don't use every opportunity they get to throw him to the wolves and that they try to rectify the facts when false things are being said. I appreciate that they don't treat him like hot garbage, but instead like a kid who did a major mistake, who paid the price for it, and who now needs to be surrounded and get help.
 
She would fit in well here in the thread where people were arguing Cole wasn't a pedophile because "you need to be attracted to pre-pubescent people to be a pedophile!"

He's not that piece of shit, he's just another piece of shit that I'm arguing purely for semantics.
Read a book. Pedophilia is a specific and much more dangerous thing. It shouldn't be minimised by lumping in people who clearly aren't pedophiles into that category.
 
Why should he? He took a picture of a woman without her consent. He should not be playing.
 
Regardless of what I think of her arguing the semantics of it... why on earth is she arguing with strangers on Twitter in the first place? You'd think a person in her position would have gone through enough PR training to know not to.
Amen. It's a lose-lose.
 
Mailloux is also confused, what the hell Chantal want?
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They are not the same. But they are absolutely in the same basket.
How expansive is your basket then? Are using grotesque slurs towards women (which is undoubtedly unacceptable) in the same basket as a violent assault? Are taking and sharing pictures really even remotely comparable to these other things? The law indicates absolutely not - socially and morally of course you are open to your own interpretation.

I think ultimately - as a Habs fan who did not want Mailloux - there is a delicate line that people both "pro" and "anti" Mailloux must address. If he were to have hurt your daughter or sister, you would understandably want his entire life ruined; his inexplicable choices, and selfish behaviour, ultimately led to trauma for another person that was sexual in nature.

However, if he were your son, or your brother, you would want a singular moment at 17 years old to define the rest of his life. Regardless of what people are willing to admit, good people can do terrible things (similarly, terrible people sometimes do great things) ... the ultimate response is that the kid should be given the chance to right his wrongs and improve himself. He should not be coddled, what he did should not be forgotten, and his character should be in question for the foreseeable future until he undoubtedly proves that he has learned from this event. However, he is 17, and what he did, while reprehensible, is not violent in nature, and would not even be considered a punishable crime by law in North America- it would be a simple misdemeanor.
I'd be asking my daughter what the ......... was she doing giving ........... to a 17 yr old stranger.

I vehemently disagree with blaming the victim. In no way does this hold Mailloux accountable at all, and it does nothing to defend his character or his ability to change - it simply just shifts blame from him to the girl for no appropriate reason.

It can be insensitive to correct minor errors in someone's justified anger at a serious situation.

I would agree to this - I do believe Chantal's choice was insensitive but not inappropriate or wrong. A big detail that some people use as a "gotcha" but is something very much worth understanding is that had this been something that happened, and was prosecuted in the country of Canada, none of us would have heard a single word about it. Mailloux would have been drafted and heralded as a great young player, and nobody would have batted an eye; his record would have been sealed as a minor, and because this is not something that leads to any corporal punishment, it would have been like it never happened.

In no way does this make anything better - but there is a severe misunderstanding that somehow because he was charged with something, that he is suddenly inexplicably guilty of a severe crime. In Canada, this would have been a sealed misdemeanor of a minor; he would have gotten a verbal reprimand, maybe some community service, and released to live the rest of his life without any further issue.


While as I said previously it does not EXCUSE his behaviour - however it should help guide whether or not we allow this individual the opportunity to prove themselves and reintegrate into our community (hockey) - this is not a case like Voynov, Ribeiro, or even what Cole is being accused of - not even REMOTELY on the same plane of behaviour. Hell, I'd argue that what Virtanen and Evander Kane have been accused of is significantly worse than what Mailloux was found guilty of doing. In terms of the way this action is looked at in the eyes of our laws, it would be more akin to stealing from a store or getting into a big street brawl. I would argue this is closer to being caught using racist language than it is to sexual assault or grooming minors. It is still absolutely without a doubt a problematic behaviour, but it is something that is more than correctable and it can be an important learning moment for all parties.
 
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