Value of: Habs veterans between now and Deadline.

[Voight]

You do realize between Jan 1st and the deadline last season, all of four 2nd round picks were traded? Teams dont just give those away for middling players like the ones in your post.

 

[bernmeister]

I personally think the Rangers should pay a 1st for David Savard, and another 1st for Matheson.

no Rs fans thinks same on either of these

 

[bernmeister]

Habs need to fix right side of their D in off season. With collapse of Barron, Reinbacher pushed back a year and Mailloux a ?

Yes, Be couple quality veterans acquired. Habs have 20 million coming off books this summer


Savard is done in Montreal at end of season. Big heavy shot blockering right D with a ring usually go for overvalue at deadline. Increases with Montreal retaining.

Asking less what he went for before. Which was a first and third.

So what is LATEST price on Barron
and is Reinbacher even a discussion?

 

[HuGo Sham]

So what is LATEST price on Barron
and is Reinbacher even a discussion?

No there’s 0 discussion on reinbacher. He’s out until March anyway, and I’m afraid what you’re about to offer for him. He’s a top 5 pick.
As per Barron, Habs don’t want vesey or your third rounder

 

[Treb]

Laine 50% retained

No.

 

[HuGort]

So what is LATEST price on Barron
and is Reinbacher even a discussion?

Barron we will probably lose to waivers at some point. Been major disappointment

Reinbacher is out injured. We not moving him, no.

 

[Bouboumaster]

I don't understand exactly why the Habs should trade Evans?
He's a bit older but he's still really freakin' good, for a bottom 6 role
If anything, we should resign him for as cheap as possible, for as many years as possible

 

[HabzSauce]

Evans is getting pretty underrated here, but no team in their right mind should trade for Dvorak or Savard.

Armia is a good gamble IMO, he can be a beast in the playoffs and when he's bad it usually isn't all that detrimental to the team.

Ya I agree on armia any playoff team will love him in the bottom 6.

Honestly if I were EDM I'd be all over both armia and Evans. Wouldn't cost the farm and together would vastly improve their depth.

 

[pth2]

I don't understand exactly why the Habs should trade Evans?
He's a bit older but he's still really freakin' good, for a bottom 6 role
If anything, we should resign him for as cheap as possible, for as many years as possible

He's a UFA and might be asking for too much, too long or just wants out.

Ya I agree on armia any playoff team will love him in the bottom 6.

There will be better options, cheaper salary wise, for the role he fills. I figure half the value a team gives up for him will go to pass-through retention.

 

[Bouboumaster]

He's a UFA and might be asking for too much, too long or just wants out.


There will be better options, cheaper salary wise, for the role he fills. I figure half the value a team gives up for him will go to pass-through retention.

In that case, we trade him for sure but I'd do something like 3M x 4 Years

 

[HabzSauce]

He's a UFA and might be asking for too much, too long or just wants out.


There will be better options, cheaper salary wise, for the role he fills. I figure half the value a team gives up for him will go to pass-through retention.

Maybe. It's all about fit. Big RW that can protect the puck and kill PK with a scoring touch, at 50% that's pretty good imo.

 

[HuGort]

Ya I agree on armia any playoff team will love him in the bottom 6.

Honestly if I were EDM I'd be all over both armia and Evans. Wouldn't cost the farm and together would vastly improve their depth.

They excellent on penalty kill. Reason why Montreal pk improved this season.

I don't understand exactly why the Habs should trade Evans?
He's a bit older but he's still really freakin' good, for a bottom 6 role
If anything, we should resign him for as cheap as possible, for as many years as possible

It is debatable.

 

[bernmeister]

Barron we will probably lose to waivers at some point. Been major disappointment

Reinbacher is out injured. We not moving him, no.

given the bold, what do you ask?
Rs could use D, esp RD depth. The above suggests Barron is not the answer, but on the off chance change of scenery works, I';; bite if cost is low enuf

 

[vokiel]

I don't understand exactly why the Habs should trade Evans?
He's a bit older but he's still really freakin' good, for a bottom 6 role
If anything, we should resign him for as cheap as possible, for as many years as possible

Because he's likely not signing any extensions without the term being at least what he could get as a UFA. If I look at Matt Roy's contract, it could be significant in length enough to make Habs walk away.

Basically, Evans camp should test the market.

 

[Buttonwood]

Classic stuff - 2 1sts and 3 2nds. Did Bettman mandate that each team gets to pick 2 times in each round? Because then I think there would be a chance...

 

[Benstheman]

Taking Evans out of the conversation because i want the Habs to resign him, i would say we might get a late 2nd (using our last retention spot) and bunch of 3rds for those players

 

[Xirik]

Taking Evans out of the conversation because i want the Habs to resign him, i would say we might get a late 2nd (using our last retention spot) and bunch of 3rds for those players

Why would he resign though,

1A. He's due for a raise
1B. He'll want his payday contract for his 30s
2. He's an obvious stop gap till the Hab's center prospects are ready
3. When the Hab's are finally playoff ready he will obviously be cast aside.

He's obviously a good depth Center and there will be many teams willing to give him what he wants when he becomes UFA.

 

[PenderB]

Taking Evans out of the conversation because i want the Habs to resign him, i would say we might get a late 2nd (using our last retention spot) and bunch of 3rds for those players

I would probably pay a second for double retention on Armia for the Canucks. Unless we get a bigger fish. If he's on his game hes a good middle 6 player and with his size hes built more for the playoffs and would rather not play against him

 

[MasterMatt25]

Bruh we are not getting a 2nd for Dvorak.

His cap hit isn't great and his play has been less than abysmal this season.

A 2nd for Armia also seems a bit rich.

If we sell Evans that's a fine return but I'd rather keep and re-sign him if we can

Would LOVE that for Savard

 

[McJedi]

Habs fans would like to think that Hughes is done being ripped off by MacFarland. He's probably smart enough to realize it too.
I'm not sure you're going to like what Evans will cost at 50% retention. I think it will be more than a low 2nd rounder.
You can have Dvorak for free.

No one needs retention on Evans. His $1.7MM cap hit is easy to fit into most team's structures.

Dvorak would require 50% retention to have any value. I'd trade something for him at 50% retained.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Cool your jets, OP. 3-1-0 since Laine returned, something like that? I think your tank is dead for now. Don't need to sell anybody.

 

[HuGo Sham]

No one needs retention on Evans. His $1.7MM cap hit is easy to fit into most team's structures.

Dvorak would require 50% retention to have any value. I'd trade something for him at 50% retained.

you can have Dvorak for 50% retention for a small return. Mid pick .
I'm not the GM though. I suspect Hughes will use his one retention slot based on whoever brings back best assets.
I also think he wants to resign Evans. If he can't there could be a bidding war for a 28 Y.O elite penalty killing C. In which case maybe he's worth more than a 2nd rounder

 

[HuGo Sham]

Why would he resign though,

1A. He's due for a raise
1B. He'll want his payday contract for his 30s
2. He's an obvious stop gap till the Hab's center prospects are ready
3. When the Hab's are finally playoff ready he will obviously be cast aside.

He's obviously a good depth Center and there will be many teams willing to give him what he wants when he becomes UFhabs have money to resign hhim, and give him the #+ mil

He’s already stated publicly numerous times, he wants to stay here. He’s only 28 and still in that window of being a productive C for a rebuilding team.
Habs have the money to pay him market worth.
It will come down to term, this will be the negotiation imo.
Habs will get rid of Dvorak and there’s no guarantee Dach is a C. Only Owen Beck is probably ready next year. Demidov is not a C and Hage is at least 3 years away.
I think Hughes will try and resign him.
Maybe 4 years at 3.5 mill

 

[Andre Palot]

I personally think the Rangers should pay a 1st for David Savard, and another 1st for Matheson.

I like the way you think.

 

[Oneiro]

Just sell on Evans. Keep acquiring picks, keep trying to get elite guys at the top of the draft.

This idea that Evans is still "young enough" is again vastly underestimating how long the rebuild is going to go on - there are at least three more years before this team is even relevant.