Habs take that you were dead wrong about

[BigDaddyLurch]

I had the same expectations than yours about Drouin. I mean, if a posters is coming here and saying : « I knew, drouin was going to flop ». This posters cannot go on Dach theead and saying : « this guy is a futur top 6 centerman ». At the same age, Drouin showed a lot more than Dach and had good playoffs. After all, Drouin trade been a mistake. But, nobody can coming here and saying. I knew, this 21 yeard old guy will flop…

...not quite the case with Drouin...there were a few posters here who have watched Drouin since his Junior days and knew the player he was; someone who never once tried to advance his game past his natural skill...

 

[Redux91]

I hated the Price pick.
Etc.

I'm proud of you having the courage to bring this up btw

Personally I cant say I hated the pick, but I was BLINDSIDED and I vividly remember slumping off my couch in disbelief

The context here people may forget is we had just signed Theodore (who I hated lol) to a contract extension the week before so the very LAST thing I was expecting was drafting a goalie with the first top 5 pick in my lifetime lol
(I wanted Pouliot or Kopitar)

Turned out Price was pretty amazing lol

 

[sandviper]

Gonna flat out say I was way off with Drouin. I knew about the baggage he had before coming here but I was so hopeful we got a legit star given I liked the highlights I did see while he was a Bolt. I even changed my avatar to Drouin for several months.

Oh well, good thing I'm not a pro scout... That said, unlike our actual pro scouts, my decision didn't create a 5-year headache for the team...

 

[Garbageyuk]

His fall from grace was devastating. His camp and start to the season in his rookie year were the stuff of legends.

Using that term a little generously, don’t you think? Lol

 

[Garbageyuk]

I thought:

Alexander Avtsin would be a top 9 NHLer
Andrei Kostitsyn would be an elite 80 Pt scorer
Sergei Kostitsyn would be a top 6 forward
Alex Galchenyuk would be the elite top C Habs needed
Dalton Thrower would be a beast top 4 D
Jarred Tinordi would find his game as a top 4 D
Jesperi Kotkaniemi would be the elite top C Habs needed
That Bergevin, when he was hired, would be the GM to bring the cup back to Montreal
That Dom Duscharme would be a good NHL coach
That Guy Boucher was the next Habs Coach (when he coached Hamilton)
That Mike Cammalleri would retire a Hab
That Shea Weber would last two more seasons than he did
That Andrei Markov would come back
That Radulov loved Montreal so much he would stay
That Kovalchuk loved Montreal so much he'd come back

etc...

Kudos to you for admitting it, but you should really rein in your expectations regarding young players from now on lol. That’s basically how ~95% of the Habs board is about our prospects though.

 

[Ghetto Sangria]

Using that term a little generously, don’t you think? Lol

Definitely meant it as legendary hype. That start to the year was exciting. Perezhogin was exactly what we were missing, A LWer to play with Koivu - Kovalev, or Ribiero - Ryder. Higgins makes the team as well to compliment the other duo. A young Komisarek ready to establish himself. Guys like Pleks and Kostitsyn waiting in the wings.

Was a good mix of vets and rookies coming in and looking ready... Perezhogin was like a PPG in his first 10 or something.

Then it all fell apart as it always does lol.

 

[Whitesnake]

I'm proud of you having the courage to bring this up btw

Personally I cant say I hated the pick, but I was BLINDSIDED and I vividly remember slumping off my couch in disbelief

The context here people may forget is we had just signed Theodore (who I hated lol) to a contract extension the week before so the very LAST thing I was expecting was drafting a goalie with the first top 5 pick in my lifetime lol
(I wanted Pouliot or Kopitar)

Turned out Price was pretty amazing lol

Never had a problem with admitting mistakes. Reason why I also have no problems admitting my good moves too. But when you have an opinion...chances are you will makes mistakes...and I did.

Me not seeing that Price had in him to be a top end goalie is on me. And only me. Now, what I will have a field talking about are people, with no opinions (not you obviously) laughing about the fact that Brule would have been our pick. Because A LOT of the people who laugh at that ALSO loves to bring the development issue to excuse Trevor. And if that is somewhat a REAL excuse (for some players it was), why isn't it possible that it happened to other teams? People will see how Brule was used and tell me that this guy wasn,t a development catastrophy too? Having said all that...whether Brule or whoever would have had a better development, Price STILL was worth a top 5, and STILL wasn,t worth to be blasted all over. Which I did. Period.

 

[Fandangle]

Players I got super wrong:
Jiri Sekac - That year after the combine I thought we found a dark horse...later noticed he couldn't receive a pass to save his life.
Ron Hainsey - He had that size and smooth skating that had me believing he would be our 1d one day.
Francois Beauchemin - Surprised when they passed on keeping him.
Nikita Scherbak - Weird skater/style but somehow I thought he could make it work.
Martin Reway - Thought he was ahead of lehky early in dev.
Perezhogin - Thought he would become the next Oleg Petrov

Players that I thought would become slightly better:
Sergie Kostitsyn
Val Bure
Marcel Hossa
Jan Bulis
Zak Fucale
Lars Eller

Players I always doubted:
Tinordi
Brook
Lernout
LeBlanc
McCarron
Beaulieu
Drouin

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Oh god the list is so long it's unforgivable.

Kotkaniemi but I guess there's still time. I really dug my heels deep on that one and it's not looking good.

I defended MB quite a bit but it was mostly because this board was a bit loopy with him. I just wanted a sane middle ground. He shot himself in the foot one too many times after actually making good moves but following them up with kaka. I didn't think his contracts were that bad until the last couple years. That Price contract is just garbo. To me the move (non-move) that angered me the most was not re-signing Radulov. I could see some form of logic in lots of his moves but not that one. Beyond stupid playing chicken with him. One of my fave Habs. He was tremendous.

Here's some ones that I won't qualify...too much lol:

-Thought Galchenyuk was gonna be a beast
-Thought PK was borderline generational (though after that rookie season that didn't seem too crazy)
-Pretty big on Hudon, Andrighetto, McCarron. Loved those Vejdemo highlights lolol.

There's gotta be way more

 

[angusyoung]

When that day comes,I'll let you know

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I thought Carey Price scoring a goal was a matter of when.

I'm shocked it still hasn't happened.

I was at a game in Buffalo, it made it to center ice and a player intercepted it. He almost got one then.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Oh god the list is so long it's unforgivable.

Kotkaniemi but I guess there's still time. I really dug my heels deep on that one and it's not looking good.

I defended MB quite a bit but it was mostly because this board was a bit loopy with him. I just wanted a sane middle ground. He shot himself in the foot one too many times after actually making good moves but following them up with kaka. I didn't think his contracts were that bad until the last couple years. That Price contract is just garbo. To me the move (non-move) that angered me the most was not re-signing Radulov. I could see some form of logic in lots of his moves but not that one. Beyond stupid playing chicken with him. One of my fave Habs. He was tremendous.

Here's some ones that I won't qualify...too much lol:

-Thought Galchenyuk was gonna be a beast
-Thought PK was borderline generational (though after that rookie season that didn't seem too crazy)
-Pretty big on Hudon, Andrighetto, McCarron. Loved those Vejdemo highlights lolol.

There's gotta be way more

I wouldn’t count Subban or Galchenyuk as being wrong for you. Coaching and health got in the way of both players. Subban was earmarked from the HOF before his injuries. He was a great player. A shame we traded him and treated him like crap… but that’s a whole other story.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Never had a problem with admitting mistakes. Reason why I also have no problems admitting my good moves too. But when you have an opinion...chances are you will makes mistakes...and I did.

Me not seeing that Price had in him to be a top end goalie is on me. And only me. Now, what I will have a field talking about are people, with no opinions (not you obviously) laughing about the fact that Brule would have been our pick. Because A LOT of the people who laugh at that ALSO loves to bring the development issue to excuse Trevor. And if that is somewhat a REAL excuse (for some players it was), why isn't it possible that it happened to other teams? People will see how Brule was used and tell me that this guy wasn,t a development catastrophy too? Having said all that...whether Brule or whoever would have had a better development, Price STILL was worth a top 5, and STILL wasn,t worth to be blasted all over. Which I did. Period.

Of course it happened with other teams. Nobody would argue otherwise.

But we have the benefit of seeing ‘before and after’ here with the new regime. Before, TT had a pretty good record. After, we fell off a cliff. And I’m pretty sure going forward we’ll be better again and that era will stick out like a sore thumb.

 

[That Habs Fan]

I'm still waiting for Danny Kristo to turn into something, surely he'll recover from the frostbite!!

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Petr Svoboda. When I first saw him at the 1984 draft and during his first few exhibition games, I didn't think he would survive one season in the NHL. I was only wrong by 17 seasons.

 

[Whitesnake]

Of course it happened with other teams. Nobody would argue otherwise.

But we have the benefit of seeing ‘before and after’ here with the new regime. Before, TT had a pretty good record. After, we fell off a cliff. And I’m pretty sure going forward we’ll be better again and that era will stick out like a sore thumb.

We've beaten it to death together, revived it, and beaten it to death again. And then some. You know my take on it. I will always that we could have done better with some players development...but not to the extent in numbers that you and others think. And not at the extent in quality that the same you and other thought.

 

[JuicyHam]

I'm still waiting for Danny Kristo to turn into something, surely he'll recover from the frostbite!!

When I was really young before and after making an account on HF I was always fooled by every one of our top prospects thinking they were great until they weren't. For years I would sit in class thinking and posting about how great these prospects were going to be when they were given the chance to come into their own. So eventually after being burned dozens if not a hundred times I finally realized I needed to be more measured and less reactionary. Kristo was definitely one or those players

 

[Adam Michaels]

I never said it on here, but I remember telling people I know that I didn't feel like the Habs would win a cup with Therrien, but they'd win a cup with MB as the GM. This was at the start when MB was making good moves.

And speaking of Therrien, who I felt they'd never win with him, the team enjoyed it's more consistent success under his watch.

 

[dcyhabs]

I thought Jared Tinordi was going to be a legit top 4 guy. It is actually cool to see that he’s stuck with it and is still in the NHL but he never turned out how the Habs wanted . Wasn’t the same after he got KTFO in thaf fight in the minors

I thought Tinordi would be at least adequate. Sly did everything badly but pushing young guys with potential to fight older AHL goons with none was one of the worst.

I didn’t expect Subban’s body to give out.

I thought the Recchi trade would be good.

I never said it on here, but I remember telling people I know that I didn't feel like the Habs would win a cup with Therrien, but they'd win a cup with MB as the GM. This was at the start when MB was making good moves.

And speaking of Therrien, who I felt they'd never win with him, the team enjoyed it's more consistent success under his watch.

I thought he hired Therrien to tank. Then Therrien played it cool and won. Once MT had his confidence back the team was doomed.

 

[JoelWarlord]

Oh yeah I was definitely wrong on the Drouin pickup too. I didn't necessarily think there was like Johnny Gaudreau upside still there but I was pretty confident he'd settle in as a legitimate 1st line playmaker. My copium reserves only lasted for about a season and a half on Drouin (when he got smoked by Andrew Shaw playing on the same line I was pretty much out) but I was pretty excited to get him at the time.

With that being said I was down on the trade quickly when they let Markov and Radulov walk. The entire reason I liked it was I thought Drouin could add to the top 6 right away and had long-term upside. Once they let Radulov and Markov walk I didn't get the point of trading away a guy who was an obvious long-term fit with Weber.

 

[Milhouse40]

I have a selective memory, I only remember what I was right about......so I never been wrong.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We've beaten it to death together, revived it, and beaten it to death again. And then some. You know my take on it. I will always that we could have done better with some players development...but not to the extent in numbers that you and others think. And not at the extent in quality that the same you and other thought.

All I’m saying is that our development was God awful. And whether other teams had bad development or not doesn’t change this fact.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I never said it on here, but I remember telling people I know that I didn't feel like the Habs would win a cup with Therrien, but they'd win a cup with MB as the GM. This was at the start when MB was making good moves.

And speaking of Therrien, who I felt they'd never win with him, the team enjoyed it's more consistent success under his watch.

...only because he has Price in his Prime...the ONLY reason...

I have a selective memory, I only remember what I was right about......so I never been wrong.

...yeah, my wife hates that about me too...

 

[_habsfan9]

That Andrei Kostitsyn was going to put up 40 goal seasons

The sad thing is that he had all the tools to do so with those hands and that release. Just couldn't work out the rest of his game.

 

[Gravity]

Relatively old take: Habs had lost to the Leafs when down 3-1.

New take: I don't see a universe where Slafkovsky is a better player than Wright.