Habs offer to play in QC

[calder candidate]

regardless of the situation this gift to the kings is criminal waste of taxe payer money, this can’t be swept under the rug I hope there will be a full investigation and they cancel this contract and punish who ever is responsible… gouvernement wouldn’t lose my vote over hard negotiation with unions but they will lose it over wasting it on kings pre seasons game in both case it is our money on the line they need to manage it properly… I’m enraged and find it despicable and I’m a hockey fan, can’t imagine how a no hockey fan feel…

 

[Toene]

regardless of the situation this gift to the kings is criminal waste of taxe payer money, this can’t be swept under the rug I hope there will be a full investigation and they cancel this contract and punish who ever is responsible… gouvernement wouldn’t lose my vote over hard negotiation with unions but they will lose it over wasting it on kings pre seasons game in both case it is our money on the line they need to manage it properly… I’m enraged and find it despicable and I’m a hockey fan, can’t imagine how a no hockey fan feel…

Teachers have lost more than 40% in buying power since the 80s. Why would you support them losing even more? The "raise" is 7% under the inflation.

 

[calder candidate]

Teachers have lost more than 40% in buying power since the 80s. Why would you support them losing even more? The "raise" is 7% under the inflation.

Because it is our money… Everyone lost buying power and teacher make between 53k and 92k(avg income in Qc is close to 52k) +they get a pretty good pension, get significant time off for the summer and holiday, spring break, there like 20 pedago and they get like 10 sick day switch they can schedule, the school day is 7:55 to 3:30…
not saying it is an easy job or that the conditions are all great and they are definitely under appreciated by society. But what we need is more teachers and especially specialists to help kids with learning disabilities, Dyslexia and ADHD…
Give 200k a to a teacher with 26 kids bouncing off the walls with entitled parents no sure your going to see any improvements. I have plenty of freinds that are teachers (30+) and I ‘m of the school board, I’m sympathetic to there cause but I also see the struggle for a lot of parents that don’t have these salaries, benefits, conditions or job security, gouvernement should be representing all of them in this negotiation.
That why I think that this 7M$ is a lot worst management of public funds and I hope it get investigated because it is criminally bad management of public funds…

 

[Team_Spirit]

Please help me figure out how this cost 5 to 7 millions!!

100 high end hotel rooms at 1k per night x 5 days is 500k

1k day/person for luxury restaurants or private chefs (500k)

500k for the private planes, maybe 1M?

500k for the arena/staff

500k misc/others

The math, it dosen't seem to check out! SeanFarrell.jpg

 

[Toene]

Because it is our money… Everyone lost buying power and teacher make between 53k and 92k(avg income in Qc is close to 52k) +they get a pretty good pension, get significant time off for the summer and holiday, spring break, there like 20 pedago and they get like 10 sick day switch they can schedule, the school day is 7:55 to 3:30…
not saying it is an easy job or that the conditions are all great and they are definitely under appreciated by society. But what we need is more teachers and especially specialists to help kids with learning disabilities, Dyslexia and ADHD…
Give 200k a to a teacher with 26 kids bouncing off the walls with entitled parents no sure your going to see any improvements. I have plenty of freinds that are teachers (30+) and I ‘m of the school board, I’m sympathetic to there cause but I also see the struggle for a lot of parents that don’t have these salaries, benefits, conditions or job security, gouvernement should be representing all of them in this negotiation.
That why I think that this 7M$ is a lot worst management of public funds and I hope it get investigated because it is criminally bad management of public funds…

Salary is only one of the many demands from the public sector.

I agree that teachers have good conditions, but it takes time to get to the 92k. It's at least 15-18 years. The problem we have is the retention of young teachers. Im gonna say it in french because Im not sure how to say it in english :
les enseignant(e)s débutent leur carrière dans la précarité. Ils doivent souvent prendre plusieurs tâches au lieu d'une seule, parfois dans plusieurs écoles différentes. Plus de planif, plus de déplacements, pas toujours du temps plein. Des salaires médiocres en commençant après un bac de 4(!) ans.

Btw, raising salaries also mean that teaching aids, orthopédagogues, psycho-eds are getting more and the job is more appealing, so more will study in these fields and join the workforce

We need more people in every public job, but the jobs are less appealing than a lot of the private sector's.

 

[OnTheRun]

Please help me figure out how this cost 5 to 7 millions!!

100 high end hotel rooms at 1k per night x 5 days is 500k

1k day/person for luxury restaurants or private chefs (500k)

500k for the private planes, maybe 1M?

500k for the arena/staff

500k misc/others

The math, it dosen't seem to check out! SeanFarrell.jpg

I had issue with the math as well, because how the f*** a week of training camp could cost 10M right?
Turn out they are giving 5M to the Kings as compensation for income lost, the Cats and the Brooins also get cash compensations.

So this is where the bulk of the money is going into... Bankrolling foreign pro sport franchises...

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Teachers have lost more than 40% in buying power since the 80s. Why would you support them losing even more? The "raise" is 7% under the inflation.

53 to 92 k is ridiculous money. What unions should be negotiating is booting kids out of school that are disruptions because there worthless parents don't teach them anything.

 

[calder candidate]

Salary is only one of the many demands from the public sector.

I agree that teachers have good conditions, but it takes time to get to the 92k. It's at least 15-18 years. The problem we have is the retention of young teachers. Im gonna say it in french because Im not sure how to say it in english :
les enseignant(e)s débutent leur carrière dans la précarité. Ils doivent souvent prendre plusieurs tâches au lieu d'une seule, parfois dans plusieurs écoles différentes. Plus de planif, plus de déplacements, pas toujours du temps plein. Des salaires médiocres en commençant après un bac de 4(!) ans.

Btw, raising salaries also mean that teaching aids, orthopédagogues, psycho-eds are getting more and the job is more appealing, so more will study in these fields and join the workforce

We need more people in every public job, but the jobs are less appealing than a lot of the private sector's.

Lot of people don’t get to start at 52k and even if they do they don’t necessarily have the conditions or benefits… and most people starting out will have to do more work for less… if we paid more there might be more people but the school doesn’t have more money even if there is 2 psycho-ed available there only money to hire one part time it doesn’t help the kids and isn’t better for teachers… my initial point was that gouvernement negotiations with union is them trying to be responsible with the public fund (can’t really blame them for that even if we want to prioritize education) giving money to the king is a boarder criminal act and complete waste of public funds( there should definitely be a political repercussions )…

 

[Toene]

53 to 92 k is ridiculous money. What unions should be negotiating is booting kids out of school that are disruptions because there worthless parents don't teach them anything.

how is it ridiculous? What do you think a teacher should be paid?

 

[Guiness time]

I find it ridiculous that the government in the past used inflation to dictate raise increases, as inflation was so low, it came out to their advantage. Now that inflation is high, oh no, inflation can't be used, not realistic. Yet they get raises way above that, and of course get all sorts of perks.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

53 to 92 k is ridiculous money. What unions should be negotiating is booting kids out of school that are disruptions because there worthless parents don't teach them anything.

Not even enough for a family to live on in 2023 lmao

 

[overlords]

Not even enough for a family to live on in 2023 lmao

- Be a public sector worker​

- vote for economic and cultural suicide because you're dumb, it's trendy, and you know your boss will just raise taxes to bail you out if/when shit hits the fan​

- hold the taxpayer hostage by refusing to do your job​

- get paid more than you're worth​

- wash, rinse, repeat.​

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Maybe if these strikes go really well, each teacher can get themselves $75 000 per in transgender surgery coverage like the PSAC'ers did. ​

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(and paying for foreign owned pro teams to come play here is stupid, too)​