Post-Game Talk: Habs lose to Toronto

[The Real Timo]

They keep saying Habs are the seond youngest team this season. Who is the youngest?

 

[Runner77]

 

[salbutera]

Something triggered a "f*** This" effect coming out of the pre-season.
I can only speculate but the Greig-Dach Xhekaj affair could be the catalyst.
The players had Arber's back 100% after the fact the coach did not.
We've played one complete game all season against the Ottawa Senators.
Just a coincidence?

I think young players were very excited w Laine acquisition and his injury was an unexpected knee to the balls

 

[austin316]

I think young players were very excited w Laine acquisition and his injury was an unexpected knee to the balls

If they fold because of that then they are even weaker mentally than I thought.

 

[Rapala]

I think young players were very excited w Laine acquisition and his injury was an unexpected knee to the balls

That didn't help for sure particularly with the "in the mix" optimism that was reigning beforehand.

 

[MasterD]

I won’t be surprised to see Marty get canned.

Just don’t know what other coaches are out there right now .

Galland.

 

[Chili]

They keep saying Habs are the seond youngest team this season. Who is the youngest?

Buffalo, they were the youngest last year too even with Erik Johnson and Kyle Okposo.

 

[Ajhccwrs]

In the mix, was referring to 1st overall selection right??? Right??

 

[MarkovsKnee]

They keep saying Habs are the seond youngest team this season. Who is the youngest?

Buffalo.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Galland.

No, no, no way. He's awful and loves his vets even more than MSL. Rangers blame him for Lafreniere's late development. He improved after Gallant left. He's old school.

 

[teamfirst]

Meh... A lot of exaggerated criticism as well.

Leafs are a contender. We aren't. For ~1/2 the game (3rd + large parts of the 1st) we were right there despite playing mediocre.

Proving my point, the bolded is why ''rough night'' was an understament

 

[The Real Timo]

Galland.

I wouldn't hire him as head coach... as an assistant he'd be ok. I think.

 

[Legend123]

All these younger players refusing to show up and put an effort is kind of mind boggling. The difference between this season and last is insane.

Maybe no one respects st Louis' accountability

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

They keep saying Habs are the seond youngest team this season. Who is the youngest?

We're the youngest if you substract Price

 

[Goldenhands]

My God this year has been ass. WTF is going on? What happened?

The center line is just way too weak. Last year we had Monahan till the TDL and we were in the games most nights. This year they gambled Dach would do the job as the 2nd line center and he obviously cant, he is struggling big time, even on the wing.

A center line made of Suzuki, Evans, Dvorak and Condotta just cant succeed, they all are in the wrong chair, Suzuki is a 2nd line center on a good team, Evans is a fourth line center lacking size, Dvorak is an AHLer, so is Condotta. People just cant expect better results unless Dach comes out of nowhere and turn the switch on, what I dont think will happen at this point.

This team needs another high pick anyway, preferably a top 2 or top 3 in the next draft, Im resigned to the fact we are still in the middle of the process and that next year might be tough as well, even with Demidov on the team... 2026-2027 season is where I expect this young team to reach the next level.

 

[MasterD]

No, no, no way. He's awful and loves his vets even more than MSL. Rangers blame him for Lafreniere's late development. He improved after Gallant left. He's old school.

Question was who's available.

I wouldn't hire him as head coach... as an assistant he'd be ok. I think.

He wouldn't want to be assistant. But I agree. MSL needs a guy like him or Martin to help

I'm assuming Hughes is done with the Dach/Newhook type trades. We need vets that are good and reliable.

Monahan-type

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

Monahan-type

but this org obviously can't afford a 5x5M vet that everyone adores

 

[Runner77]

The center line is just way too weak. Last year we had Monahan till the TDL and we were in the games most nights. This year they gambled Dach would do the job as the 2nd line center and he obviously cant, he is struggling big time, even on the wing.

A center line made of Suzuki, Evans, Dvorak and Condotta just cant succeed, they all are in the wrong chair, Suzuki is a 2nd line center on a good team, Evans is a fourth line center lacking size, Dvorak is an AHLer, so is Condotta. People just cant expect better results unless Dach comes out of nowhere and turn the switch on, what I dont think will happen at this point.

That 2023 draft was a key setback. Hughes reportedly tried every which way in order to nab one of the top 4 picks, which resulted in 4 Cs getting drafted.

Now, back to the drawing board. Habs need to draft and overdraft centers (assuming several fall to them as BPAs) until they have so many to choose from that the next best of them end up as wingers with top 6 ability.

Early returns on Hage look good but more is needed.

Thirty years of ineptitude at the center position needs to end.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

but this org obviously can't afford a 5x5M vet that everyone adores

And has been a glass body. Can't be adding 5 mil more dead cap if he gets hurt. Already got Anderson for years and Dvorak and Armia for this year.

That 2023 draft was a key setback. Hughes reportedly tried every which way in order to to nab one of the top 4 picks, which resulted in 4 Cs getting drafted.

Now, back to the drawing board. Habs need to draft and overdraft centers (assuming several fall to them as BPAs) until they have so many to choose from that the next best of them end up as wingers with top 6 ability.

Early returns on Hage look good but more is needed.

Thirty years of ineptitude at the center position needs to end.

They have Suzuki, Hage, Beck, Kapanen and Evans. Another scoring line centre would solidify things though.

 

[Goldenhands]

That 2023 draft was a key setback. Hughes reportedly tried every which way in order to to nab one of the top 4 picks, which resulted in 4 Cs getting drafted.

Now, back to the drawing board. Habs need to draft and overdraft centers (assuming several fall to them as BPAs) until they have so many to choose from that the next best of them end up as wingers with top 6 ability.

Early returns on Hage look good but more is needed.

Thirty years of ineptitude at the center position needs to end.

I wish we were in a position to draft Leo Carlsson, but we werent, Fantilli would have been nice too, but I had reservations regarding his IQ, as for Smith, I had Reinbacher over him on my list and Im still not a big fan, his game away from the puck still needs alot of work, he needs to get alot stronger and needs to figure out the pro game. Reinbacher was a good pick at 5 and we needed a top pair RD as well. We got him, he just needs to come back, stay healthy and keep progressing. Smith is a weak 6 ft. center who might end up on the wing, I dont think we missed much there.

 

[HuGo Sham]

That 2023 draft was a key setback. Hughes reportedly tried every which way in order to to nab one of the top 4 picks, which resulted in 4 Cs getting drafted.

Now, back to the drawing board. Habs need to draft and overdraft centers (assuming several fall to them as BPAs) until they have so many to choose from that the next best of them end up as wingers with top 6 ability.

Early returns on Hage look good but more is needed.

Thirty years of ineptitude at the center position needs to end.

agreed. Development is also not linear. They need to keep adding young talent in the next two drafts - including another high end C to insulate them from Dach failing @ centre.
We all hate patience, but it's necessary. Very young team with several vets who are on their way out. St Louis isn't getting fired- certainly not in-season.
He does need a vet-tactician to help him out though

 

[VT]

Honestly, your second line center is Evans and Dach has still psychical problems after knee injury, Toronto has Marner and Nylander on wings (and Marner is great in the regular season especially, in special teams), so what do you wait? Also, Toronto scored only one goal in 5:5, thanks Dvorak back. If you look stats, your problem was scoring. But not play 5v5.

But as Slovak, Slafkovský disappointed me. I don't think he's that bad because of the tactics of the game, he just doesn't seem to have the spark. This is not Juraj I know.

 

[Miller Time]

Certainly doesn't look like they're competing.

Perhaps you tuned out after the 2nd

Proving my point, the bolded is why ''rough night'' was an understament

Nah.

 

[Rapala]

That 2023 draft was a key setback. Hughes reportedly tried every which way in order to nab one of the top 4 picks, which resulted in 4 Cs getting drafted.

Now, back to the drawing board. Habs need to draft and overdraft centers (assuming several fall to them as BPAs) until they have so many to choose from that the next best of them end up as wingers with top 6 ability.

Early returns on Hage look good but more is needed.

Thirty years of ineptitude at the center position needs to end.

Yeah but we were able to win or tie a handful of games leading up to that draft.
Inexperienced tankers compared to the experts.

 

[Habby4Life]

Missed the post game with Bombay.

What unique tidbits of incredible insight did the Habs super-coach have tonight?

Hire an amateur pee wee coach, get amateur pee wee results, go figure.