Post-Game Talk: Habs lose to the Flames

[MilesNewton]

I don't think that has anything to do with talented. Every single one of the players are talented ((they are in the NHL dude). The problem though is DEFINITELY execution. I also noticed how the passes are either too quick or too slow. And some times the play is so sofffff. Like someone along the boards who does a cream puff attempt of pushing the puck out of the zone and it ends straight on a Flame's stick. SO many plays like this.

Execution is crucially missing. You can't tell me we lack talent, I just don't believe it.

I agree, trouble with the transition, its either a blender of crazy play or they look great? Need a few more vets in the locker room to calm the youngsters down. Matheson loves to go coast to coast and not sure what he is doing half the time. Defense seems to be out of position and there appears to be a lack of mojo or a communication issue. Caufield and Suzuki need some of the vets around. One thing Savard and Wideman were respected for was their leadership abilities in the locker room.

Gotta figure out a way to get the rest of the team scoring. Not going to win many games with 2 or 3 guys doing all the scoring. Not enough offence coming from the back end either besides Matheson. And yes, I know others have scored, but 1 goal a piece with few assists isn’t going to cut it. You need a couple guys back there with Matheson like production.


The RHP experiment has to come to a close at some point, doesn’t it? I love the guy, but he’s got to show some offence. He’s been up and down the lineup with nothing to show.

I think they like his speed and effort but boy is he streaky, sophomore slump

 

[Team_Spirit]

People think this team can win with 20M + in dead cap and get all upset after a 35+ shots 2-1 loss.

Carry on

 

[bcv]

Anderson and Gally on the ice in the final minute.

This loss is on MSL.

Habs management : Priority is player development, we will care about wins a few years down the road

MSL : Heavily relies on vets

 

[morhilane]

Gotta figure out a way to get the rest of the team scoring. Not going to win many games with 2 or 3 guys doing all the scoring. Not enough offence coming from the back end either besides Matheson. And yes, I know others have scored, but 1 goal a piece with few assists isn’t going to cut it. You need a couple guys back there with Matheson like production.


The RHP experiment has to come to a close at some point, doesn’t it? I love the guy, but he’s got to show some offence. He’s been up and down the lineup with nothing to show.

The Habs haven't scored more than 3 goals in regulation since the first game of the year against the Leafs.

 

[schwang26]

The Habs haven't scored more than 3 goals in regulation since the first game of the year against the Leafs.

So many “offensive minded” players not scoring. At least they’re getting chances. Anderson hasn’t missed the net every time in his defence. Caulfield I cannot explain. He and Suzuki were like money, now it’s like they’re brand new line mates

 

[WeThreeKings]

So many “offensive minded” players not scoring. At least they’re getting chances. Anderson hasn’t missed the net every time in his defence. Caulfield I cannot explain. He and Suzuki were like money, now it’s like they’re brand new line mates

Hard to play 4 on 5.. they just don't have someone to complement them.

 

[GHJimmy]

He's been having a surprising good season. After one bad game, you come bashing him? Guessing you were waiting for the right moment. lol

I meant pure embarrassment of the way Gallagher acts and gets angry, explodes for no reason, giving himself a terrible look at the end of each scrums he gets himself into.. still your point is useless.

 

[morhilane]

So many “offensive minded” players not scoring. At least they’re getting chances. Anderson hasn’t missed the net every time in his defence. Caulfield I cannot explain. He and Suzuki were like money, now it’s like they’re brand new line mates

Anderson's "shooting percentage on unblocked shots above expected" is -8.1%. He's literally shooting negatively in term of advanced stats.

And based on his career sh%, he should have about 4 goals right now.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

It was slightly better last year, 8-7-1 (5RW tho)

Weaker schedule in the first 20-30 games last year.

We should trade Moneyhands before he gets injured as we are not gonna be in the playoff race in two months and with every passing game, we risk him getting injured, again.

 

[Rapala]

Justin Barron looks more and more like a terrific top 4 Dman. Any more doubters?

Amongst other things he's doing well it's like he suddenly realized he has size and can use it.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

If you thought that was frustrating, imagine how the Flames' fans feel. A team in disarray and probably being sold and re-located.

They just finalized the agreement with the city to replace the Saddledome like just a few weeks ago and the agreement has a 35 years no-relocation clause. They're not going anywhere. Same for Edmonton.

 

[Tyson]

Amongst other things he's doing well it's like he suddenly realized he has size and can use it.

He has been using the body a bit more, all part of learning to use his attributes.

I like the confidence he plays with.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The defense will take time but it will be a real strength of the team going forward.

Guhle, Barron, Reinbacher and Xhekaj.. with Hutson coming.

 

[Tyson]

The defense will take time but it will be a real strength of the team going forward.

Guhle, Barron, Reinbacher and Xhekaj.. with Hutson coming.

Xhekaj it appears is suffering from the Sophmore Slump. I know he is very raw so he gets a pass.

 

[Rapala]

Hard to play 4 on 5.. they just don't have someone to complement them.

Yeah we shouldn't be comparing them to how they performed with Kirby Dach playing on the right wing. The only player we have who is close to that skill level is Monahan and he's busy elsewhere.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Xhekaj it appears is suffering from the Sophmore Slump. I know he is very raw so he gets a pass.

I expected more sophomore slumps on defense.. Guhle is just too f***ing good.

Yeah we shouldn't be comparing them to how they performed with Kirby Dach playing on the right wing. The only player we have who is lose to that skill level is Monahan and he's busy elsewhere.

Yeah although they should probably make that move.

I'd be doing something like:

Slafkovsky-Suzuki-Caufield
Newhook-Monahan-Pearson
Anderson-Dvorak-Gallagher

 

[Tyson]

I expected more sophomore slumps on defense.. Guhle is just too f***ing good.



Yeah although they should probably make that move.

I'd be doing something like:

Slafkovsky-Suzuki-Caufield
Newhook-Monahan-Pearson
Anderson-Dvorak-Gallagher

I agree

 

[Mrb1p]

I meant pure embarrassment of the way Gallagher acts and gets angry, explodes for no reason, giving himself a terrible look at the end of each scrums he gets himself into.. still your point is useless.

I feel the same thing. He's very cringe and clearly has that little man syndrome. Also when he explodes at refs and throws things on its way to the locker room. Big lame energy.

 

[Mrb1p]

Yeah we shouldn't be comparing them to how they performed with Kirby Dach playing on the right wing. The only player we have who is close to that skill level is Monahan and he's busy elsewhere.

Theres no excuses to not have Monahan on the first line now with Dvorak back.

Cole-Nick-Sean
Slaf-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP-Newhook-Anderson
Ylonen-Evans-Pearson

Speed on all lines, size on all lines, shooting/playmaker bias is even.

Also Ive noticed that Suzuki is always either paired with Xhekaj or Matheson and never with Guhle and that Guhle always gets Evans or the Monahan line. This needs to be fixed, use your best players together, the spreading out is killing the team.

All these players are good enough to "survive" out there, but very few of them are good enough to thrive. Id rather have one and a half line that thrives than 4 that are surviving. The ES play has been pathetic.

 

[Rapala]

Theres no excuses to not have Monahan on the first line now with Dvorak back.

Cole-Nick-Sean
Slaf-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP-Newhook-Anderson
Ylonen-Evans-Pearson

Speed on all lines, size on all lines, shooting/playmaker bias is even.

Also Ive noticed that Suzuki is always either paired with Xhekaj or Matheson and never with Guhle and that Guhle always gets Evans or the Monahan line. This needs to be fixed, use your best players together, the spreading out is killing the team.

All these players are good enough to "survive" out there, but very few of them are good enough to thrive. Id rather have one and a half line that thrives than 4 that are surviving. The ES play has been pathetic.

Indeed the preferable D pairings are a pet peeve of mine and has been for years going back to PK Subban.
The lack of itelligence of not utilizing your best unit of 5 together is head scratching. particularly when we are down a goal.
It gets so bad at times you can go ahead and flip channels until the decent pairing finds the ice again because you know nothing will be happening at the proper end of the rink.

 

[schwang26]

Weaker schedule in the first 20-30 games last year.

We should trade Moneyhands before he gets injured as we are not gonna be in the playoff race in two months and with every passing game, we risk him getting injured, again.

You are correct. I said the same in the past about Edmunson and way back to Desharnais. I remember rumours of Davey getting dealt and literally just before the deadline, he’s injured.
Love Monahan but I don’t see him resigning here.

 

[Rapala]

He has been using the body a bit more, all part of learning to use his attributes.

I like the confidence he plays with.

He had a very strong game against Boston perhaps his best as a Hab. Not putting up any points though. He's not stupid and will continue to improve IMO.
I am happy when he owns his space and doesn't chase. Last night his reflex was to go after Kadri when his job was to box out Zary.

 

[zx81]

I don't think that has anything to do with talented. Every single one of the players are talented ((they are in the NHL dude). The problem though is DEFINITELY execution. I also noticed how the passes are either too quick or too slow. And some times the play is so sofffff. Like someone along the boards who does a cream puff attempt of pushing the puck out of the zone and it ends straight on a Flame's stick. SO many plays like this.

Execution is crucially missing. You can't tell me we lack talent, I just don't believe it.

Talent is the ability to execute with consistency. If you have a constant execution problem it's because you are not talented enough.

 

[OldCraig71]

Anderson and Gally on the ice in the final minute.

This loss is on MSL.

Caufield missed plenty of chances before it ever got to that point and Gallagher, Anderson, and Evans all missed glorious scoring chances as well. How many teams ever score with the goalie pulled? Does it work 10-20 percent of the time league-wide? We had our chances but the puck didn't go in for us, that's all, and it isn't a failure by MSL.

 

[Apoplectic Habs Fan]

Gotta figure out a way to get the rest of the team scoring. Not going to win many games with 2 or 3 guys doing all the scoring. Not enough offence coming from the back end either besides Matheson. And yes, I know others have scored, but 1 goal a piece with few assists isn’t going to cut it. You need a couple guys back there with Matheson like production.


The RHP experiment has to come to a close at some point, doesn’t it? I love the guy, but he’s got to show some offence. He’s been up and down the lineup with nothing to show.

He is looking more like this years Rem Pitlick.

Went unsustainable stretch when nothing to play for then cant follow it up the next yr.

The benefit he has is he is more useful on a fourth line and Pk then Pitstick was which should keep him in the NHL if he cant get some scoring going