Post-Game Talk: Habs lose to the Felines from Florida

Kobe Armstrong

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Golden Knights made major swings. The LA Kings made major swings. The Panthers made major swings. These three teams weren’t patient, they were proactive. They made mistakes but their gambles have paid off generally.

The big swings these teams made would never be initially supported by the Habs or Habs fans. We have a far too conservative (cowardly) attitude to competition and tankophiles don’t help.

If they’re injured, they’re injured. If they’re playing and playing poorly, Habs fans will take it upon themselves to insulate the players by speculating about mysterious, unannounced injuries. It’s pa-the-tic.

We can’t comment any critique Kent Hughes because it’s “too early”.

We can’t comment any critique of MSL because “we’re not focussed on winning”

We can’t comment any critique of any of the player in case they have a mysterious, unannounced injury.

So basically we cannot comment any criticism of any Habs figure at all. That’s how it is now.
What's funny to me is how the posters who said the most awful and hateful things about Bergevin are now bending over backwards to defend every move Hughes makes.

They bitched and moaned every day here for 5 years because they wanted to lose more, they didn't want to beat Toronto in the playoffs, they wanted that high teens draft pick, they didn't want to reward Bergevin's mistakes, etc.

Now, if I criticize Hughes I've gone off the deep end and I'm toxic and I've lost my mind. I try to evaluate every move fairly, there are moves Hughes and MSL have made that I like and many that I don't.

Such low self-awareness when the people who threw tantrums for years over management can't handle anything less than 100% faithfulness to the new regime.
 

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What's funny to me is how the posters who said the most awful and hateful things about Bergevin are now bending over backwards to defend every move Hughes makes.

They bitched and moaned every day here for 5 years because they wanted to lose more, they didn't want to beat Toronto in the playoffs, they wanted that high teens draft pick, they didn't want to reward Bergevin's mistakes, etc.

Now, if I criticize Hughes I've gone off the deep end and I'm toxic and I've lost my mind. I try to evaluate every move fairly, there are moves Hughes and MSL have made that I like and many that I don't.

Such low self-awareness when the people who threw tantrums for years over management can't handle anything less than 100% faithfulness to the new regime.
I guess tankophiles want to stick through with the tank and rebuild — which is fair — but it seems there is no way to convince anybody that there are various possible permutations after every decision made and not all of them are de facto good simply because they’re made under the auspices of an exceedingly vague and often contradictory “rebuild” policy.

I don’t think it’s a problem that some people have decided to support the new management with fervour. Good for them. They’re Habs fans and want what is best for the Habs. But the various degrees of excuse-making in the absence of results OR performance is getting farcical at this point.

Ex 1) The AHL Orcs who’ll specifically beeline to injure skilled youngsters… never in my life have I heard of such a notion but it was taken as a stone cold fact in order to justify the hardly controversial statement that a struggling teenage player on an ELC should be sent to the AHL to thrive.

Ex 2) [Underperforming player] must be playing injured. Why default to this? Is this normal across the league? I’ve never heard NFL fans suggest an underperforming player is carrying an unannounced, secret injury. Nor NBA. Nor European Football. What’s the story here that we have to defer to secret injury and can’t just accept a weak roster is constituted of players who underperform??
 

DAChampion

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What's funny to me is how the posters who said the most awful and hateful things about Bergevin are now bending over backwards to defend every move Hughes makes.

So far Hughes is better than Bergevin.

The trades of Dach, Newhook, Matheson, Toffoli, and Monahan are not trades that Bergevin would have done. Notice also that those five trades are coherent in that they have the same goal.
 

DAChampion

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I like him more too, but MB got us to a cup finals and that earned him a lot of good will in my book, most of which he burned by drafting Mailloux

MB did get a cup finals so that's something, and it's largely due to his coherence in acquiring Chiarot, Edmundson, Perry, etc, that's something.

What's wrong with drafting Mailloux?
 

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