Proposal: Habs - Leafs

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Petry would be perfect for Rielly but no chance we move Kapanen for him.

Habs fan and I see it from your perspective. I wouldn't trade Kapanen either. You need his speed and youth as part of the core.

You may or may not like this return but this is what I would engage in if the Habs were moving Petry. I'm after futures and I would consider retaining on Petry to help out your cap hell starting next year. We have to remember Petry is not a pending UFA. He has 3 years in term left! Think about what he is worth as a pending UFA and multiply that by 3

- Petry
for
- Sandin
- 2019 1st
- 2020 2nd
- Horton's uninsured contract

If you can't swallow a futures return, then no sense talking or trying to force a deal. Habs are unlikely to trade Petry anyways. We are not desperate to trade him
 

Baksfamous112

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Kapanen started the season with 10 pts in his first 11 games and has had 8 pts in his last 15 games. Hot start, cooled off. That’s a ~45 pts season average over his last 15 games.

0 interest from the Habs but I’m sure other teams would line up to pick him up
 

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Habs: Lehkonen & 2nd

Toronto: Kapanen, 2019 First

Just that seem fair... so why Habs give Petry AND retain 1M$

Sorry but Petry would give a lot for Habs, and Habs will never retain a part of his contract.

I would consider retaining part of Petry's contract if the return was right. The focus here is to address each others team needs. Both sides need to give to get.
 

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Kapanen started the season with 10 pts in his first 11 games and has had 8 pts in his last 15 games. Hot start, cooled off. That’s a ~45 pts season average over his last 15 games.

0 interest from the Habs but I’m sure other teams would line up to pick him up

I value Kapanen but the Leafs can keep him. Habs don't need him and it forces roster issues for us up front.
 

Baksfamous112

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Habs fan and I see it from your perspective. I wouldn't trade Kapanen either. You need his speed and youth as part of the core.

You may or may not like this return but this is what I would engage in if the Habs were moving Petry. I'm after futures and I would consider retaining on Petry to help out your cap hell starting next year. We have to remember Petry is not a pending UFA. He has 3 years in term left! Think about what he is worth as a pending UFA and multiply that by 3

- Petry
for
- Sandin
- 2019 1st
- 2020 2nd
- Horton's uninsured contract

If you can't swallow a futures return, then no sense talking or trying to force a deal. Habs are unlikely to trade Petry anyways. We are not desperate to trade him

Sandin + + is the only offer I’m really interested in from Toronto. Others are either too valuable (Marner, Matthews, Tavares) or simply of no interest
 

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mammothCacti

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Habs: Lehkonen & 2nd

Toronto: Kapanen, 2019 First

Just that seem fair... so why Habs give Petry AND retain 1M$

Sorry but Petry would give a lot for Habs, and Habs will never retain a part of his contract.

Kapanen almost has as many goals as Lehkonen has points and you value them as us adding a 1st. How delusional are you?
 

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Multi-player swap.

Habs: Petry (1 million retained), Lehkonen & 2nd

Toronto: Kapanen, 2019 First

Toronto adds solid top 4 LHD on a good contract + underperforming youngster with potential + 2nd

Habs add young winger who could flourish with JK + late 1st to further bolster prospect pool depth

This is hilariously slanted in favour of the Maple Leafs.

There is zero reason to retain on Jeff Petry.

There is zero reason to trade Lehkonen who is a young solid two way winger.

There is zero reason for the Canadiens to give up a 2nd round draft pick.

This is just really, really bad.
 

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I would consider retaining part of Petry's contract if the return was right. The focus here is to address each others team needs. Both sides need to give to get.
Apparently, Toronto doesn't need to give to get. They have the BEST prospects, the BEST players, the BEST of everything. And they get free UFA superstars too! If you want to trade with them, make sure you know that whoever you want from their team is the BEST at something and is just too valuable to the Leafs. Then add, and add, and add some more, because Nylander's going to fleece them real soon.
 

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Sandin + + is the only offer I’m really interested in from Toronto. Others are either too valuable (Marner, Matthews, Tavares) or simply of no interest

Lots of different opinions from Habs fans but if I'm trading Petry, the return package before this year's deadline is ...

- Grade A prospect on LD
- 2019 1st
- Future 2nd

It's hilarious to think the Habs will trade Petry as a pending UFA value when he has 3 years in term left. And it's very likely that Bergevin ask for more. Petry has 45 pts in 68 games dating back to Jan of 2017 which ranks 19 in defenseman production during that span. He is a very good top 4D that is reliable and has great overall game. Coaches love this type of player on D. Big mobile body with offensive abilty and moves the puck well.
 

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Apparently, Toronto doesn't need to give to get. They have the BEST prospects, the BEST players, the BEST of everything. And they get free UFA superstars too! If you want to trade with them, make sure you know that whoever you want from their team is the BEST at something and is just too valuable to the Leafs. Then add, and add, and add some more, because Nylander's going to fleece them real soon.

- Liljegren has already won a future Norris.
- Nylander is not worth any more than $6M in AAV but when it comes to trade value, he is worth $8M+ :sarcasm:
 

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Awwww all those years of making fun of the Kapanen + 1st package, now it's attractive.

If Kapanen + conditional first = Kessel then I'll pass on Petry. Not really coveting a Oilers reject blueliner whose ability can be summed up as having an outlet pass and shooting right, keep him Habs.
:laugh:

How do I get to this dream world you're living in?

Have you actually ever watched Petry play in Montreal, sounds like you have't seen him since 2015.
 

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Kapanen almost has as many goals as Lehkonen has points and you value them as us adding a 1st. How delusional are you?

Kapenen was terrible until he started playing with Superstar Center.
I like Kapenen mostly for of his amazing acceleration.

please, watch Lehkonen plays before you talk. He never commits mistake and is extremely versatile and will be a guarantee top 6.
 

mammothCacti

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Kapenen was terrible until he started playing with Superstar Center.
I like Kapenen mostly for of his amazing acceleration.

please, watch Lehkonen plays before you talk. He never commits mistake and is extremely versatile and will be a guarantee top 6.

And now I know you don't watch the Leafs because Kapanen was easily a casualty of playing on the 4th line with guys like Freddy Gauthier and Matt Martin.

So uh, maybe you shouldn't talk either until you know what your saying.

Frankly, I got the counting stats on my side this season.
 
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Habs Halifax

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This is hilariously slanted in favour of the Maple Leafs.

There is zero reason to retain on Jeff Petry.

There is zero reason to trade Lehkonen who is a young solid two way winger.

There is zero reason for the Canadiens to give up a 2nd round draft pick.

This is just really, really bad.

It's a deal that don't factor in team needs from both sides. It's a one sided focus and ignores the Habs needs.
 
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connormcmuffin

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:laugh:

How do I get to this dream world you're living in?

Have you actually ever watched Petry play in Montreal, sounds like you have't seen him since 2015.
I watch Leafs games, highlights and playoff games so I've basically never seen Petry play.

My dream world is being a Leafs fan in 2018, it's f***ing great
 

connormcmuffin

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What the hell does that have to do with anything??

Also, that "Oilers reject blueliner" was actually traded because there was a 0% chance he would stay in Edmonton. I guess the other Oilers reject, Justin Schultz is also worth nothing, right? Keep your garbage.
Should I dig up the thread of the Petry trade on HF where everyone calls Petry garbage?

Leafs have garbage? How do standing work? Please explain.
 

TakeTheBody

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I'm a Leafs fan. No. The curse of Ken Dryden and John Ferguson Jr. I want nothing to do with any Habs. Past. Present. Future.
 

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Should I dig up the thread of the Petry trade on HF where everyone calls Petry garbage?

Leafs have garbage? How do standing work? Please explain.
Petry is the furthest thing away from being garbage. He would be your number 2 defenseman by a country mile. He's a top-pairing defenseman in at least 1/2 the teams in the NHL today. The proposal is garbage, plain and simple.
 

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At least I hope the Leafs provide the lube with how hard they're going to be f***ing the Habs in this trade.

Abysmal proposal.
 

connormcmuffin

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Petry is the furthest thing away from being garbage. He would be your number 2 defenseman by a country mile. He's a top-pairing defenseman in at least 1/2 the teams in the NHL today. The proposal is garbage, plain and simple.
Really does he log more 5 on 5 mintues than Gardiner? How do his numbers fancy and otherwise match up to Gardiner?

Oh that's right Jake crushes him by the facts but you have narratives from talking heads to pretend Petry > Gardiner.

I wouldn't trade Dermott for Petry
 

ER89

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one of the worse proposal Ive seen the leafs trying to do.
Look we know you want Petry, the price will be higher than what you want to pay.

Petry+2nd for Nylander would be my counter offer. Or Dermott/Sandin+kapanen for Petry.

Petry is a top 15 D in the league.
Canadiens' Jeff Petry: Among top-10 defensemen in scoring
Definitive ranking of NHL’s top 20 defencemen over three seasons - Sportsnet.ca
Look, I know weed is legal now, but buddy, take a break. Petry isn't close to william's value EVEN WITH the holdout.
 

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