HF Habs: Habs is the shortest team in the NHL

TheTechNoir

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Speed over size, that's why the Avs won the cup.
Actually neither win cups, and this type of extreme over-simplification thinking is what causes questionable GMs to destroy teams in over-reactions to playoff losses. Prime example: The reason Colorado lost vs Vegas last year, compared to why they won the cup this year, absolutely is not a result of speed, or additional speed. It takes a whole lot to win a cup, not a series of prototype vs prototype matches with a formulaic winner.
 

Kriss E

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Size is overrated...

Indeed, it is how you use it that counts.
Really isn't though...
It goes without saying that if you suck, it ain't all that helpful, but from a general standpoint being bigger helps a lot.
Armia is barely a 4th liner if he doesn't have his size that helps him with reach/protection.
 
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KFlint

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And we will get even shorter when Bedard joins the team, better not win this lottery!
 
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Estimated_Prophet

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Speed over size, that's why the Avs won the cup.

That is not true.

Size has been a consistent component to defence corps on Stanley Cup winners for a long time. The loss of Girard was a blessing imo.

Obviously Colorado is a fast team but they are hardly small. Rantanen and Nichuskin played huge parts with their ability to protect the puck as well as Mackinnon who is as strong as an ox.

Makar is the only example of an obviously undersized player and maybe Lehkonen to a lesser degree that played big roles in winning the cup
 

Rapala

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The difference is hilariously negligible
It's worse when measured in millimeters. :laugh:

That is not true.

Size has been a consistent component to defence corps on Stanley Cup winners for a long time. The loss of Girard was a blessing imo.

Obviously Colorado is a fast team but they are hardly small. Rantanen and Nichuskin played huge parts with their ability to protect the puck as well as Mackinnon who is as strong as an ox.

Makar is the only example of an obviously undersized player and maybe Lehkonen to a lesser degree that played big roles in winning the cup
Byram was awesome for them.
 
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Rapala

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Size is overrated. Always has been that being said the habs have acquired size and talent lately. They are changing the philosophy but it will take some years to do.
It really isn't. When you get a top talent with size you are much further ahead than getting a small guy IN EVERY TEAM SPORT bar none. I'll agree size in and of itself is nothing when compared to that combo of size and athleticism. I don't think that is overrating size.
 

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It really isn't. When you get a top talent with size you are much further ahead than getting a small guy IN EVERY TEAM SPORT bar none. I'll agree size in and of itself is nothing when compared to that combo of size and athleticism. I don't think that is overrating size.

So Philly got more ahead by drafting JVR than Chicago who drafted Kane just before?

Size doesn't compare to wit and compete.
 
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Rapala

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So Philly got more ahead by drafting JVR than Chicago who drafted Kane just before?

Size doesn't compare to wit and compete.
That is not what I'm saying at all. JVR and Kane aren't even in the same hemisphere. I'm talking about equally talented athletes.
 

DailyKaizen

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So Philly got more ahead by drafting JVR than Chicago who drafted Kane just before?

Size doesn't compare to wit and compete.
Was just about to size is not only physical...

The size of courage and perseverance...think prime Gallagher is far more important...

Speak to me of all those tall giants that would not ever go in the corners or be fickle, churlish and cowardly.

Size just like politics, is a contested concept, as it's value...there are so many metrics that go into evaluating the effectiveness of a hockey player.
 

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The Habs have been small for many years, yet they made it to the Stanley Cup Final once and Eastern Conference Finals twice since 2000. Size doesn't matter in today's NHL. Speedy talented forwards will find ways to outwit big shutdown D.
 

Habs Halifax

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Even with Slafkovsky and Matheson,the Habs is presently the shortest team in the NHL.Elite Prospects - Team Comparison in NHLView attachment 570094
Weight and toughness matters more than height. Hight can give you body leverage and stick reach but those guys got to play a certain style.

Suzuki is 5’-11” but he’s over 200 Lbs! Lower body strength is something he worked on clearly.

It’s a height/weight combo combined with their toughness, skill, and skating.
 

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