HF Habs: Habs Draft Video (Premieres August 31st) - teaser in OP

[WeThreeKings]

Should have picked michkov

For sure generational talent scratched in game 1 for his KHL team; can't beat that.

 

[1909]

I didn't want Noah Warren or Tristan Luneau last year.. but also consider who we would have drafted instead, I don't think anyone is upset with Beck, Hutson or Engstrom right now.

They tried to trade up for Gaucher (which I would have hated).

They tried to trade up for Cataford and the rumor was if they didn't make the Newhook trade they would have selected Gauthier (who I didn't want either).

They tried to move up for Bourque and Beaudin in that class too.

It might not appear on the outset that they don't care about the Q but they've certainly tried and most of the times, it would have ended poorly (except I was all on board with trying to get Mavrick Bourque and still am).

...From the most anti QHML poster on this board.....

 

[le_sean]

For sure generational talent scratched in game 1 for his KHL team; can't beat that.

I was always on board for Reinbacher but now I’m extra glad they stayed away from the Michkov fiasco. Zero control over his development is a major concern.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I was always on board for Reinbacher but now I’m extra glad they stayed away from the Michkov fiasco. Zero control over his development is a major concern.

Might only be one game, but early indications aren't what any team would want.

 

[Rapala]

Might only be one game, but early indications aren't what any team would want.

The next coming of Valeri Kharlamov indeed. One steep hill to climb.

 

[Ezpz]

Might only be one game, but early indications aren't what any team would want.

KHL also just ignored an IIHF ruling so there could be a chance no Russian players are coming over for a while, not just Michkov.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

Well the video kind of confirms one thing (to an extent): they picked Reinbacher because they believe he'll be more valuable than Michkov. It doesn't seem like nationality/risk was a big factor, it was pure prospect evaluation. I don't necessarily think they were right, but at least now we'll be able to assess that decision from a pure on-ice standpoint, and it'll be very telling of the scouting staff's quality in 5 years.

Also, to those who say that "4th round picks don't matter anyway" when discussing reaching... The habs are paying their scouts millions of dollars in total to *supposedly* be the best at their job. They've been evaluating theses prospects for 1,2 or 3 years even. They do all that work for... approximately 10 picks per year. If they "don't care" about reaching in the 4th round, what does that tell you?

 

[Frankenheimer]

I agree

It was an easy answer

The hard part was trying to understand the question.

“You know the thing that gives you the money? Um, you tell it to give you money with a card or something. You know what I’m talking about? Well imagine there’s two old ladies blocking you from it and you really need to tell it to give you the money. Sorry, not blocking. Just sort of um standing there in that thing where people stand. Now what do you do? Wait sorry i forgot to mention a man jumps down in front of the ladies. So, what are you doing now?”

 

[WeThreeKings]

The hard part was trying to understand the question.

“You know the thing that gives you the money? Um, you tell it to give you money with a card or something. You know what I’m talking about? Well imagine there’s two old ladies blocking you from it and you really need to tell it to give you the money. Sorry, not blocking. Just sort of um standing there in that thing where people stand. Now what do you do? Wait sorry i forgot to mention a man jumps down in front of the ladies. So, what are you doing now?”

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The sports psychologist guy sucks

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

The hard part was trying to understand the question.

“You know the thing that gives you the money? Um, you tell it to give you money with a card or something. You know what I’m talking about? Well imagine there’s two old ladies blocking you from it and you really need to tell it to give you the money. Sorry, not blocking. Just sort of um standing there in that thing where people stand. Now what do you do? Wait sorry i forgot to mention a man jumps down in front of the ladies. So, what are you doing now?”

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Jesus is that an actual quote?

There’s one thing preferring Michkov over Reinbacher. It’s quite another to be almost certain this an epic blunder.

 

[HabzSauce]

But hughes said he was a 2D ;-)

In a more serious note, completely agree on Reinbacher. People seems to consensually agree that it was between him and Michkov but i think the debate we have seen was probably between Reinbacher and Smith and that its not impossible in the end that they prefered Reinbacher to Smith.

In that one soundbite from Gorton, it definitely sounded like Michkov. But I'm sure they loved smith too.

If it means anything, David Ettedgui was on Marinaro's pod the other day. He said if Smith was available, Habs likely still would have went with reinbacher. They really liked him a lot so if true that's pretty cool. I always felt they would have preferred Will Smith to Reinbacher

 

[Skip Bayless]

#FireGorton

For sexual harassment on that scout whose shoulders he massaged.

Why are you assuming his gender, brah?

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

In that one soundbite from Gorton, it definitely sounded like Michkov. But I'm sure they loved smith too.

If it means anything, David Ettedgui was on Marinaro's pod the other day. He said if Smith was available, Habs likely still would have went with reinbacher. They really liked him a lot so if true that's pretty cool. I always felt they would have preferred Will Smith to Reinbacher

I would’ve been thankful for that. I was worried Smith would fall and we’d take hm over Reinbacher

 

[David Suzuki]

He still sounded like an entitled jock

Not suggesting anything but Patrick Roy was the definition of an entitled jock lol. Caufield also comes across as an entitled jock. Guy had barely had a cup of coffee in the NHL and he was doing mind games with the other teams goalie through the media in the playoff.

 

[YukonCornelius 5thOA]

Jesus is that an actual quote?

There’s one thing preferring Michkov over Reinbacher. It’s quite another to be almost certain this an epic blunder.

Because of what the sports psychologist asked him?

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Liking Fowler more and more. Pressure is a privilege, love that line and I wish more pro athletes thought the same way.

We will enjoy listening to Fowler for a long time. He is articulate and doesn't give you cliché answers. Also, everything about him says "winner."

Strongly agree.

 

[Habs Icing]

Not suggesting anything but Patrick Roy was the definition of an entitled jock lol. Caufield also comes across as an entitled jock. Guy had barely had a cup of coffee in the NHL and he was doing mind games with the other teams goalie through the media in the playoff.

I'm not one to defend Roy. I can't stand him for his underhanded way of getting out of town but Roy was never a whiner. As for Caufield, he doesn't come off as an entitled jock.

Not suggesting anything but Patrick Roy was the definition of an entitled jock lol. Caufield also comes across as an entitled jock. Guy had barely had a cup of coffee in the NHL and he was doing mind games with the other teams goalie through the media in the playoff.

I'm not one to defend Roy. I can't stand him for his underhanded way of getting out of town but Roy was never a whiner. As for Caufield, he doesn't come off as an entitled jock.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Because of what the sports psychologist asked him?

Haha those were supposed to be two different posts

Liking Fowler more and more. Pressure is a privilege, love that line and I wish more pro athletes thought the same way.


Strongly agree.

Yep that quote was the best part of the video.

 

[YukonCornelius 5thOA]

Haha those were supposed to be two different posts


Yep that quote was the best part of the video.

Hah! I figured something was up and was curious on your take was all.

 

[WeThreeKings]

 

[WentWughes]

I was just hoping someone was pounding the table for Benson and we still had our draft capital and perhaps a few other assets to get Benson when he slid. He is going to make NHL teams look silly for passing up on him just like Caufield did.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

100% true. Some people think that Fowler is the best G in that class. Reinbacher isn't a reach at all, he always ranked at 5-8 spot and considered the best D in this class. The only consensus player top 3 player without KHL//Russian situation is Michkov. Reinbacher is worth 100% a top 5 pick and he can easily be named on same conversation of Nemec or Jiricek. He played in pro-league and produce really really well. Habs have a good one with Reinbacher. He isn't flashy like Dahlin, but he can do everything on ice like Heiskanen and Seider can do. Only time will tell if he can reach that type of level, but he have huge potential for sure!

Many people had Fowler has one of the top goalies in the class, they got him in round 3.

Already invalidated.

Lol it was a harmless jest but let's be real, the Fowler pick was great and definitely not a reach, but...

Reinbacher was an obvious reach at 5 and was called months in advance by many here, I still think Hughes would have taken him over Smith. And don't get me wrong I love Reinbacher and I think we will be happy with him, but with the 5th overall pick it was OBVIOUS that he would be available.

It doesn't impress me that they were able to figure out that Reinbacher would be available at 5, and it really doesn't impress me that they thought Konyushkov and Xhekaj would be there in the early 4th round, if anything it is somewhat worrisome that they thought Xhekaj wouldn't be there at 101...

All of it could be selective editing anyway, I'm sure there was a range of players they wanted for each pick, and it showed no discussions about trades to move up or down for any player.

 

[Ezpz]

Should have picked michkov

I think it's interesting to see management proven right so quickly about controlling his development. Scratched two games in a row because they know they can control him for three years. By all accounts he was great in pre-season and should be in the top six. Instead he's going to get gaslit for three years which may or may not affect his development.

 

[HuGort]

Gorton definitely wanted the Russian. But he was wrong on many top picks with Rangers.

Who was the scout with the glasses talking with Riendeau about Fowler?

 

[Koivu11]