if they don't like it they can quit and go work at McDo. There's no reason to care how they "feel"
Since patches was anointed a power forward. That worked out well enough!If you can't stand heat, don't work in a kitchen.
With that said, while L.Shaw is big, he isn't very physical, won't instill fear in anybody in the league. JT Brown is actually way more physical than him.
Since when size=grit, by the way ?
I'm sure this just thrills McCarron.
He's not good enough because he processes the game at a snail's pace.McCarron's not good enough. In large part due to how the organization has handled him.
He's not good enough because he processes the game at a snail's pace.
Takes way too long to make decisions, doesn't react to plays quick enough and doesn't get to the areas of the ice he needs to be in time. Much like Tinordi.
There's plenty to blame the org for, but not every single prospect that doesn't pan out is due to mismanagement.
First I agree or I highly doubt that Logan Shaw will be any kind of answer.
On my point of view Habs are suffering of thier small size from years. When hooking was tolerate being a small team was a disadvantage. When every skater can skate his full speed and not being worry by goons or fighters, some small very fast players can be successfull but on the other side a heavy fast skater have nothing to stop him. If the big, tall and heavy skilled player can skate his full speed he becomes the king of the place and we see the western teams have some success. Anaheim, LA Kings and S-José are hard to beat and S Cup contenders. The goons are gone but the game changed into a more violent sport. The speed of the hits in the corners increased and players suffers from hits that looks like a bicycle accident 7 times a game. I saw a documentary the other night, I saw Semenko fighting every player trying to hit Gretzky. I saw several hits to Crosby and nobody like Semenko to punish back. The documentary said Crosby received hard hits in one year what Greztky received in his complete career.
In my view, the game changed into a pinball machine with humans. The balls rolls without restriction so the players "pinball" with more speed. Big Westerns teams rules with their heavy pressure puck. It happens that LA had the best team because they were faster, had the best duo of centers (Kopitar and Carter), the best D (Doughty) and the best G (Quick).
When a team like Chicago or Penguins wins it's mainly because their duo or centers rules that year. Or let's say a group of scoring forwards that include solid centers. Crosby and Malkin are very good. Toews and Kane top talent too. Yes they are not big and heavy (as an whole team) like LA Kings or Anaheim but they are not the smallest (or little weight) team like Habs are ...every year!
In the range of weight, being into the 60% heavy of the league like Tampa bay are would be a good number. Rangers are heavy enough to go thru two rounds of PO most of the years, they lack some top talent but they can go thru some physical rounds of PO. St-Louis and Nashville are heavy enough and have some skilled players too, both good teams in PO.
Sorry for a long post guys, I just wanted to defend the idea of the Habs should get more weight without sacrifice talent. Logan Shaw is a player claimed by weavers. Zero cost, mostly zero results. Few times it works great. Byron is one example, Beauchemin and Hainsey have been lost by weavers.
He was near PPG when he started in the AHL. He was called up and held in the NHL multiple times when he has a string of production.
Lefebvre said he would never be a scorer at the NHL level and theres a quote out there about their approach to developing him and it's hogwash.
He was mismanaged.
since it was in response of "should ask NHler what they think"...This post doesn't make any sense
Because his flaws aren't apparent at the AHL level. Regardless of whether he goes PPG in the AHL or 0.5PPG, it won't translate to the NHL.
There is no proper development approach to a player who isn't capable of playing the game at NHL speed.
So which prospect that did not pan out you would say was mishandled?He's not good enough because he processes the game at a snail's pace.
Takes way too long to make decisions, doesn't react to plays quick enough and doesn't get to the areas of the ice he needs to be in time. Much like Tinordi.
There's plenty to blame the org for, but not every single prospect that doesn't pan out is due to mismanagement.
Bergevin loves him some Shaw!
I'm sure this just thrills McCarron.
Bergevin keeps proving my point that he just wings it. What does Shaw bring that McCarron can’t? What a horribly managed organization
He never really excelled at any level. Not even junior. They took a chance on him but it failed. I don’t think he would have been any better anywhere else. It’s ridiculous that people on this board were so hyped for this guy for so long. It was obvious 2 years ago.He's not good enough because he processes the game at a snail's pace.
Takes way too long to make decisions, doesn't react to plays quick enough and doesn't get to the areas of the ice he needs to be in time. Much like Tinordi.
There's plenty to blame the org for, but not every single prospect that doesn't pan out is due to mismanagement.
They could be planning on involving him in a deal (Mccarron I mean). It’s not like he’s in their plans. He’s an ahl guy anyway.Bergevin keeps proving my point that he just wings it. What does Shaw bring that McCarron can’t? What a horribly managed organization
I never saw a poster write that McCarron would be more than a 3rd liner.. At BestIt’s ridiculous that people on this board were so hyped for this guy for so long
I agree but he is regressing under Lefebvre to the point where he is about to become a first round bust.I'd actually rather lose with a waiver pickup while McCarron gets a lot of ice time in Laval, as it's not like CJ would play McCarron a lot anyway. I just wish they would put McCarron with Terry and Scherbak instead of Cracknell.
He never really excelled at any level. Not even junior. They took a chance on him but it failed. I don’t think he would have been any better anywhere else. It’s ridiculous that people on this board were so hyped for this guy for so long. It was obvious 2 years ago.
Goals and speed?Bergevin keeps proving my point that he just wings it. What does Shaw bring that McCarron can’t? What a horribly managed organization
I do actually remember a lot of posters being high on him. It was at a time when size was more important and we were probably the smallest team in the league. Anytime he had a few good games posters were saying they saw potential for him being the big center we'd all hoped for. I remember pointing out that his numbers at the junior were not that good, and posters saying they had just seen him live and numbers don't mean anything, he has talent, etc...I never saw a poster write that McCarron would be more than a 3rd liner.. At Best