Proposal: HABS & CANUCKS

MXD

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Habs are loosing a shit load of fowards vets next year.
Drouin-Dadonov-Monahan-Byron-Maybe Hoffman are gone.
We could use a 25 years old 20 goals scorer in the line up.

CC-Suzuki-Dach
??-??-Anderson
Slaf-Dvorak-Boeser
??-Evans-Gally

Your original take was bad. No need to double down.
 

Gaud

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I like Boeser, but i dont think we are one Boeser from making the playoffs. I also don't think making the playoffs this year is a must (or even a want) by anybody than the coach and players and a minority of fans. Lastly, not sure he fits with the culture of "speed, work hard and never give up" mentality they are trying to build there.

That being said, of the names listed, id be OK with a package that included a subset or combination of hte following players:
Farrell
Tuck
Struble
Norlinder
Ylonen
2rd pick 2024 (AVS)

These are "maybes", but they hurt if we lose them
Roy
Kidney
Mysak

not touching Primeau. RHP is probably attainable, but i like how he fits in the culture.
 

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He can’t skate. You don’t pay $6.65m for a 20 goal scorer. Canucks fans constantly make excuses for why he hasn’t hit the next level (his back injury from 4 years ago, his father died). But the bottom line is he can’t skate.
Show some empathy here. His father went through severe late stage Alzheimer’s before ultimately succumbing to it in the off season. His father was loved amongst the fanbase, just imagine Boeser and what he had to go through last season.

Secondly, Boeser can skate, he just has bad acceleration/top end speed but if you see what he excels at it’s board battles and being strong with the puck. He was one of the best last season stats wise in those categories.

There are many players in the league who are by far worse “skaters” like Pavelski, Matt Tkachuk who is pretty damn slow, Tarasenko, Wheeler, etc yet are still putting up points.

A healthy Boeser is good for 55-60 points. He’s on pace for 75 pts right now and usually hovers around 0.85-0.91ppg.
 

Tanknation

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Habs are loosing a shit load of fowards vets next year.
Drouin-Dadonov-Monahan-Byron-Maybe Hoffman are gone.
We could use a 25 years old 20 goals scorer in the line up.

CC-Suzuki-Dach
??-??-Anderson
Slaf-Dvorak-Boeser
??-Evans-Gally
Those vets are spare parts, and not very good for a rebuilding team. Sign some vets with leadership to keep the team in line.
Also, we dont need to trade futures for random wingers right now.
 

Lockin17

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He can’t skate. You don’t pay $6.65m for a 20 goal scorer. Canucks fans constantly make excuses for why he hasn’t hit the next level (his back injury from 4 years ago, his father died). But the bottom line is he can’t ska

I like Boeser, but i dont think we are one Boeser from making the playoffs. I also don't think making the playoffs this year is a must (or even a want) by anybody than the coach and players and a minority of fans. Lastly, not sure he fits with the culture of "speed, work hard and never give up" mentality they are trying to build there.

That being said, of the names listed, id be OK with a package that included a subset or combination of hte following players:
Farrell
Tuck
Struble
Norlinder
Ylonen
2rd pick 2024 (AVS)

These are "maybes", but they hurt if we lose them
Roy
Kidney
Mysak

not touching Primeau. RHP is probably attainable, but i like how he fits in the culture.
Farrell should be in the Maybes as well
 

Qwijibo

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Show some empathy here. His father went through severe late stage Alzheimer’s before ultimately succumbing to it in the off season. His father was loved amongst the fanbase, just imagine Boeser and what he had to go through last season.

Secondly, Boeser can skate, he just has bad acceleration/top end speed but if you see what he excels at it’s board battles and being strong with the puck. He was one of the best last season stats wise in those categories.

There are many players in the league who are by far worse “skaters” like Pavelski, Matt Tkachuk who is pretty damn slow, Tarasenko, Wheeler, etc yet are still putting up points.

A healthy Boeser is good for 55-60 points. He’s on pace for 75 pts right now and usually hovers around 0.85-0.91ppg.
Cool. Keep him. Montreal doesn’t have room for a .$6.65m perimeter player who can’t keep up with the play. He pretty much single handedly cost the Canucks the game against Vegas last night
 

Mersss

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Show some empathy here. His father went through severe late stage Alzheimer’s before ultimately succumbing to it in the off season. His father was loved amongst the fanbase, just imagine Boeser and what he had to go through last season.

Secondly, Boeser can skate, he just has bad acceleration/top end speed but if you see what he excels at it’s board battles and being strong with the puck. He was one of the best last season stats wise in those categories.

There are many players in the league who are by far worse “skaters” like Pavelski, Matt Tkachuk who is pretty damn slow, Tarasenko, Wheeler, etc yet are still putting up points.

A healthy Boeser is good for 55-60 points. He’s on pace for 75 pts right now and usually hovers around 0.85-0.91ppg.
BUt the guys you mentioned also play with grit and are actually using their body as physical presence.
Boeser plays like he's Debrincat out there.
 

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Cool. Keep him. Montreal doesn’t have room for a .$6.65m perimeter player who can’t keep up with the play. He pretty much single handedly cost the Canucks the game against Vegas last night
Much rather keep him than trade him to another team that doesn’t really have much to offer.
 

Qwijibo

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Much rather keep him than trade him to another team that doesn’t really have much to offer.
Montreal has a top 10 prospect pool. Unlike Vancouver, whose cupboards are bare. Regardless. Montreal doesn’t need Boeser. Especially not with his contract.
 

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Habs are loosing a shit load of fowards vets next year.
Drouin-Dadonov-Monahan-Byron-Maybe Hoffman are gone.
We could use a 25 years old 20 goals scorer in the line up.

CC-Suzuki-Dach
??-??-Anderson
Slaf-Dvorak-Boeser
??-Evans-Gally
That would be horrendous from a cap management POV.

I'm not overly worried about next year honestly - we can grab a winger from a team with cap issues and actually gain something in return.
 

DingDongCharlie

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Boeser would be a terrible add for Montreal in their current situation.

For Vancouver no deal with the main piece being a late 2nd is going to open the discussion when you want them to take Dadonov or Drouin.
 
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HuGo Sham

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probably Suzuki + Beck + 2023 2nd
or
2023 1st + Florida's 2023 1st +Mysak + late round pick

Aka Never going to happen.
lmao. you should be banned from posting as a visiting poster on habs board for such a ridiculous troll ask
 

Xirik

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lmao. you should be banned from posting as a visiting poster on habs board for such a ridiculous troll ask
Grow up? Grow some skin?

My reply is what I believed Canucks fans would ask for and if you think they wouldn't they would then well....o_O

If the Canucks traded Pettersson that would mean they only have Horvat who has a good chance of leaving at the end of the year.

outside of the Habs boards I think most people think Pettersson > Suzuki so the Habs would have to add thus Beck and a 2nd.

OBVIOUSLY the Habs wouldn't find that palatable THUS I put the 2nd trade in my post as it probably would be a good middle ground.

If you feel that Is should be reported and banned then Do it. Publicly telling me is abhorrent and extremely rude. Perhaps you feel the need to have a power trip and hold the guilotine above my head?

If you don't like what I say you do know there his a ignore function? The fact that you go from nothing to the Nuclear option is telling.

Lots of people on the Habs board have given me positive comments and welcomed me and I enjoy their posts. If some hateful few want me gone that's okay because I know the vast majority of the people on the Habs board are top tier people.
 
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Mersss

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Boeser would be a terrible add for Montreal in their current situation.

For Vancouver no deal with the main piece being a late 2nd is going to open the discussion when you want them to take Dadonov or Drouin.
Habs won't trade a 2nd in a rebuilding year to dump Drouin or Dadonov.
Especially not to grab a guy who's skating is well bellow average like Boeser.
 

habsfan44

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Canucks are lacking prospect and Habs might be in for a playoff spot.

What would it take to land Boeser ??

Habs could have some of these players on the table :
Dadonov or Drouin would have to go the other way for cap purposes.
Roy
Kidney
Mysak
Farrell
Tuck
Struble
Norlinder
Primeau
Ylonen
RHP
2rd pick 2024 (AVS)
delete
 

Mersss

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Grow up? Grow some skin?

My reply is what I believed Canucks fans would ask for and if you think they wouldn't they would then well....o_O

If the Canucks traded Pettersson that would mean they only have Horvat who has a good chance of leaving at the end of the year.

outside of the Habs boards I think most people think Pettersson > Suzuki so the Habs would have to add thus Beck and a 2nd.

OBVIOUSLY the Habs wouldn't find that palatable THUS I put the 2nd trade in my post as it probably would be a good middle ground.

If you feel that Is should be reported and banned then Do it. Publicly telling me is abhorrent and extremely rude. Perhaps you feel the need to have a power trip and hold the guilotine above my head?

If you don't like what I say you do know there his a ignore function? The fact that you go from nothing to the Nuclear option is telling.

Lots of people on the Habs board have given me positive comments and welcomed me and I enjoy their posts. If some hateful few want me gone that's okay because I know the vast majority of the people on the Habs board are top tier people.
You do realise Suzuki is outperforming Petterson right now heh?

And that he's signes under 8M for the next 8 years?
 

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You do realise Suzuki is outperforming Petterson right now heh?

And that he's signes under 8M for the next 8 years?
Canucks fans reply by saying "Pettersson has shown to be the better player over the long term and the gap in the performance this year is minimal"

I answered @Bouboumaster question, and pointed out that such a trade would never happen. If you think otherwise then please post your fair pettersson to the Habs trade.
 

HuGo Sham

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Grow up? Grow some skin?

My reply is what I believed Canucks fans would ask for and if you think they wouldn't they would then well....o_O

If the Canucks traded Pettersson that would mean they only have Horvat who has a good chance of leaving at the end of the year.

outside of the Habs boards I think most people think Pettersson > Suzuki so the Habs would have to add thus Beck and a 2nd.

OBVIOUSLY the Habs wouldn't find that palatable THUS I put the 2nd trade in my post as it probably would be a good middle ground.

If you feel that Is should be reported and banned then Do it. Publicly telling me is abhorrent and extremely rude. Perhaps you feel the need to have a power trip and hold the guilotine above my head?

If you don't like what I say you do know there his a ignore function? The fact that you go from nothing to the Nuclear option is telling.

Lots of people on the Habs board have given me positive comments and welcomed me and I enjoy their posts. If some hateful few want me gone that's okay because I know the vast majority of the people on the Habs board are top tier people.
Ok ok ok; just stop with the dumb counter-offers
;)
 

DingDongCharlie

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Habs won't trade a 2nd in a rebuilding year to dump Drouin or Dadonov.
Especially not to grab a guy who's skating is well bellow average like Boeser.

Fair enough. Wasn’t implying they should. Just if Vancouvers goal is to stay competitive and avoid a rebuild which seems likely given ownership getting Drouin makes little sense. It’s a terrible proposal for both teams.
 

ole ole

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Canucks fans reply by saying "Pettersson has shown to be the better player over the long term and the gap in the performance this year is minimal"

I answered @Bouboumaster question, and pointed out that such a trade would never happen. If you think otherwise then please post your fair pettersson to the Habs trade.
I'm not sure what a fair offer would be but i do know that asking for Suzuki + Beck + a 2023 2nd is ridiculous very bad for the Habs.
 
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habsfan44

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Small winger? Boeser?

You do know that Boeser is bigger than Roy and Kidney right?
So is his cap hit . Now isn't the time to be adding big contracts in return for youth and high picks . I suspect Hughes will continue to add prospects and high picks when possible while giving the youth every opportunity to crack the lineup just like he did this year with four rookies on our defense and I think this will continue for the next year or two at least .
 

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