Proposal: HABS & CANUCKS

[Xirik]

OP lacks knowledge of Habs needs and objectives. Habs are not trading prospects for a winger during a rebuild. That is the height of stupidity.

usually he lacks knowledge of the other teams needs and objectives. This thread is surprisingly different!

 

[HabsDood]

No they are not.

Habs don't have a starter
Habs don't have a 2nd line
Habs don't have a true #1 Dman ala Hedman / Norris calibre winner

Habs are a top5 draft pick in the NHL. Once team shutdown Suzuki-Caufield and our goalie go back to their career type of play, we'll plumet. Draft Fantili/Bedard/Michkov and then we'll start adding some young vets to the team
When we have that, then we'll contend. Until then trade the guys that are 26 and up for picks. Thats it.

Guhle will be the guy, and we have 4 lines

 

[Mersss]

Guhle will be the guy, and we have 4 lines

Guhle won't be a 60pts dman in the NHL.

And we do not have 4 lines. Take out the kids line and we have nothing.

 

[HabsDood]

Guhle won't be a 60pts dman in the NHL.

And we do not have 4 lines. Take out the kids line and we have nothing.

Have a beer man

 

[Mersss]

Have a beer man

You have one. Guhle has never even manages 60pts in junior... Is he a very good 2way dman capable of 40pts a season? Yes. But that's a solid #2. We need a Norris calibre dman like Hedman, Ekblad, Makar

 

[HabsDood]

You have one. Guhle has never even manages 60pts in junior... Is he a very good 2way dman capable of 40pts a season? Yes. But that's a solid #2. We need a Norris calibre dman like Hedman, Ekblad, Makar

Naaaaa we need Guhle Jackeye Haris and that Kovacevic guy wich is a gift, Edmunson and Savard are great tutors.. For now this is great

 

[Bouboumaster]

Just for lulz, let's say we want Petterson instead...

What would be the price?

 

[Qwijibo]

Just for lulz, let's say we want Petterson instead...

What would be the price?

Oh this won’t go well. Why even go there?

 

[HabsDood]

Though here comes Matheson

 

[Xirik]

Just for lulz, let's say we want Petterson instead...

What would be the price?

probably Suzuki + Beck + 2023 2nd
or
2023 1st + Florida's 2023 1st +Mysak + late round pick

Aka Never going to happen.

 

[im gangster]

habs can have boeser for free, and can send back a year of salary equal to him to facilitate it

 

[Qwijibo]

habs can have boeser for free, and can send back a year of salary equal to him to facilitate it

No thanks

 

[Mersss]

Naaaaa we need Guhle Jackeye Haris and that Kovacevic guy wich is a gift, Edmunson and Savard are great tutors.. For now this is great

Agreed we need those guys as #3-4-5-6-7.

We need a whole 2nd line and big physical bottom 6ers. We're still so far!

 

[Bouboumaster]

Oh this won’t go well. Why even go there?

 

[HuGort]

This is interesting. I like the idea of futures for Boeser. This is dealing from a position of strength for the Canucks (scoring winger) and adding to a position of weakness (decent prospects). The issue then becomes finding the value on a long list of futures. Everyone has different opinions regarding prospects and their potential but of the list you provided I think the only players that the Canucks might have interest in would be
Roy, Kidney, Mysak, Beck and Mesar - I also like the pick, but the Avs pick in 2024 is going to be late in the round and a full 2 years away from happening, meaning 5 years away from any real impact. I would consider the Mtl 2023 2nd but that Avs pick doesn't hold a ton of value for a team that refuses to go full rebuild. Farrell has a ton of skill, but given the teams current make up Garland, Kuzmenko, Hoglander, EP the Canucks are already small up front so a player like Farrell is more of the same. I don't think Tuch, Norlinder, RHP or Ylonen are NHLers and if they are its as a call up or fill in, not a year in year out contributor.

Anyhow, if the Habs were willing to move Roy + Kidney or Beck + something to take on either Dadonov or Drouin I would consider it.

Habs be interested in Boeser. He's kind of guy we can slot in as second line winger to play long term between Dubois and Slaf..We could offer late first and solid prospect like Farrell or Mesar? Plus you take on expiring contract to balance out caproom. Somebody like Drouin. We could trade Edmunston for late first, that's the pick I offer. Not ours or Florida. They could be lottery picks.

I am all in with that offer. At 6.5 million Boeser salary bring us good player next summer. Plus we keep our future. Habs going no where this season, so he not emergency

 

[smirob]

Odds are we are drafting another forward in the top 10 this year, on top of that we have too many wingers as-is. I don't see this making sense for MTL.

PLD makes sense to me as he can slot in at 2C and move to wing if needed.

 

[danyhabsfan]

Zero chance Habs trade one of Roy, Kidney, Beck for Boeser. All of these guys are just dominant right now and it would be foolish to trade dame for a small winger who's just a very lesser version od Caufield.

We don't need Boeser. We need to stand path in the rebuild. The team will slow down, the goalies will go back to their normal and we'll finish bottom 5. Thats whats going to happen.

Small winger? Boeser?

You do know that Boeser is bigger than Roy and Kidney right?

 

[Habs Halifax]

No they are not.

Habs don't have a starter
Habs don't have a 2nd line
Habs don't have a true #1 Dman ala Hedman / Norris calibre winner

Habs are a top5 draft pick in the NHL. Once team shutdown Suzuki-Caufield and our goalie go back to their career type of play, we'll plumet. Draft Fantili/Bedard/Michkov and then we'll start adding some young vets to the team
When we have that, then we'll contend. Until then trade the guys that are 26 and up for picks. Thats it.

Habs are not a sure shot bottom 5 team. We had a horrible start to the season last year and the team confidence/momentum was low. Price and Weber on LTIR, Danault walking, KK offer sheet, with many others banged up and not 100%. We had historic man games lost. Took us all of 2021 to get 7 wins (Oct to Dec 31). It was not likely to happen again and it didn't!

This season, they have different energy with less expectations heading in. I doubt they make the playoffs though and they should fall down a bit but if you think they fall to bottom 5, you might be disappointed. I would like it too but it's tracking 0.450 - 0.5 winning % and that will put is in the bottom 6-16 range. I'm expecting the 7th or 8th pick (+/-). Could be 4-6 or 9-12. Something like that and it's anybody's guess... games have to be played on the ice and player/coaches will do their best.

We are not going to trade futures for short term gains. Huges and Gorton know the long term vision mistakes Bergevin made and they will avoid it. Our draft power will remain high for the next few drafts and it all comes down to scouting/drafting/development. It's growing pain years and we can still find the pieces we need regardless if it's top 5 picks or not.

 

[McJedi]

This is such a bad idea for the Habs, even if Boeser came for free.​

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Habs should do it. Trade a 2nd and a prospect for a bad contract with term. Make a non Habs fan like me laugh out loud.​

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Want to see what you get with Boeser… go watch Vegas score the game winning goal last night. See which Vancouver player doesn’t defend Petro.​

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lets be real. Habs have a good GM. That’s why you’re not in the Bedard chase. Just stay the course and don’t muck up your cap with bad contracts signed by worse GMs of other teams.​

 

[Habs Halifax]

Odds are we are drafting another forward in the top 10 this year, on top of that we have too many wingers as-is. I don't see this making sense for MTL.

PLD makes sense to me as he can slot in at 2C and move to wing if needed.

Habs could draft for any player position in the next draft. They will go BPA.

PLD might happen. Possible we might do sign/trade but I think we wait it out until he reaches UFA. By that time, the cap will be much higher and a lot of contracts will expire giving us lots of cap flexibility. it's lining up well.

We are not trading for Boeser. Bad timing. Makes no sense in pumping Boeser up or down.

This is such a bad idea for the Habs, even if Boeser came for free.​

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Habs should do it. Trade a 2nd and a prospect for a bad contract with term.​

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Want to see what you get with Boeser… go watch Vegas score the game winning goal last night. See which Vancouver player doesn’t defend Petro.​

I'd say 90% of Habs fans see it the way you do. Some fans (can't blame them too much) want to make the playoffs and be a playoff pretender for a few years. Bergevin type vision.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Drouin and the Hab's 2nd would work for me.

 

[Mersss]

Small winger? Boeser?

You do know that Boeser is bigger than Roy and Kidney right?

He's soft as butter, injury prone and slow.

What we need are Ton Wilson types and Hedman types.
Habs still need their Makar. We still need at least another PF to play top6
We need a young 2ñd line C
We need a new Carey Price
Until all those holes are filled. Keep rebuilding

 

[JohnTheBaptist]

As a Habs fan there is nothing there other than Roy.

Edit: didn't see Farrell - Roy, Farrell and a 2nd is close but probably not enough.

Why would we trade Ferrell? He's killing it and we haven't even seen him in a Habs uniform yet for training camp. He's a magic bean, you don't trade your magic beans during a rebuild, you plant them and see what grows.

 

[Lockin17]

Odds are we are drafting another forward in the top 10 this year, on top of that we have too many wingers as-is. I don't see this making sense for MTL.

PLD makes sense to me as he can slot in at 2C and move to wing if needed.

Habs are loosing a shit load of fowards vets next year.
Drouin-Dadonov-Monahan-Byron-Maybe Hoffman are gone.
We could use a 25 years old 20 goals scorer in the line up.

CC-Suzuki-Dach
??-??-Anderson
Slaf-Dvorak-Boeser
??-Evans-Gally

 

[Qwijibo]

Habs are loosing a shit load of fowards vets next year.
Drouin-Dadonov-Monahan-Byron-Maybe Hoffman are gone.
We could use a 25 years old 20 goals scorer in the line up.

CC-Suzuki-Dach
??-??-Anderson
Slaf-Dvorak-Boeser
??-Evans-Gally

He can’t skate. You don’t pay $6.65m for a 20 goal scorer. Canucks fans constantly make excuses for why he hasn’t hit the next level (his back injury from 4 years ago, his father died). But the bottom line is he can’t skate.