Proposal: Habs - Bruins / Sergachev for Pastrank & Forsbacka-Karlsson

[Bleeker]

No chance Montreal does this.
Sergachev is the real deal.
As much as i like him you dont trade a future no.1 Dman for a winger like Pastrnak.

 

[Legend123]

Pastrnak's first two seasons at 18 and 19 are closer comparable to Galchenyuk if you are looking at age + production. Pastrnak's production level is actually a notch higher. Gallagher made his debut in his 20/21 year old campaign. All of Pastrnak's NHL games have come as a teenager. Can't compare with players who make it at 18, especially ones like Pastrnak who have somewhat themselves as top-6 forwards who can create/produce on their own.

Well Galchenyuk is a center and a top3 pick. I dont think pasta has the same upisde.

 

[Legend123]

No chance Montreal does this.
Sergachev is the real deal.
As much as i like him you dont trade a future no.1 Dman for a winger like Pastrnak.

I agree other than 'like pastrnak'. Hes promising and is the future face of the bruins, tho i might be wrong.

 

[Seachd]

That too. When was the last time a team traded a player they drafted 3 months prior?

September 11, 2015.

 

[BadBruins]

Well Galchenyuk is a center and a top3 pick. I dont think pasta has the same upisde.

That's fine. That's your opinion. Pastrnak is the 2nd most valuable asset in the Bruins organization next to Bergeron IMO. His upside and skill set is absolutely at an upper echelon tier. And he's somewhat proven as a top-6 F. High floor, which has arguably already been hit, and also high upside.

That said, I can see not wanting to trade a top D prospect for a top W prospect/young player. For the Bruins, they've drafted McAvoy (14), Zboril (13), Lauzon (52), Carlo (37), and Lindgren (49) in the past two years alone. It's not like they are hurting for 96-98 born D prospects in their pool with upside, even if none of them have Sergachev's status as a top-10 pick.

 

[Legend123]

That's fine. That's your opinion. Pastrnak is the 2nd most valuable asset in the Bruins organization next to Bergeron IMO. His upside and skill set is absolutely at an upper echelon tier. And he's somewhat proven as a top-6 F. High floor, which has arguably already been hit, and also high upside.

That said, I can see not wanting to trade a top D prospect for a top W prospect/young player. For the Bruins, they've drafted McAvoy (14), Zboril (13), Lauzon (52), Carlo (37), and Lindgren (49) in the past two years alone. It's not like they are hurting for 96-98 born D prospects in their pool with upside, even if none of them have Sergachev's status as a top-10 pick.

yup fair enough. The bruins def dont need any more D prospects.

 

[rhinoshawarma]

These teams dont trade. I'll just stop there

 

[BruinLVGA]

That's fine. That's your opinion. Pastrnak is the 2nd most valuable asset in the Bruins organization next to Bergeron IMO. His upside and skill set is absolutely at an upper echelon tier. And he's somewhat proven as a top-6 F. High floor, which has arguably already been hit, and also high upside.

That said, I can see not wanting to trade a top D prospect for a top W prospect/young player. For the Bruins, they've drafted McAvoy (14), Zboril (13), Lauzon (52), Carlo (37), and Lindgren (49) in the past two years alone. It's not like they are hurting for 96-98 born D prospects in their pool with upside, even if none of them have Sergachev's status as a top-10 pick.

I second the motion.

 

[TT1]

Pasta is a stud, honestly i value him about the same as Drouin.

 

[BluesTraveler]

Hard pass from the Bruins. No reason to give up a 20 year old with nearly 100 games of NHL experience for a prospect, no matter how many Montreal Fans are claiming he's the second coming (especially when said prospect hasn't even played his Draft+1 season yet). Especially when the Bruins picked a D-man in that same draft who has similar upside.

Pastrnak will be a 50 points a season player over the course of an 82 game season where he is played top 6 minutes, and that's without him improving at all. Sergachev may have better upside (although anyone who has watched Pasta play knows there is top 25 forward potential), you don't trade a $100 for a lottery ticket that has the potential to give you $125 if you're lucky

 

[northeastern]

Value might be close, but it makes no sense for either team to make such a trade!

Agreed with this. Bruins have the d depth baking and need wingers now. While sergachev is the future of the habs d... Maybe values are fine but the need isn't there...

 

[HOPE]

No chance Montreal does this.
Sergachev is the real deal.
As much as i like him you dont trade a future no.1 Dman for a winger like Pastrnak.

cmon take your homer glass off, of course serga could have a high ceilling but let the kid grow before claiming his a #1 Dman, every year around 4-5 Dmans are suppose to turn out #1 dman and it barely happens once a draft

 

[jacks*]

Easy no from the Habs.

 

[seafoam]

Bruins do not do that, and I think it's pretty clear why if you look at it from their perspective.

 

[Habsfan2731]

Love Pastrnak but we can't AFFORD to make this trade.

Markov & Weber are on the wrong side of 30, if say we still had PK then its feasible moving Sergachev for a big help up front.

Sergachev is our only hope to replace Markov in the near future & potentially Weber down the road. We honest to god can't afford to move him.

 

[Halla]

The better player to date, mainly cuz Sergechev just got drafted, but def not the player with the more potential.

Pastrnak would be an easy top 10 pick in a 2014 redraft.
one could argue the kid with 53 pts in 97 NHL games as a junior eligible player has more potential than a kid who no one heard about a year ago

 

[Halla]

Well Galchenyuk is a center and a top3 pick. I dont think pasta has the same upisde.

galchenyuk didnt even make team NA as an injury replacement.
draft position means nothing. yak went #1 in that draft, does he have more value than pastrnak too?

 

[Habsfan2731]

galchenyuk didnt even make team NA as an injury replacement.
draft position means nothing. yak went #1 in that draft, does he have more value than pastrnak too?

JBO made team Canada but PK Subban & Kris Letang didn't. What's your point? Using the WCOH to define value is awfully poor.

 

[Legend123]

galchenyuk didnt even make team NA as an injury replacement.
draft position means nothing. yak went #1 in that draft, does he have more value than pastrnak too?

wow, Miller>Galchenyuk confirmed by HF poster

Galchenyuk would be second in that team in Goals. More than enough to play there. Bt no players like Trotchek, Miller, Matthews, and so on play there instead of a 30 goal scorer with size.

 

[Legend123]

galchenyuk didnt even make team NA as an injury replacement.
draft position means nothing. yak went #1 in that draft, does he have more value than pastrnak too?

Galchenyuk has proven to not be a bust. Top3 picks, who are not busts, are valued way more than late first rounders. See: Drouin. He wasnt a bust nor did much in the NHL. He still had significant value around the NHL.

 

[Baddkarma]

Ok, Bergeron's name was mentioned, lock thread...

 

[RyderRocks73]

Even if Bergeron is offered, the habs shouldnt really mortgage our future for him when we are already paying Plekanec 6M$. But value wise, its clear cut, Bergeron by a mile.

Other than him, the bruins def have more than enough to acquire him or any valuable player. Krejci, Spooner, Rask, Krug, Pasternak, prospects, Marchand, etc...

Enough in whose mind? None of those guys get Sergachev. I wouldn't listen to any combination of them for a highly touted pick that hasn't even shown us what he can do yet. We're not throwing another McDonagh moment.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Another case of a deal that makes no sense for either team.

Boston is full of 18/19 year old high end defensive prospects. And while they could use a 23/24 year old defenseman to be the leader to the next generation. And of course Pasta has been a huge boom pick already, and looks like a guy who will be a first line winger for the next decade.

Montreal needs to build around Sergachev moving forward

 

[Legend123]

Enough in whose mind? None of those guys get Sergachev. I wouldn't listen to any combination of them for a highly touted pick that hasn't even shown us what he can do yet. We're not throwing another McDonagh moment.

Dude chill. I would trade Sergechev for very few players/prospects. He looks like the real deal. Trading him will be a worst moment than the McD and Subban moments.
What I was trying to say, cuz apparently u cant read, the Bruins def have enough players and pieces to acquire him. Not that mtl should do it, but saying Boston has nothing like the poster I was replying to said is stupid and ridiculous.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Pastrnak would be an easy top 10 pick in a 2014 redraft.
one could argue the kid with 53 pts in 97 NHL games as a junior eligible player has more potential than a kid who no one heard about a year ago

Enough in whose mind? None of those guys get Sergachev. I wouldn't listen to any combination of them for a highly touted pick that hasn't even shown us what he can do yet. We're not throwing another McDonagh moment.

Yeah, right.