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KevSkillz4

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I really like that the scout of Ontario wanted Owen Beck at 26.

Serge Boisvert really like Vinzenz Rohrer too.

They have made a great professionnal work, team work, to make a selection. Slafkovsky is a big horse, very talented with a attitude to want to make a difference in a game.

Great video!!
 
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...where were the "muscle shots" and flying toenail clippings??...:dunno:





...oh, wait; that was the previous Moron Group...carry on...:thumbu:
Lol in fact if you look at the same video from 2018 they start at 1:13 they all focus on strength "Muscle shots" :sarcasm:
 

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Would have liked to see more hockey reasons for drafting Slaf. Unfortunately, this did nothing to make me think they were privy to information the fans didn’t have. I thought it was well-done, but I think their reasons for drafting Slaf were less about talent and more about size and personality. I find that very unfortunate.
We dont have the same definition of what is talent. Slafkovsky has the smoothest hands in the draft and can deke players at full speed, thats talent.
 

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We dont have the same definition of what is talent. Slafkovsky has the smoothest hands in the draft and can deke players at full speed, thats talent.

Slaf will surprise some people on this board with hands and hockey IQ. Even his skating ability. That's why I like comparing Slaf to Svechnikov, they are big, but very very talented players. The talent of Slaf is close to Svechnikov, IMO. Can't wait to see him to prove that!
 

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Slaf will surprise some people on this board with hands and hockey IQ. Even his skating ability. That's why I like comparing Slaf to Svechnikov, they are big, but very very talented players. The talent of Slaf is close to Svechnikov, IMO. Can't wait to see him to prove that!
Had Slaf played in the CHL or on the USNDTP program, he would have been a force and you woudlnt hear anyone complaining about the pick. His lack of production in Liiga is why you will find some doubters, but I cant blame them, they have no clue what Liiga is about. The camp cant come soon enough, doubters will realize why Slaf went 1st OV.
 
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KevSkillz4

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Had Slaf played in the CHL or on the USNDTP program, you woudlnt hear anyone complaining about the pick. His lack of production in Liiga is why you will find some doubters, but I cant blame them, they have no clue what Liiga is about. The camp cant come soon enough, doubters will realize why Slaf went 1st OV.

Agree with that. Slafkovsky in OHL, he would easily score at least 35 goals... He just put 7 goals in 7 games not in WJC, but at OLYMPICS (People will say that he play against not the best competition, but he have play very solid game against a team like Canada even if he don't put point and they have players like Matthew Barzal... not bad at all).
 
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Eric Crawford is the reason we traded for all the garbage in the West years ago, he's a total putz and a failure of a scout. How that idiot has a job is a miracle
Oh the guy blows asshole at his job, but he's absolutely right about the reasoning to pick Hutson
 

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Agree with that. Slafkovsky in OHL, he would easily score at least 35 goals... He just put 7 goals in 7 games not in WJC, but at OLYMPICS (People will say that he play against not the best competition, but he have play very solid game against a team like Canada even if he don't put point and they have players like Matthew Barzal... not bad at all).
I think some people just dont fully realize the level of competition the Olympics and especially the WC is. Its pretty rare and difficult for a 17 yrs old kid to shine the way Slaf shone in those men events. You cant do it twice in your draft year on luck, Slaf impacted the game at a really high level and was pretty consistent shift to shift. Also, his game is more suited for N.A. rinks and N.A. type of hockey, thats the main difference with a kid like Kakko, who was more of a perimeter player, I like your Svechnikov comparison BTW.
 

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I like how Stephane Leroux tried to influence Habs management decision by pulling out his own list that had, of course, Wright 1st OV, like 3 days before the draft, ranking that was preceded by an analytic nerd article pumping Wright's tires big time with porous, biased arguments about his "solid" 200 ft. game.


Well tried RDS! ;)
 
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Treb

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Christer Rockstrom sounds like an idiot.

I had a preconceived notion of him before this video... but it didn't do him any favours. Really basic and weak takes.

Bobrov may have a questionable drafting history, but the guy seems like a great leader who can organize thoughts and strategies in an otherwise chaotic field. Having him paired with a guy with good drafting history (Lapointe has done pretty well so far since he's taken on a bigger role) can help move this ship forward.

Bro, he helped draft Lidstrom, Lundqvist and Arvid Henriksson, you're just a hater.

Is he the one who was talking about the size before boucher stepped in?


Christer Rockstrom claim to fame was being one of the first influential euro scouts. After teams started actually scouting Europe he quickly fell down.

It think it's one reason why Boisvert is now international crossover scout so he can vet Rockstrom's work. Rockstrom has been a scout for 37 years already, he probably retire soon, which may be why they keep him around.
 

Treb

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I like how Stephane Leroux tried to influence Habs management decision by pulling out his own list that had, of course, Wright 1st OV, like 3 days before the draft, ranking that was preceded by an analytic nerd article pumping Wright's tires big time with porous, biased arguments about his "solid" 200 ft. game.


Well tried RDS! ;)

What I learned about Leroux is that while he knows his QMJHL prospects well, he knows quite a bit less about the rest of NA and not much about Europe.

If not a QC player, he'll find another opinion to hold on too to appear knowledgeable. He's basically one of our QMJHL STH poster on steroid, but not much more.

If I want to know more about a QMJHL prospect, I'll look for his take (among others), but for the rest I just ignore him.
 

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Would have liked to see more hockey reasons for drafting Slaf. Unfortunately, this did nothing to make me think they were privy to information the fans didn’t have. I thought it was well-done, but I think their reasons for drafting Slaf were less about talent and more about size and personality. I find that very unfortunate.
Not enough of an in depth piece to make up that opinion, IMO. Projecting.
 

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Just saw the vid. Very good production. It’s a snipet for casual fans. Not for rapid fans like us. I liked it.

Those who complain about Brobov’s ‘hollow’ speeches have probably never taken part in high-executive board meetings. The boss always delivers those types of generalities. He establishes de guidelines. It’s always high-level. He then lets the rest brainstrorm and exchange on ideas. Doesn’t seem very different that what I heard with Transcontinental, Govnmt or any other executive meetings I took part in over the last 35 years.

Plus, it’s a small sample of more than 2 months of work. Take it casually.

My opinion is they wanted to have Boucher shine more than others, and I liked that. Boisvert looked good too, and so did Lapointe. Pas un hasard que ce soit Martin qui ait paru comme le narrateur. Lapointe and Brobov are the scouting bosses.

It was better than the video where Hulk advises the cart girl not to drop chips at their table because they are chessbras. That was pathetic and so archaic. This was good.
 

Treb

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Would have liked to see more hockey reasons for drafting Slaf. Unfortunately, this did nothing to make me think they were privy to information the fans didn’t have. I thought it was well-done, but I think their reasons for drafting Slaf were less about talent and more about size and personality. I find that very unfortunate.

Seems like we watched different videos because they did state talent reasons.

Unless you thinking climbing to prime roles in both the OG and WC (plus his play in the Liiga PO) was just size and personality.

Juraj Kozlov before Shane Daigle. Not exact comparison, but similar vibes.
 

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What I learned about Leroux is that while he knows his QMJHL prospects well, he knows quite a bit less about the rest of NA and not much about Europe.

If not a QC player, he'll find another opinion to hold on too to appear knowledgeable. He's basically one of our QMJHL STH poster on steroid, but not much more.

If I want to know more about a QMJHL prospect, I'll look for his take (among others), but for the rest I just ignore him.
Yeah he knows the Q quite well and has some solid connections, I just found it rather funny and not much subtle how he tried to push for his own 1st OV.

What I like about the new management is that they wont let anyone influence their decisions, I think its pretty clear.
 

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We dont have the same definition of what is talent. Slafkovsky has the smoothest hands in the draft and can deke players at full speed, thats talent.
We saw this in action with his blistering production in the Liiga playoffs. End of the season, he had all the confidence and experiences he needed to be unleashed. He scored almost 0.4ppg 🤩 🤤 imagine those silky mitts in the NHL against NHL level defenders 😱
 
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Great video. Slaf may have gone 1st but you can see he s still a project that needs seasoning. I really hope he plays 0 NHL games this year, regardless of AHL production. Let him develop into a star before he has to deal with the Bell Center spotlight.
I bloody hope so. Or he goes back to Liiga and actually produces there now that he has confidence and has shown he can play with pressure. He needs to prove he can produce against men night in night out before he comes to Montreal.
 

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We saw this in action with his blistering production in the Liiga playoffs. End of the season, he had all the confidence and experiences he needed to be unleashed. He scored almost 0.4ppg 🤩 🤤 imagine those silky mitts in the NHL against NHL level defenders 😱
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Bro, he helped draft Lidstrom, Lundqvist and Arvid Henriksson, you're just a hater.
Yup, this guy is surfing on reputation, he brought us nothing through the years. We have made terrible euro picks, awful.

When I reflect on it, I think I have PTSD on high euro picks. That might be why I'm not ready to surrender my full fandom to Slaf. I've been hurt guys. Or maybe it's because I don't get what Liiga is all about ;).

Slaf will be fine I'm sure, really. But the scouts didn't sell him to me. Bobrov and Christer were totally pro euro (like being the King of Slovakia is more pressure than being dubbed the next canadian golden boy and whatnot) and there was a sense of size that even Boucher mentionned: if you guys can just shoot your wad on size right away, we might be able to have an ok draft this time :laugh:
 

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Great video. Slaf may have gone 1st but you can see he s still a project that needs seasoning. I really hope he plays 0 NHL games this year, regardless of AHL production. Let him develop into a star before he has to deal with the Bell Center spotlight.

Hughes did say they don't want to pick the player based on what he is at 18, but what he'll be when he's 23-24. In other words, it's not about the now, but the later. A reason they took Slaf is also because he's one the most NHL ready among the draftees. But they still didn't take him because of what he is now, but what he will become in a few years.

As for NHL games, if he earns NHL games, he should play there. But it shouldn't be an automatic. If he needs to be in the AHL the whole year, then let him be there all year. But I wouldn't put a limit to him playing zero NHL games.
 

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