Line Combos: HABS 2024 LINE UP

26Mats

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That's just not happening and is not a service to the young player.

DVO also won't be the 2nd line RW when he comes back. That also fails the reality check.


Again, Slaf will not be the 1st line RW
Everything will be determined on the ice. If Slaf isn't ready, he isn't ready... Maybe Dvo plays 1st line re if Slaf isn't ready...
 
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HuGort

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Right now per capfriendly they are $4,727,916 over.

They could:

Send Reinbacher to Europe ($950,000)
Waive DeSmith ($1,150,000) (if they can’t trade him and don’t want to keep 3 goalies on the roster).
Send Barron to Laval ($925,000)

They can do two paper transactions:

RHP to Laval ($1,100,000)
Xhekaj to Laval ($828,333)

This is with Dvorak on IR (not LTIR).

This gets them $225,417 below the Cap.

They can then put Price on LTIR and call RHP and Xhekaj back up.

So that leaves:

forwards (12)

Suzuki
Caufield
Anderson
Dach
Slafkovsky
Gallagher
Ylonen
Pezzetta
Newhook
Armia
Evans
Monahan

Defenceman (7)

Matheson
Savard
Guhle
Harris
Lindstrom
Kovacevic
Wideman

Goalies (2)

Montembeault
Allen

Price and Dvorak on IR

23 player roster when RHP and Xhekaj get called back up.
Does RHP have any options left though? Hate to lose him.
 

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3rd line should be
Slaf-Newhook-Heinemen

Disagree. Slaf should be playing with a mature center. On the Habs, that's Suzuki or Monahan. I'm pretty sure MSL puts him with Monahan. Possible he plays with Dach and Newhook is on the other wing too. Dach/Newhook together fits. Right hand and Left hand guys to take faceoffs.
 

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RHP doesn't need waivers to go to Laval.
In terms of the waivers exempt players, who from this list plays the most in the AHL this year?

I'm going to say Farrell. Does RHP play one AHL game this year? We are talking about Ylonen vs Heineman but isn't RHP in that mix? I know he had a good 2nd half last season but are we being premature thinking he will automatically continue it?

Slaf
Barron
RHP
Heineman
Farrell

Ylonen and Gallagher on our roster has surely created roster challenges with trying to find spots for our NHL ready prospects. I'm not that worried about it because it means we are not rushing players but I do wonder which ones grab a job in the NHL and which ones struggle and need more AHL time
 

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I’m not even sure if Dvorak will go on LTIR (I think he’ll just stay on regular IR) but if he does it will most likely be after the season starts like Price.
Think Hughes will take on bad contract for a first pick? When Price goes on LTIR?
 

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What will we do with Price's 10.5m caphit then? Never be used?

They’ll use it for more flexibility in season and potentially at the trade deadline.

From Hughes below:

If general manager Kent Hughes could manage to get his club right under that number, they’ll be able to place Price on LTIR after the start of the NHL season, giving them the ability to accrue cap space throughout the season, while also having the option to go over the salary cap thanks to Price’s contract.

“We often have discussions and opted against it, which is to avoid going into offseason LTI. When you do that, even if we use 2 million, let’s say, if we put Carey on offseason LTI, his money is gone,” said Hughes regarding the situation. “We lose the flexibility during the year, like last year, with all the injuries and overages, which carry into the following year. With each passing year, we’re going to be more mindful to try not to do that.”


I’m sure if a Monahan trade came along this off-season Hughes would have looked at it but it didn’t for any team. A 2nd was the highest any team got this off-season for taking on Cap dumps.
 

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They’ll use it for more flexibility in season and potentially at the trade deadline.

From Hughes below:

If general manager Kent Hughes could manage to get his club right under that number, they’ll be able to place Price on LTIR after the start of the NHL season, giving them the ability to accrue cap space throughout the season, while also having the option to go over the salary cap thanks to Price’s contract.

“We often have discussions and opted against it, which is to avoid going into offseason LTI. When you do that, even if we use 2 million, let’s say, if we put Carey on offseason LTI, his money is gone,” said Hughes regarding the situation. “We lose the flexibility during the year, like last year, with all the injuries and overages, which carry into the following year. With each passing year, we’re going to be more mindful to try not to do that.”


I’m sure if a Monahan trade came along this off-season Hughes would have looked at it but it didn’t for any team. A 2nd was the highest any team got this off-season for taking on Cap dumps.
I hope he gets another first this draft. In case we have to trade up.
 

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Disagree. Slaf should be playing with a mature center. On the Habs, that's Suzuki or Monahan. I'm pretty sure MSL puts him with Monahan. Possible he plays with Dach and Newhook is on the other wing too. Dach/Newhook together fits. Right hand and Left hand guys to take faceoffs.

20-91 seems to be the most likely duo
14-22
49-17
are the others.
15 w/ 77? or w/ 14-22?

or do we see 20 w/ 14-22 ??!!
 
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3rd line should be
Slaf-Newhook-Heinemen
Would not be a bad line.

But we'd still be lacking a top-6 forward to complete the top lines:

Caufield - Suzuki - ???/Monahan
Monahan/??? - Dach - Anderson
Slafkovsky - Newhook - Heineman
 

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Not top-6, IMO, but could play with Dach, I guess:

Caufield - Suzuki - Monahan
RHP - Dach - Anderson
Slafkovsky - Newhook - Heineman
Armia - Dvorak - Gallagher

The only legitimate top-6players - right now - are the bolded ones.

I don't think RHP or Anderson ever become top-notch top-6 players, but there is hope, still, for Slafkovsky and Newhook.

Roy, eventually, would be nice, because Monahan is rumoured out by the trade deadline and Heineman could replace the ageing Anderson:

Caufield - Suzuki- Roy
Slafkovsky - Dach - Newhook
RHP- Beck - Heineman
 
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Next summer, either at draft or during off season, I think Hughes will overpay to get big piece he needs. Likely giving up a first we acquired at deadline, I think he will acquire 2 extra first by trade deadline. By renting out caproom and trading Monahan. Or trade our own first. Plus a Harris type and solid prospect like Mesar for a young star. A Pettersson type.
 

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That Cap space can still be weaponized at the trade deadline and land a 1st rounder for the draft.
I don't think a 1st has ever been acquired at the TDL for taking on bad cap hits. Plus, we only have one retention spot with which to try to do so.
 
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26Mats

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3rd line should be
Slaf-Newhook-Heinemen

Too inexperienced and it seems Newhook will start off as a winger. I'm hoping he has chemistry with Dach.

But I have the same players in the top 9 as you. Really hoping each of them can secure their spot and push Gally to the 4th line, though I don't expect that to be the case by game 1.
 

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On Sick Podcast they were saying Habs Cup winner by '27 or '28.

Lineup by then be Caufield with Dach and Nylander. Fat chance I see him signing here but no doubt Habs trade for another top line forward. They want Each as #1 center because need big center to win cups. Mentioned a bunch of big #1 centers win cups recently. Suzuki with Slaf and Newhook. Beck third line center. Mysak fourth line center. Tuch they think will be good bottom 6 winger. Style he plays. Heinemann on 4th.line. I think he is too offensively to waste on 4th line. Roy on third line. They don't think RHP will be with team by then.

On blueline it be Rainbacher and Hutson, Guhle/Mailloux, Wifi and Barron. The Swede 7th D.They were saying we will have 8 top 4 defensemen by then. Must be expecting us to take another one this draft.

Goalies they saying we sign Savos. Backup I don't t hink they mentioned but be Dobes to me.

Harris be traded, Mesar either traded or never made it. Never mentioned him. Monty don't think they mentioned him neither.
 

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Caufield-Suzuki-Newhook: The newly acquired player will get the first chance to look good.
Slafkovsky-Dach-Monahan: Slaf looked good with Monahan and 3 massive players in one line.
RHP - Dvorak - Anderson: Andy & RHP played well together. RHP may play AHL since waiver exempt?
Pezz-Evans-Gallagher: Leftover crap.
Armia Ylonen
 
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Think Hughes will take on bad contract for a first pick? When Price goes on LTIR?

I do...

Mantha from Wash if he starts off slow under the new coach

Evans, Ylonen for Mantha, 1st

Myers from Van if they start off well and want to double down on making playoffs

Monahan, Lindstrom for Myers, 1st+

Deals like that where we send back useful, cheaper depth, while taking on the higher cap & getting 1st round asset value (then flipping that UFA with retention or late to the deadline once their PTO rated hit is at its lowest for further assets)
 

HuGort

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I do...

Mantha from Wash if he starts off slow under the new coach

Evans, Ylonen for Mantha, 1st

Myers from Van if they start off well and want to double down on making playoffs

Monahan, Lindstrom for Myers, 1st+

Deals like that where we send back useful, cheaper depth, while taking on the higher cap & getting 1st round asset value (then flipping that UFA with retention or late to the deadline once their PTO rated hit is at its lowest for further assets)
Both you mean? Trading both Monahan and Evans will leave Habs center thin to finish season
 

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