Line Combos: HABS 2024 LINE UP

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Caufield-Suzuki-Anderson
Newhook-Dach-RHP
Slaf-Monahan-Ylonen
Armia-Evans-Gallagher

Pez,Dvorak(IR)

Matheson Savard
Guhle Petry
Xhekaj Barron

Harris, Kovacevic

Montembeault
DeSmith
Allen


Honestly, neither Slaf or Ylonen might even make the team if guys like Heineman or Farrell outplay them in pre-season.

Laval is gonna be fun to watch either way.
Hoping Heineman can beat out Slaf for his spot so Slaf can go to Laval.

Ideally Slaf takes a huge leap but Heineman still beats him out.

That’s a win win
 

Miller Time

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I'm loving the healthy competition shaping up for camp...

At C, Suzuki is the only "lock" in his spot.

Dach, Monahan, Dvorak (when healthy) & Evans pushing for the other 2 top 9 C spots (perhaps Newhook as well) & with Beck, Farrell & Andersson long shots but I'm sure coming to camp with the dream of earning an opening night NHL spot.

At W, Caufield is the only real top 6 lock.

Anderson, Gally & Armia the vets all motivated to solidify a top 6 or 9 spot.

That's 4 of 8 slots, then the fun...
Newhook, Slaf, Ylonen, Heineman, RHP, Pezetta, Roy, Mesar, Legare plus whichever of the 5 vet C's starts at W.

Sure, it's not a contending roster, but with legitimately 4 top 6 spots wide open, and at least 3 opening night forward spots to be claimed by a young player who wasn't an NHL regular last year, the competitive environment will be intense.

Same on D.
2-3 spots up for grabs that Guhle, Barron, Harris, Xhekaj & Kovacevic will be fighting for.

Going to be the most interesting camp/pre-season in years!
 

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I'm loving the healthy competition shaping up for camp...

At C, Suzuki is the only "lock" in his spot.

Dach, Monahan, Dvorak (when healthy) & Evans pushing for the other 2 top 9 C spots (perhaps Newhook as well) & with Beck, Farrell & Andersson long shots but I'm sure coming to camp with the dream of earning an opening night NHL spot.

At W, Caufield is the only real top 6 lock.

Anderson, Gally & Armia the vets all motivated to solidify a top 6 or 9 spot.

That's 4 of 8 slots, then the fun...
Newhook, Slaf, Ylonen, Heineman, RHP, Pezetta, Roy, Mesar, Legare plus whichever of the 5 vet C's starts at W.

Sure, it's not a contending roster, but with legitimately 4 top 6 spots wide open, and at least 3 opening night forward spots to be claimed by a young player who wasn't an NHL regular last year, the competitive environment will be intense.

Same on D.
2-3 spots up for grabs that Guhle, Barron, Harris, Xhekaj & Kovacevic will be fighting for.

Going to be the most interesting camp/pre-season in years!
I like Dvorak on the first line to help with defensive load and improve the faceoff and possession stats. I thinkj offence wil not suffer if possession is better and less time spent in our own zone. I also expect Dvorak to be traded within 12 months. At the same time, the 2nd and third lines are scoring threats too.

Dvorak-Suzuki-Caufield
Newhook-Dach-Anderson
Slafkovsky-Monahan-Gallagher
RHP-Evans-Ylonen/Armia
extras: Armia/Ylonen, Pezzetta

Matheson-Barron
Guhle-Petry
Xhekaj/Harriàs-Savard
extras: Harris/Xhekaj, Kovacevic

Montembeault, Allen/deSmith

I have four spares because I highly doubt we ever have zero injuries, but if we have to go down to three, then I would like a meritocracy to operate
 
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Lockin17

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we need a first line RW

RW is pretty sad
Anderson
Gally
Armia
Pezzeta

LW is stacked
CC
Slaf
Newhook
RHP

Center is stacked as well can even spare a center to get a better RW like Dach
Suzuki
Dach
Monahan
Dvorak
Evans

CC-Suzuki-Dach (is a no brainer to me)
RHP-Monahan-Newhook ( i see RHP and Newhook having the speed together)
Slaf-Dvorak-Anderson (line with size,)
Pezzeta-Evans-Gally (grid line)
Armia- Ylonen
 
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26Mats

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we need a first line RW

RW is pretty sad
Anderson
Gally
Armia
Pezzeta

LW is stacked
CC
Slaf
Newhook
RHP

Center is stacked as well can even spare a center to get a better RW like Dach
Suzuki
Dach
Monahan
Dvorak
Evans

CC-Suzuki-Dach (is a no brainer to me)
RHP-Monahan-Newhook ( i see RHP and Newhook having the speed together)
Slaf-Dvorak-Anderson (line with size,)
Pezzeta-Evans-Gally (grid line)
Armia- Ylonen
I would have liked to have acquired Hall or Tarasenko to play with Suzuki and Caufield, and then flipped them at the TDL for a 1st...

I think Newhook or Slaf will play RW. MSL likes to play wingers on their off wing...

I'd like to continue developing Dach at C. If he doesn't produce well, sure, I'm happy to put him back on the wing with Suzuki and Caufield. But developing at C is the priority if he's ready...

To me I really don't want our young wingers playing with Dvo at C and I really want to play Dvo on the wing with good offensive players to try to get his production and trade value up...

Those are my 14 forwards that make the team. Will be interesting to see, with Dvo out to start the year, if they start with 13 forwards or if a young guy like Heineman starts in MTL.
 
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Lockin17

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I would have liked to have acquired Hall or Tarasenko to play with Suzuki and Caufield, and then flipped them at the TDL for a 1st...

I think Newhook or Slaf will play RW. MSL likes to play wingers on their off wing...

I'd like to continue developing Dach at C. If he doesn't produce well, sure, I'm happy to put him back on the wing with Suzuki and Caufield. But developing at C is the priority if he's ready...

To me I really don't want our young wingers playing with Dvo at C and I really want to play Dvo on the wing with good offensive players to try to get his production and trade value up...

Those are my 14 forwards that make the team. Will be interesting to see, with Dvo out to start the year, if they start with 13 forwards or if a young guy like Heineman starts in MTL.
if i follow your logic your line up would look a bit like this

CC-Suzuki-Newhook
Dvorak-Dach-Anderson
RHP-Monahan-Slaf
Pezzeta-Evans-Gally
 

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Getting Heinemann and Slaf both on LW is tough, would be sweet if he could play right wing. I’d slap Monahan between the two and give them 3rd line minutes for a try.
 
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Yup, I fear the attacks and attention he will get. It will be even more when Hoffman and Armia are gone. We always have someone on our radar I guess.

That 30+ contract coming after a value contract in his prime was not probable to be a good deal. It is what it is.
Why do you fear the attacks and attention. His contract has put a HUGE BULLSEYE on the player. The attacks in terms of his play are justified and the attention can't be helped thank The Maestro for that. The only thing I fear is that we will continually have to play him above his station.
 

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if i follow your logic your line up would look a bit like this

CC-Suzuki-Newhook
Dvorak-Dach-Anderson
RHP-Monahan-Slaf
Pezzeta-Evans-Gally
Exactly that except Ylonen in Pez's spot and I would swap Newhook and Dvo, because I think Newhook-Suzuki-Caufield is too small. I would probably also swap Slaf and Anderson just because of how good RHP was for Anderson. But on the other hand if he was that good for Anderson, I think he could be that good for Slaf as well.

But the details and the chemistry will be determined in time.
 

Lockin17

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Exactly that except Ylonen in Pez's spot and I would swap Newhook and Dvo, because I think Newhook-Suzuki-Caufield is too small. I would probably also swap Slaf and Anderson just because of how good RHP was for Anderson. But on the other hand if he was that good for Anderson, I think he could be that good for Slaf as well.

But the details and the chemistry will be determined in time.
Nahh Pezetta brings a lot more then Ylonen, and if you want to play Ylonen it's not the fourth line you wanna put him on but second at worse third line, he is not a fourth liner.
4th liners bring grid and piss the other team off in my book, Pezz and Gally bring that intensety , not Ylonen.

Dvorak on the first line is a insult to the other 2 players, they want to play with similar talent, not bring a lousy player up so the team can trade him.
 
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Nahh Pezetta brings a lot more then Ylonen, and if you want to play Ylonen it's not the fourth line you wanna put him on but second at worse third line, he is not a fourth liner.
4th liners bring grid and piss the other team off in my book, Pezz and Gally bring that intensety , not Ylonen.

Dvorak on the first line is a insult to the other 2 players, they want to play with similar talent, not bring a lousy player up so the team can trade him.
Hopefully Dvo could be moved asap if he produces...

I liked Ylonen-Evans-Gally a lot when they were played together last year at the end of the year. I think it's just fine for Ylonen to start there and see where he goes from there. Plekanec started on the 4th line when he was a relatively elderly rookie.
 

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Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Newhook-Dach-Anderson
RHP-Monahan-Gallagher
Pezzetta-Evans-Armia
Ylonen

Guhle-Petry*
Matheson-Savard
Xhekaj-Barron
Harris-Kovacevic

Allen
Montembault

IR: Dvorak

*I think the probability that Petry gets traded before the season is high, but I've got him in the lineup for now.
 

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Would like to see:
Caufield - Suzuki - Monahan
Newhook - Dach - Slaf
RHP - Dvorak - Anderson
Ylonen - Evans - Gally
Armia, Pezz

Matheson - Barron
Guhle - Kovacevic
Xhekaj/Harris - Savard

But realistically, I expect Slaf/Anderson and Kovy/Savard to switch
 

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Those are my predictions for this year's team.

imo Ylonen gets waived. No purpose on this team long term. He probably becomes a 30 pt guy on bad teams for a couple of years then NLA star.

Pezz will be kept at the start but ultimately will be dumped at some point in the rebuild. Outside shot at Heineman taking his spot in training camp.

Dvo, Savard, Matheson will all be kept to be vets in the next year to keep some structure.

Barron and Kovacevic will fight for last RD spot in TC. Loser gets waived/sent to Laval

Reinbacher makes the team

Xhekaj gets sent to Laval after Harris beats him in TC imo.

Petry and DeSmith get traded at some point between now and the start of the RS

The elite 6 for this young team right now is Suzuki-Caufield-Slaf-Newhook-Guhle-Dach.

RHP will have a very good season for the team and will cement his spot as a top 6 guy.

RHP - Suzuki - Anderson
Newhook - Dach - Caufield
Slafkovsky - Dvorak - Monahan
Heineman - Evans - Gally
Armia
Pezzetta

Matheson - Kovacevic
Guhle - Savard
Harris - Reinbacher


Montembeault
Allen
 

BaseballCoach

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CC is a LW , what i am saying we need a rw to play with CC and Suzuki
That's ok, if we like tanking. It will also help build character for Montembeault and whoever else defends our goal to have MOAR shots against and MOAR time pinned in own zone.

Those are my predictions for this year's team.

imo Ylonen gets waived. No purpose on this team long term. He probably becomes a 30 pt guy on bad teams for a couple of years then NLA star.

Pezz will be kept at the start but ultimately will be dumped at some point in the rebuild. Outside shot at Heineman taking his spot in training camp.

Dvo, Savard, Matheson will all be kept to be vets in the next year to keep some structure.

Barron and Kovacevic will fight for last RD spot in TC. Loser gets waived/sent to Laval

Reinbacher makes the team

Xhekaj gets sent to Laval after Harris beats him in TC imo.

Petry and DeSmith get traded at some point between now and the start of the RS

The elite 6 for this young team right now is Suzuki-Caufield-Slaf-Newhook-Guhle-Dach.

RHP will have a very good season for the team and will cement his spot as a top 6 guy.

RHP - Suzuki - Anderson
Newhook - Dach - Caufield
Slafkovsky - Dvorak - Monahan
Heineman - Evans - Gally
Armia
Pezzetta

Matheson - Kovacevic
Guhle - Savard
Harris - Reinbacher


Montembeault
Allen
LOL at Guhle over Matheson RIGHT NOW.

Slaf, Newhook far from elite so far, and Dach is close perhaps but not proven yet.
 

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That's ok, if we like tanking. It will also help build character for Montembeault and whoever else defends our goal to have MOAR shots against and MOAR time pinned in own zone.


LOL at Guhle over Matheson RIGHT NOW.

Slaf, Newhook far from elite so far, and Dach is close perhaps but not proven yet.
I meant the elite 6 in the players that are currently in the lineup that we will be building around. If Reinbacher makes the team it becomes a 7. This was no slight on Matheson at all. Based on his play at the end of last season he is currently the best player on this team.
 
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Caufield - Suzuki - Dach

Harvey-Pinard - Monahan - Gallagher

Newhook - Dvorak - Anderson

Slafkovský - Evans - Armia

Ylönen - Pezzetta


Matheson - Petry

Harris - Savard

Guhle - Kovacevic


DeSmith - Allen - Montembeault
 
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BaseballCoach

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I meant the elite 6 in the players that are currently in the lineup that we will be building around. If Reinbacher makes the team it becomes a 7. This was no sight on Matheson at all. Based on his play at the end of last season he is currently the best player on this team.
We can build around Matheson too, certainly for the next 3 years, and if three youngsters come on like gangbusters and knock him down to #4, we can trade him - his contract is not bad at all.

Once again, a first round talent.
 
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Nahh Pezetta brings a lot more then Ylonen, and if you want to play Ylonen it's not the fourth line you wanna put him on but second at worse third line, he is not a fourth liner.
4th liners bring grid and piss the other team off in my book, Pezz and Gally bring that intensety , not Ylonen.

Dvorak on the first line is a insult to the other 2 players, they want to play with similar talent, not bring a lousy player up so the team can trade him.
Yeah if I see Dvorak on the first line I'm turning off the TV. I love when people think you can showcase limited talent.
 
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Scriptor

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I like Dvorak on the first line to help with defensive load and improve the faceoff and possession stats. I thinkj offence wil not suffer if possession is better and less time spent in our own zone. I also expect Dvorak to be traded within 12 months. At the same time, the 2nd and third lines are scoring threats too.

Dvorak-Suzuki-Caufield
Newhook-Dach-Anderson
Slafkovsky-Monahan-Gallagher
RHP-Evans-Ylonen/Armia
extras: Armia/Ylonen, Pezzetta

Matheson-Barron
Guhle-Petry
Xhekaj/Harriàs-Savard
extras: Harris/Xhekaj, Kovacevic

Montembeault, Allen/deSmith

I have four spares because I highly doubt we ever have zero injuries, but if we have to go down to three, then I would like a meritocracy to operate
Dvorak on the first line does not enable Caufield and Suzuki to take the next step in their development. IMO, that's a horrible decision more intent on raising Dvorak's value than helping the other two players progress, which should be the first goal of the team, not getting Dvorak's value to raise only marginally.
 
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Those are my predictions for this year's team.

imo Ylonen gets waived. No purpose on this team long term. He probably becomes a 30 pt guy on bad teams for a couple of years then NLA star.

Pezz will be kept at the start but ultimately will be dumped at some point in the rebuild. Outside shot at Heineman taking his spot in training camp.

Dvo, Savard, Matheson will all be kept to be vets in the next year to keep some structure.

Barron and Kovacevic will fight for last RD spot in TC. Loser gets waived/sent to Laval

Reinbacher makes the team

Xhekaj gets sent to Laval after Harris beats him in TC imo.

Petry and DeSmith get traded at some point between now and the start of the RS

The elite 6 for this young team right now is Suzuki-Caufield-Slaf-Newhook-Guhle-Dach.

RHP will have a very good season for the team and will cement his spot as a top 6 guy.

RHP - Suzuki - Anderson
Newhook - Dach - Caufield
Slafkovsky - Dvorak - Monahan
Heineman - Evans - Gally
Armia
Pezzetta

Matheson - Kovacevic
Guhle - Savard
Harris - Reinbacher


Montembeault
Allen
I'll go with you as a thinking outside the box approach -- which this either is, or is illogical.

There was chemistry at the end of last season between RHP and Anderson, so I could go with Suzuki as their C to get that going again, but that could, in no way, also be the team's top line. It would have to be the 2nd line, IMO and we would b=need to supercharge the 1st line with Dach at C.

Monahan - Dach - Caufield
RHP - Suzuki - Anderson
Slafkovsky - Newhook - Heineman
Armia - Dvorak - Gally
Evans
Pezzetta

Matheson - Kovacevic
Guhle - Savard
Xhekaj - Harris


Montembeault
Allen

No way Reinbacher makes the team this season. The Habs are not repeating the Slafkovsky situation.

Barron starting the season in the AHL makes sense, with him ahead of Mailloux on the right side of D, at least to start the season, in Laval.
 

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