Horse Racing: Gulfstream Park (FL) Sunshine Meet ends, Championship Meet begins -- Dylan Davis heads to Florida; Baffert debuts a $3.2 million colt at CD on Nov. 27

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Del Mar 5: $.50 Pick 5 paid an enormous sum: $353,000+.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

$38 million bet at Del Mar so far.

 

[PANARIN BREAD FAN]

looking at that 4 horse's pp's - not a pig after all. the firmer the turf the more positive this horse will respond. that move in santa anita was the tip off. oh wel... next race.

 

[PANARIN BREAD FAN]

thorpedo anna-horse of the year?

 

[GKJ]

 

[GKJ]

thorpedo anna-horse of the year?

Probably. Wish I made it out to see her.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

$55 million bet at Del Mar through race 7.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Flavien Prat just clinched Jockey of the Year.

 

[GKJ]

Wow half mile in 45

 

[GKJ]

Fastest pace in BC Classic history.

Sierra Leone was the winner. Chad Brown and, again, Flavien Prat

 

[GKJ]

Hold up, there’s like 4 more races?

I never checked the schedule

 

[PANARIN BREAD FAN]

prat is king

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Flavien Prat just followed the Classic victory with another win and with a horse bred in Canada. He should win Jockey of the Year with some comfort now.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Del Mar has done roughly $160 million in handle combined the last two days with two races remaining. Last year's total was $176 million.

 

[PANARIN BREAD FAN]

straight no chaser...well today he somehow figured out how to chase and win today.

 

[PANARIN BREAD FAN]

finally!!! rosario for the very first time ever didn't let me down. 3-8 exacta bang!!!

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Dammit. I had Posty on top. The Russells came in second with a driving finish.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

The totals I heard were combined figures. As such, $179 million was bet on the 2-day Breeders' Cup weekend which is the third highest mark.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

More betting figures from Saturday's Breeders' Cup card:

S106.7 million bet Saturday was up 4% from 2023.

The Classic handle was $17.4 million ($24.5 million with exotics) and that was up 15.4% from 2023. The shift to an earlier post time seemed to aid.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Tuesday, November 5, 2024

Flemington Racecourse (Melbourne, Australia):

• Knight's Choice (Robbie Dolan/John Symonds and Sheila Laxon) shocked a nation by winning the 164th running of the $5.6 million (U.S.) Melbourne Cup at the unlikely odds of 90-to-1. Among the defeated was Japan-entry Warp Speed (Akira Sugawara/----) who lost by mere inches. The Melbourne Cup is known as The Race That Stops A Nation as locals commonly watch the mid-Tuesday afternoon race. Knight's Choice, an Australian by birth, was originally purchased for $1,000 and later sold for $85,000.

Melbourne Cup 2024 full finishing order
Source: Irish Mirror
1. Knight's Choice 100/1

2. Warp Speed 25/1

3. Okita Soushi 18/1

4. Zardozi 11/1

5. Absurde 15/2

6. Circle of Fire 25/1

7. Fancy Man 66/1

8. Land Legend 12/1

9. Buckaroo 4/1 f

10. Kovalica 22/1

11. Vauban 6/1

12. Onesmoothoperator 5/1

13. Valiant King 80/1

14. Sea King 11/1

15. Interpretation 20/1

16. Sharp ’n’ Smart 50/1

17. Trust in You 66/1

18. Mostly Cloudy 66/1

19. Manzoice 100/1

20. Positivity 100/1

21. The Map 28/1

22. Saint George 20/1

23. Just Fine 40/1

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[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Wednesday, November 6, 2024

Mahoning Valley (Ohio):

• Race 5: Certainly, one of the most fortuitous payouts I have seen this year nut a daily double paid $1,170 with 10-1 and 12-1 shots winning. Only $3,000 or so in the pool. That bettor should be ecstatic.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

While the potent Breeders' Cup was held in November, numbers are down in the industry this year across many categories.

 

[PANARIN BREAD FAN]

While the potent Breeders' Cup was held in November, numbers are down in the industry this year across many categories.

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is there a shortage of owners? old ones that may have passed away, or lack of new owners entering the industry, or even both? also are costs increasing regarding stalls, trainer's fees, feed, etc?

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

is there a shortage of owners? old ones that may have passed away, or lack of new owners entering the industry, or even both? also are costs increasing regarding stalls, trainer's fees, feed, etc?

Depends on the jurisdiction. New York is costly. California has become geographically undesirable. Florida is seasonal and while weather is attractive much of the year, there is a falloff in the summer. Arkansas is hot and growing but mostly a winter/spring destination.
Available races as a whole are down from 20 years ago. Breeding is lagging due to costs. The glut of super trainers doesn't support the person whose means are lacking by comparison. Ultimately, bettors prefer larger field sizes yet that is a concern because the reduced breeding and the inevitable scratches cause frustration and displeasure. The involvement of HISA has supporters and detractors with legislation causing consternation in some corners.

Maryland will be reducing race days next year and while that stings, the lesser races there could boost field sizes in nearby places such as Virginia and maybe Delaware, New Jersey and Philly; mostly though at Colonial due to the turf course.

New York has become Chad Brown's playground, especially multiple horses in turf races and that can be a turnoff.

It isn't at crisis mode just yet but some ingenuity is needed. If places like California and even Texas eventually allow sports betting, maybe that enhances the sport depending on the language and if it relates to parimutual betting. The time of the C-virus oddly aides racing as it was a rare sport ongoing thus the betting numbers were exaggerated.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

The Melbourne Cup Carnival at Flemington (Australia) lasts November 2 through November 9 with four racing days listed in Australia as:

• Saturday November 2, 2024
• Tuesday November 5, 2024
• Thursday November 7, 2024
• Saturday November 9, 2024

November 8, 2024 (in the US)

Race #	Purse	Race Type	Distance	Surface	Starters	Est. Post
1	$151,825	Handicap	1M	Turf	11	8:40 PM
2	$502,000	Stakes	5F	Turf	11	9:15 PM
3	$303,025	Stakes	1 5/8M	Turf	11	9:50 PM
4	$176,825	Handicap	6F	Turf	16	10:30 PM
5	$304,425	Stakes	1 1/4M	Turf	18	11:10 PM
6	$3,005,325	Stakes	6F	Turf	12	11:50 PM
7	$3,005,325	Stakes	1M	Turf	13	12:30 AM
8	$3,010,325	Stakes	1 1/4M	Turf	12	1:10 AM
9	$151,825	Handicap	5 1/4F	Turf	19	1:50 AM