Forling's $5.75 mill aav looks like a steal, but it's also only $1 mill in salary and the rest in Bonuses. So, that would be taxed at the FLA state tax. So, structure matters as does trade protection.
You’ve had two posts that the Canes are being “odd” or “unreasonable” just on this page!
I think contract structure is probably the biggest issue. Guentzel is probably seeking a NMC throughout the contract, and maximized signing-bonuses (which are paid regardless of a player being bought out or not).
If he really does sign for 8x8 then Dubas shouldn't have traded him. Will be pretty annoyed lol
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How is it weird they put an offer in and are waiting for his camp?Latest from Pierre LeBrun:
Let’s start with Jake Guentzel, who would be the most sought-after forward if he goes to market.The Carolina Hurricanes have had the full-court press on all week trying to bridge the gap, and according to league sources, increased their latest offer to eight years at $8 million per season. That’s in the ballpark, I believe, of what Guentzel’s camp originally wanted when this discussion began several weeks ago.But as of Friday morning, the Canes were still waiting for an answer from Guentzel’s camp, led by veteran agent Ben Hankinson. So we’ll see where this goes, but I wonder if it might be too alluring for Guentzel to dip his toes into free agency Monday while still leaving the door open on a Hurricanes return, knowing what’s on the table from them.I’m not sure how this one will end, but it’s in a delicate and fascinating place.There are whispers that Vancouver might be willing to go seven years and $9 million a season for Guentzel, but that’s unconfirmed at this point. Obviously there would be a long list of suitors for Guentzel regardless if he goes to market.LeBrun rumblings: Latest on Guentzel, Stamkos, Kane and Marchessault ahead of the NHL Draft
Also the latest on the Golden Knights and Jonathan Marchessault, and the Detroit Red Wings and Patrick Kane.
I'll reiterate my opinion again. It's weird that Carolina has "met the offer" and they are waiting in silence. Pierre LeBrun is picking up on it too.
They met the offer from weeks ago. The obvious implication is this close to free agency his agent has been talking around the league and wants to move the goal posts. I’m missing the “weird”.Latest from Pierre LeBrun:
Let’s start with Jake Guentzel, who would be the most sought-after forward if he goes to market.The Carolina Hurricanes have had the full-court press on all week trying to bridge the gap, and according to league sources, increased their latest offer to eight years at $8 million per season. That’s in the ballpark, I believe, of what Guentzel’s camp originally wanted when this discussion began several weeks ago.But as of Friday morning, the Canes were still waiting for an answer from Guentzel’s camp, led by veteran agent Ben Hankinson. So we’ll see where this goes, but I wonder if it might be too alluring for Guentzel to dip his toes into free agency Monday while still leaving the door open on a Hurricanes return, knowing what’s on the table from them.I’m not sure how this one will end, but it’s in a delicate and fascinating place.There are whispers that Vancouver might be willing to go seven years and $9 million a season for Guentzel, but that’s unconfirmed at this point. Obviously there would be a long list of suitors for Guentzel regardless if he goes to market.LeBrun rumblings: Latest on Guentzel, Stamkos, Kane and Marchessault ahead of the NHL Draft
Also the latest on the Golden Knights and Jonathan Marchessault, and the Detroit Red Wings and Patrick Kane.
I'll reiterate my opinion again. It's weird that Carolina has "met the offer" and they are waiting in silence. Pierre LeBrun is picking up on it too.
It does, salary is bonus + base. Front loading contracts isn’t much of a thing anymore because of how cap recapture works.
Your understanding is correct, that is how they amended it in the 2022 MOU to extend the CBA until 2026 (Rule #67).
It still is, if you're in position to negotiate it for yourself. 10 million dollars today is much more than 10 million dollars in five years, especially if you factor in that you invest it and get the profits through those five years.
| SEASON | CLAUSE | CAP HIT
| AAV
| P. BONUSES
| S. BONUSES
| BASE SALARY
| TOTAL SALARY
| MINORS SAL
|
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024-25 | NMC | $13,250,000 | $13,250,000 | $0 | $15,925,000 | $775,000 | $16,700,000 | $16,700,000 |
| 2025-26 | NMC | $13,250,000 | $13,250,000 | $0 | $14,425,000 | $775,000 | $15,200,000 | $15,200,000 |
| 2026-27 | NMC | $13,250,000 | $13,250,000 | $0 | $10,180,000 | $900,000 | $11,080,000 | $11,080,000 |
| 2027-28 | NMC | $13,250,000 | $13,250,000 | $0 | $9,120,000 | $900,000 | $10,020,000 | $10,020,000 |
| TOTAL | $53,000,000 | $53,000,000 | $0 | $49,650,000 | $3,350,000 | $53,000,000 | $53,000,000 |
