Guelph Storm 2018-19 Season Thread

[RoyalCitySlicker]

Thanks for the info. Too bad he couldn't have suited up here.

Probably didn't want to have to share a dressing room with 'the enigma'.

 

[storm surge]

Thanks for the info. Too bad he couldn't have suited up here.

Probably didn't want to have to share a dressing room with 'the enigma'.

bingo.. nor did his agent no doubt..

 

[storm surge]

Look up the term "sample size". Popovich and Primeau have had nice little runs of late....not to mention Primeau's being predicated on being given a larger role on the team which, as someone pointed out, he did not earn here. The past two weeks aren't enough for my to throw out the previous seasons worth of data. I'm not saying that what you've posted couldn't be true, just that you're really jumping the gun here IMO.



I'm pretty sure the horse won't be limping anywhere; you've sufficiently beaten it to death.

oh ...this isn't done .. by any means... mwaahahahahaha!

 

[GEO1050101]

Surprised how little Ottawa gave up for Dipietro. Maybe we should have been in the mix.

 

[HockeyPops]

Just wondering why Bertuzzi's stock has dropped so much? Went second overall in the "O" but only projected to go late rounds in the NHL?

 

[storm surge]

Just wondering why Bertuzzi's stock has dropped so much? Went second overall in the "O" but only projected to go late rounds in the NHL?

idiot coaching mgmt.. ownership .... thats the nub of it

 

[TrueBlueStorm]

Bertuzzi- he's an 01 on a veteran team with 10 older forwards, missed 25 games last year due to injury and has worst +/- among all forwards on team.
Also seems to lack the compete level Todd and Tyler had.
Needs to elevate his game at both ends of rink.
Has shown talent at times but needs more consistency.
Just my opinion.

 

[HockeyPops]

How is it that Guelph has 5 sixteen year olds on their roster? I thought there was a limit unless you traded for them (you didn't)?

 

[EON]

How is it that Guelph has 5 sixteen year olds on their roster? I thought there was a limit unless you traded for them (you didn't)?

I'm guessing McFarlane or Profaca are on "B" cards and just being used as call-ups, thus don't count to the limit of 4, but someone with more depth of knowledge on this could clarify.

 

[thenumbersguy]

Just wondering why Bertuzzi's stock has dropped so much? Went second overall in the "O" but only projected to go late rounds in the NHL?

Like TrueBlueStorm said, I gave him the benefit of the doubt becasue of the missed games last year that affected his development. At the start of this year, he came out flying as was showing a stronger game. But lately as was said, he hasn't stepped up his game to play with more urgency, fortitude or desire. As Brian Burke once said he lacks truculence.

As for the coaching impact on him, I think Burnett has given him plenty of opportunities in all situations. As the old saying says, you can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink, Bert is not drinking, if he wants to get to the next level, he needs to start putting in the effort in practice to work on his weaknesses. I read an article yesterday where Paul Coffey (Edmonton Oilers Player Development Advisor) spoke of how Connor McDavid is alway first on the ice and working his game, even his skating which is one of his strongest assets. Players can't expect the coach to help them all the time, sometimes they need to take the bull by the horns and do it themselves.

The analogy I use is a teacher in the classroom, they can't babysit all the students every minute, they must expect every student to take the basics and then continue to use that to improve their overall performance.
Bertuzzi has been playing hockey all his life, in the past his skill level has been higher than the level he's playing, but at some point you can't get by on just raw talent because there are others that you will face that are more talented than you. That's when you need to put in the extra effort to work on the things that need improvement. A coach can't do that for you, he can point it out, but its the player that needs to accept the constructive criticism and feed off it to get better.

That's where Bertuzzi is right now, he needs to put the extra effort to rise above the rest. I have seen flashes of his play that warranted his 2nd overall pick, now go out and put the effort in to justify it.

 

[RoyalCitySlicker]

Like TrueBlueStorm said, I gave him the benefit of the doubt becasue of the missed games last year that affected his development. At the start of this year, he came out flying as was showing a stronger game. But lately as was said, he hasn't stepped up his game to play with more urgency, fortitude or desire. As Brian Burke once said he lacks truculence.

As for the coaching impact on him, I think Burnett has given him plenty of opportunities in all situations. As the old saying says, you can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink, Bert is not drinking, if he wants to get to the next level, he needs to start putting in the effort in practice to work on his weaknesses. I read an article yesterday where Paul Coffey (Edmonton Oilers Player Development Advisor) spoke of how Connor McDavid is alway first on the ice and working his game, even his skating which is one of his strongest assets. Players can't expect the coach to help them all the time, sometimes they need to take the bull by the horns and do it themselves.

The analogy I use is a teacher in the classroom, they can't babysit all the students every minute, they must expect every student to take the basics and then continue to use that to improve their overall performance.
Bertuzzi has been playing hockey all his life, in the past his skill level has been higher than the level he's playing, but at some point you can't get by on just raw talent because there are others that you will face that are more talented than you. That's when you need to put in the extra effort to work on the things that need improvement. A coach can't do that for you, he can point it out, but its the player that needs to accept the constructive criticism and feed off it to get better.

That's where Bertuzzi is right now, he needs to put the extra effort to rise above the rest. I have seen flashes of his play that warranted his 2nd overall pick, now go out and put the effort in to justify it.

Great post!

Some let their hatred (warranted or not) cloud their analysis of all issues.

This is not on the coach, it's on the player. Not to mention, I think you'll find he probably wasn't the consensus #2 that year, but it was who the Storm knew they could get.

As was pointed out about McDavid, similar can be said for Crosby (faceoffs) and most recently Matthews (his shot)...even though they are already at the top of their profession, they are always working on new things.

Tag should get in touch with his cousin to find out what it takes to make it in this league. Love him or hate him, Tyler's story is one of hard work and perseverance. Success followed.

 

[storm surge]

Just wondering why Bertuzzi's stock has dropped so much? Went second overall in the "O" but only projected to go late rounds in the NHL?

you'll only get respose following a certain narrative.. the rest just ..... disappears....

 

[GEO1050101]

Congrats Issac, good luck in Victoria, do us Storm fans proud!

 

[OHLFan90]

Friday Primer: Push to World Junior Camps

 

[GEO1050101]

Three goals on eleven shots won't cut it.

 

[Billyjack]

How about Bertuzzi and picks to Rangers for Yantsis and Gareffa

 

[soo hound girl]

If you guys want to make a run they should consider trading Mercly I know he has skill but watching him last night he gives off a bad vibe to your team.
Get a more reliable defensive minded Dman and I think that would improve sometimes subtracting and then adding makes all the difference in the world

 

[storm surge]

Three goals on eleven shots won't cut it.

nor will his D cut it ..or the D strategy..

 

[storm surge]

If you guys want to make a run they should consider trading Mercly I know he has skill but watching him last night he gives off a bad vibe to your team.
Get a more reliable defensive minded Dman and I think that would improve sometimes subtracting and then adding makes all the difference in the world

YYYYYUP!..10:4 on that..

 

[storm surge]

How about Bertuzzi and picks to Rangers for Yantsis and Gareffa

in 2 years with real coaching mgmt;.. he'll be bulling into zones like his DAD.. heez gonna be real scary solid... may have to move elsewhere though .. this admin is infected with idiots..

 

[hocknow]

in 2 years with real coaching mgmt;.. he'll be bulling into zones like his DAD.. heez gonna be real scary solid... may have to move elsewhere though .. this admin is infected with idiots..

I see only an expectation of entitlement from 24. He has been on the power play unit all year and is given some of the best players to play with. Based on play and stats he would never have been given all this. It is time to reward players that show not “should” show. He is 11th in points out of 12 forwards and -9. The only forward behind him is collins who played like 5 games. Have seen two years of this now.

PLAYER	G	A	PTS	+/-
Nate Schnarr	15	23	38	7
Ryan Merkley	4	33	37	4
Isaac Ratcliffe	19	14	33	8
Liam Hawel	11	13	24	0
Cedric Ralph	9	14	23	7
Cam Hillis	8	12	20	-4
Barret Kirwin	6	10	16	11
Domenico Commisso	3	13	16	-3
Alexey Toropchenko	6	7	13	-11
Dmitri Samorukov	1	12	13	4
Zach Poirier	6	5	11	6
Keegan Stevenson	7	3	10	-1
Tag Bertuzzi	4	5	9	-9
Owen Lalonde	1	8	9	-12
Daniil Chayka	3	5	8	10
Jack Hanley	2	5	7	-2
Mark Woolley	2	3	5	7

[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[storm surge]

I see only an expectation of entitlement from 24. He has been on the power play unit all year and is given some of the best players to play with. Based on play and stats he would never have been given all this. It is time to reward players that show not “should” show. Have seen two years of this now.

PLAYER	G	A	PTS	+/-
Nate Schnarr	15	23	38	7
Ryan Merkley	4	33	37	4
Isaac Ratcliffe	19	14	33	8
Liam Hawel	11	13	24	0
Cedric Ralph	9	14	23	7
Cam Hillis	8	12	20	-4
Barret Kirwin	6	10	16	11
Domenico Commisso	3	13	16	-3
Alexey Toropchenko	6	7	13	-11
Dmitri Samorukov	1	12	13	4
Zach Poirier	6	5	11	6
Keegan Stevenson	7	3	10	-1
Tag Bertuzzi	4	5	9	-9
Owen Lalonde	1	8	9	-12
Daniil Chayka	3	5	8	10
Jack Hanley	2	5	7	-2
Mark Woolley	2	3	5	7

[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

this team enviroment has been anything but stable or healthy...in developing.. plus I see a bit of slow devel...but when he comes here in a year or two if traded... he'll devour this club.. what's to look at 2 years down the road here../?. besides the new russ. D Chayka...if they don't ruin him..and maybe one or two others;...NOT MUCH..

 

[storm surge]

I see only an expectation of entitlement from 24. He has been on the power play unit all year and is given some of the best players to play with. Based on play and stats he would never have been given all this. It is time to reward players that show not “should” show. He is 11th in points out of 12 forwards and -9. The only forward behind him is collins who played like 5 games. Have seen two years of this now.

PLAYER	G	A	PTS	+/-
Nate Schnarr	15	23	38	7
Ryan Merkley	4	33	37	4
Isaac Ratcliffe	19	14	33	8
Liam Hawel	11	13	24	0
Cedric Ralph	9	14	23	7
Cam Hillis	8	12	20	-4
Barret Kirwin	6	10	16	11
Domenico Commisso	3	13	16	-3
Alexey Toropchenko	6	7	13	-11
Dmitri Samorukov	1	12	13	4
Zach Poirier	6	5	11	6
Keegan Stevenson	7	3	10	-1
Tag Bertuzzi	4	5	9	-9
Owen Lalonde	1	8	9	-12
Daniil Chayka	3	5	8	10
Jack Hanley	2	5	7	-2
Mark Woolley	2	3	5	7

[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

WOW....entitlement...for a moment there I thought you wuz talkin about the Enigma..

 

[hocknow]

this team enviroment has been anything but stable or healthy...in developing.. plus I see a bit of slow devel...but when he comes here in a year or two if traded... he'll devour this club.. what's to look at 2 years down the road here../?. besides the new russ. D Chayka...if they don't ruin him..and maybe one or two others;...NOT MUCH..

Entitlement. An 11th forward in stats should never be on the pp all year. Ruins the expectations and work environment of other players. How can there be “buy in” from all players.
If you are truly “going for it” then play the players who are doing it on the ice not on the back of the jersey.
I truly believe this game has passed george. Playing the 90’s style.

I agree I hope they dont ruin chayka. Also as much as 6 has entitlement I just accepted that now lol.

 

[OHLFan90]

If you ask me, the owner of the Guelph Storm is a moron.

Since 08/09, George Burnett has had 5 seasons where his teams where below average, under .500.

Why the hell was he even on your list of acceptable coaches?

This team is their on paper. But this crap needs to stop.

You guys are going all in, its happening. Makes me wonder what this team would be like if Scott Walker was still behind the bench. Or even Skalde.


Even with a come back tonight this tea is in trouble.


I hope you guys turn it around in the 2nd half. Ill be at every playoff home game if you do but this team really needs to find what the issue is and work it out or get rid of it. Don't matter who or what it is.