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MS

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Maybe my wording is off, low impact perhaps is better. Which is often a good result for a 4th liner. He did hit a tonne, and played fast but his hits didn't do a heck of a lot either. He wasn't an overly hard hitter like a Raffi Torres, Kostin, Sherwood, Clutterbuck, etc. He did chip in some timely goals for sure. He's also going into year 11 compared to Aman's 2nd.

Don't get me wrong I loved me some Motte. Point is he wasn't and isn't some incredible top notch 4th liner. Aman is also a very good PKer. Not saying Motte was bad but at the end of the day he was overall somewhat effective, much like Aman. Nils doesn't hit much but his choice of coverage angles and speed accomplishes much of the same. The puck staying out of our net.

I'll disagree here.

Motte when he was healthy was absolutely a top notch 4th liner. He was fast, he was physical, he chipped in goals, he was strong defensively and elite on the PK.

The problem was that his body couldn't hack his play style and out of the ~300 games he was on a Canuck roster for over four years, between injuries/not being 100% etc. was actually saw the 'best Motte' for maybe 80-100 games.
 

Peen

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Also the Motte at the start of his canucks tenure was more at the level of Matthew Highmore but by then end of it was a 3rd line level player (who couldn't stay healthy).
 

ziploc

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Also the Motte at the start of his canucks tenure was more at the level of Matthew Highmore but by then end of it was a 3rd line level player (who couldn't stay healthy).
Matthew Highmore out here taking strays

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Nick Lang

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I'll disagree here.

Motte when he was healthy was absolutely a top notch 4th liner. He was fast, he was physical, he chipped in goals, he was strong defensively and elite on the PK.

The problem was that his body couldn't hack his play style and out of the ~300 games he was on a Canuck roster for over four years, between injuries/not being 100% etc. was actually saw the 'best Motte' for maybe 80-100 games.

Fair enough. I liked him but didn't think he was elite. To each their own. His body definitely couldn't keep up so you are correct. Maybe he was elite besides that.

I still think Aman is decent and just don't get the detractors. I mean sure we all want elite guys at every position but it's hard to do that in a salary cap world. Like I've said before, if we can replace him with someone better of course I'm all game. He could be out of the league in a couple years but I think he's also showed potential when I don't think many people here even knew who he was 2 years ago. I don't get those who just want him gone without any replacement.
 
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MS

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Fair enough. I liked him but didn't think he was elite. To each their own. His body definitely couldn't keep up so you are correct. Maybe he was elite besides that.

He was literally carrying a quality 3rd line at one point here. That's an elite 4th liner.

I still think Aman is decent and just don't get the detractors. I mean sure we all want elite guys at every position but it's hard to do that in a salary cap world. Like I've said before, if we can replace him with someone better of course I'm all game. He could be out of the league in a couple years but I think he's also showed potential when I don't think many people here even knew who he was 2 years ago. I don't get those who just want him gone without any replacement.

Agreed here.

Fans like 'exciting' and 'new' and Aman is the world's most boring player who has been around for a couple years and just is what he is and isn't going to change. But what he does is useful.
 

Ernie

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They'll likely send Raty to Abbotsford just because they can.

I think the real question is whether they waive Juulsen or Friedman.

Given that defensive depth is arguably the biggest weakness on the team, it seems like a much more important question than the Raty / Aman discussion.
 
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TruGr1t

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They'll likely send Raty to Abbotsford just because they can.

I think the real question is whether they waive Juulsen or Friedman.

Given that defensive depth is arguably the biggest weakness on the team, it seems like a much more important question than the Raty / Aman discussion.

Patrick Johnson was on Sekeres & Price yesterday, and he said they will probably waive one of them. I think some of it depends on the health of Suter/Hirose, though, as does Raty's situation, as there will be no point chasing LTIR if they can't make the required moves.
 
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VanJack

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Although hardly anybody around the league is claiming anyone, I could see a claim for either Juulsen or Friedman......both rare right shot defenders, who would be valuable as 'blueline insurance'.
 

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