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Jerry the great

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Having Aman over Raty is criminal if the team values performance. Don't care if Raty is waivers exempt.
Yeah, based on what we've seen preseason, I don't disagree, but i do worry about Raty once we get into the regular season and the pace picks up noticeably. If he has to empty the tank to keep up, he could burn out quickly. I'll be curious to see his edge data if he sticks. Maybe the cost to move Poolman will come down enough in the 11th hour to get him moved and we can be cap compliant with a very healthy cushion.
 

TruGr1t

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Having Aman over Raty is criminal if the team values performance. Don't care if Raty is waivers exempt.

The fact is we don't really have room for either of them unless Suter is out. It's better for Raty to play a prominent role on the farm than get carried as a 13F. Aman is a pretty prototypical 13F and requires waivers. Basically arguing over who should sit in the press box.
 
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arttk

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Yeah, based on what we've seen preseason, I don't disagree, but i do worry about Raty once we get into the regular season and the pace picks up noticeably. If he has to empty the tank to keep up, he could burn out quickly. I'll be curious to see his edge data if he sticks. Maybe the cost to move Poolman will come down enough in the 11th hour to get him moved and we can be cap compliant with a very healthy cushion.
He's 21, his recovery rate should still be pretty good.
 

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I’m curious if they didn’t want to expose both PDG & Aman at the same time in case they ended up losing both of them. As much as they really are filler forwards, filler forwards with NHL experience who understand your system have some short term value.
 

theguardianII

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How many more cuts need to be made to get under the cap?
Problem.
They are at 90K space with only 22 of 23 roster spots now.


From PPdedia
Number of players on the Active Roster. Cannot exceed 23 players. Excludes players on IR and LTIR
Active Roster22/23
 

TruGr1t

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I’m curious if they didn’t want to expose both PDG & Aman at the same time in case they ended up losing both of them. As much as they really are filler forwards, filler forwards with NHL experience who understand your system have some short term value.

They won't because they need to keep one of them as 13F. Aman is obviously preferred due to positional premium, while they are both good PKers. One of them needed to be waived to stay below LTIR ... they also probably need to demote Bains and Raty, and waive one of Friedman/Juulsen.

Things change if Suter is out for a bit, but based on practice lines yesterday Aman will slot in for him at 4C.
 

Blue and Green

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Has Phil D ever been claimed off of waivers? He wasn't the first two times that he was waived by Vancouver and he had plenty of NHL experience at that point. Why now, at age 31? It's a possibility, of course, but generally these guys don't get claimed.
 

Nick Lang

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Having Aman over Raty is criminal if the team values performance. Don't care if Raty is waivers exempt.

Is it really though? Raty has been alright to good against weak competition playing with strong line-mates like Garland and Hoglander on the first or second line for 4 games. Has Aman had those opportunities? Not really he played third line with Heinen and Karlsson game one and then game 4 I'm sure he was with crap linemates as well in limited minutes. You have no clue what's going on in practice where it matters most.

I think people need to pump the brakes a bit here and see how it plays out. Why not do what is best for the team? Thankfully our management is 100% caring who is waiver exempt and who is not.
 

Blue and Green

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Some of this stuff comes down to LTIR or not-LTIR. If they need to use LTIR there'll probably be a little more jockeying of the roster early next week with guys on ELC's that have the biggest salaries + performance bonuses getting called up to create the opening day roster and then sent back down the next day, which is pretty standard stuff.

I don't see the current situation being manageable, not with Poolman, Joshua and Demko all needing to be put on IR to start the season. Seems as though the only viable options are to trade Poolman's contract or use LTIR.
 

Peen

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Some of this stuff comes down to LTIR or not-LTIR. If they need to use LTIR there'll probably be a little more jockeying of the roster early next week with guys on ELC's that have the biggest salaries + performance bonuses getting called up to create the opening day roster and then sent back down the next day, which is pretty standard stuff.

I don't see the current situation being manageable, not with Poolman, Joshua and Demko all needing to be put on IR to start the season. Seems as though the only viable options are to trade Poolman's contract or use LTIR.
Believe that Sat said that the Hirose injury means they'll have to be in LTIR to start the season

They've all shied away from mentioning the Poolman thing on radio, wonder if Allvin is still trying to cook something there. Would be a big help
 
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