Absolutely correct on moving the high end pieces, but this shouldn't be an excuse for management to stand pat. A Friedman- or Bear-level addition right now could make a major difference for this team.
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Absolutely correct on moving the high end pieces, but this shouldn't be an excuse for management to stand pat. A Friedman- or Bear-level addition right now could make a major difference for this team.
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Very cool Vector. Now you just need a funky nickname. Quads and abs are taken. Could you be biceps or hamstrings? Calves perhaps? Maybe Vecs pecs?
With JT’s news, I honestly think management stands put for now and sees what this team really is.
Low cost move around the fringes makes sense, but yeah, can't be trying to do the Zadorov/Lindholm type deals of last year where this team was cruising and 100% healthy.
He should wear the blame for his play, but he's hardly playing at all, so that's hard to judge.
I don't know what the agent is saying to the org, what the org is saying to him, what his attitude is. You're the one basically just reading into that stuff despite your spiel about "unknowable information".
The facts are that he is often healthy scratched, and when in the lineup, he hardly plays. If they want to maximize Jiricek's development, that is clearly not a good path.
Lindholm for sure, but if the team can add a Zadorov-level defenseman for a 3rd right now they should *absolutely* do it.
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Ivan Provorov.
David Savard has been playing some decent hockey as of late. Boring low event sort of player that can at least defend.
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Matthews, Ovechkin, Miller all out or with bad updates on the same day.
I'm just thankful this happened before we traded the 1st away, because that now has the potential to be a top 10 pick.
I'm just thankful this happened before we traded the 1st away, because that now has the potential to be a top 10 pick.
Provorov will cost a lot, and David Savard is barely better than Forbort IMO.
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The unknowable comment was to how big the team's role was in "ruining their asset".
You would have to completely disregard everything that he said and he did last year to pin this all on team.
Totally agree that the current path is a bad one and frankly it makes no sense unless they're trying to trade him, or he's told them flat out that he won't report to the AHL. I suspect it's the prior, but wouldn't rule out the latter.
People acting like the season is over already need to get a grip.
Yes, the next two or three weeks will likely be very rough. But once Miller, Boeser, and Demko are back, and as Joshua gets closer to full strength/playing ability, things will be fine...aside from still needing an upgrade on D.
The Canucks have played 17 of 82 regular season games. And even with their troublesome start they're still 12th in the league standings, in part thanks to a butter soft early schedule.
There's still tons of hockey to be played. Tons of time for things to change. Tons of time before the playoffs start.
Yes, the next two or three weeks will likely be very rough. But once Miller, Boeser, and Demko are back, and as Joshua gets closer to full strength/playing ability, things will be fine...aside from still needing an upgrade on D.
The Canucks have played 17 of 82 regular season games. And even with their troublesome start they're still 12th in the league standings, in part thanks to a butter soft early schedule.
There's still tons of hockey to be played. Tons of time for things to change. Tons of time before the playoffs start.
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Hughes centers the top line and D Petey takes his spot on defense.
Prove Boudreau wrong.
Prove Boudreau wrong.
It's been obvious from the start of the season, even back into training camp, where he hardly played during the exhibition schedule, that something wasn't right with J.T.
We all assumed it was some sort of lingering injury that he was trying to play through. But this may have been something he's been grappling with for a long time.
Time for the rest of this squad to pull on the oars together. The Leafs have strung some wins together without Auston Matthews; and the Oilers were missing McDavid for a couple of weeks, and still won some games.
This is the NHL. Short term, your team should be able to play through injuries--although without Miller, Boeser of course Demko, there'd be real trouble if it lingered over the course of a long season.
The Zadorov move was low cost and absolutely we should be trying to make moves like that.
Moving Lekkerimaki or the 1st, maybe not until we see where Boeser/Miller/Demko are at in a month.
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It’s times like this that I remember a large majority of the forum wasn’t around when the Canucks last had real expectations.
Last season was a dream re: injuries until the playoffs, but most seasons don’t go that way (it might’ve been the first season in Canucks memory that’s gone that way with a decent result). The 2011 Canucks had one dman play more than 70 games (Ehrhoff), and his shoulder was completely cooked by the finals. The year before that, Daniel was out for a quarter of the season and 2 of our top 4 guys missed ~30 games.
Needless to say, most good teams go through adversity, and you don’t throw in the towel the moment it looks like shits hitting the fan. Better to deal with this now rather than April - most guys end up better for it (Henrik realizing he could shoot during Daniel’s absence being the best example of that).
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Sure, but with numerous teams looking for an upgrade on the blueline, I would be SHOCKED if there is a Zadorov-type out there available for just a 3rd.
Unless it is a complete no-brainer, I would hold off on any trade in Allvin's shoe until I see 1) whether this team is worth investing in this season, and 2) what are the cost for upgrade.
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Zadorov only cost a 3rd because no other teams could work a whole 3.75m cap hit.
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Absolutely. If they can pluck another decent/competent defenseman for depth picks, they definitely should. No brainer to help stabilize the roster.
Agreed, see where they're at closer to the deadline to contemplate something bigger.
It was $3.75M FWIW.
