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[Bourne Endeavor]

"Guentzel was almost a Canuck... until Tampa cleared cap space. Definitely his second choice."

[Elliotte Friedman] Carolina had two deals on the table today with the Canucks, one for Miller and one for Pettersson. Eventually they went the Rantanen route

My guess is Necas + KK for Pettersson and a whole lot less for Miller.

 

[TruGr1t]

So we basically went back and tried to get the Pettersson deal we initially turned down to sign him?

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

So we basically went back and tried to get the Pettersson deal we initially turned down to sign him?

That, or Carolina offered a version of it again because they preferred Pettersson.

 

[supercanuck]

 

[Szechwan]

So we basically went back and tried to get the Pettersson deal we initially turned down to sign him?

We have no idea, I wouldn't waste too much energy getting riled up over compete speculation.

edit: nm, sry forgot which website I was on

 

[Glennis the Menace]

We have no idea, I wouldn't waste too much energy getting riled up over compete speculation

Gotta admit, it's a bad look for the FO though.

 

[SillyRabbit]

Going on record again...

Any deal for Miller that has Mittelstadt or Kotkaniemi as the main/best piece coming back (even if there are other pieces) should be absolute non-starters.

Miller has 33 points in 37 games. Just a few points off PPG in his "worst" season as a Canuck.

Teams are trying to lowball offers for him because they think the Canucks are desperate. Don't be fooled into thinking his actual value is that low.

 

[Szechwan]

Gotta admit, it's a bad look for the FO though.

I mean, maybe? Is it still a bad look if the Canes were offering Jack Roslovic and a 3rd and it never went anywhere? We have no clue.

 

[Wisp]

Canucks management is fine... This is disappointing but they're doing well with the core they inherited.

 

[Dirtyclapper]

I have doubts about Miller waiving for Pittsburgh considering their future, but who knows maybe he only cares about going East.

Also I imagine Pittsburgh would want Pettersson over Miller in a deal that sends Crosby the other way

What do you mean, that's his hometown team. He's from the boarder of Ohio and his wife is from PA. Pittsburgh is the closest NHL team. He was willing to go to NYC when they weren't in the playoff picture.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Going on record again...

Any deal for Miller that has Mittelstadt or Kotkaniemi as the main/best piece coming back (even if there are other pieces) should be absolute non-starters.

Miller has 33 points in 37 games. Just a few points off PPG in his "worst" season as a Canuck.

Teams are trying to lowball offers for him because they think the Canucks are desperate. Don't be fooled into thinking his actual value is that low.

Not fooled.

He's going to be 32.
Has 6 more seasons left on his 8 mil contract.
He has requested a trade.
The Canucks have been TRYING to trade him.

You are going to lose in any deal cause they have put themselves in a position where they HAVE to get a deal done.

 

[M2Beezy]

"Guentzel was almost a Canuck... until Tampa cleared cap space. Definitely his second choice."





My guess is Necas + KK for Pettersson and a whole lot less for Miller.

Jeff Carter 2012.... went to Kings.. apparently we were close to get him...and then...

 

[Killer Orcas]

I hope they don't trade Miller just to get a deal done. These Rangers rumored offers stink. Best to hold out until off season unless we get what we want.

 

[Wisp]

Jeff Carter 2012.... went to Kings.. apparently we were close to get him...and then...

every team has stories like this.

 

[Nucker101]

every team has stories like this.

the teams who missed out on Miller originally

 

[Vector]

 

[Baby Pettersson]

If we had the Ratanen deal but with Pettersson instead I would have been disappointed with the return Carolina gave us even though it's probably realistic.

 

[Bobby9]

If we had the Ratanen deal but with Pettersson instead I would have been disappointed with the return Carolina gave us even though it's probably realistic.

Really? If they knew they couldn’t afford Rants then having Necas is a good asset to have. If he doesn’t gel they can def flip him next year for something.

Let’s be real. COL could phone us tmro and prob have EP40 for Necas +

They would turn a UFA they can’t afford in EP with no real losses. That would be real shrewd business by the Avs. Brokering the deal btwn the Canes and Canucks and coming up w a 7 year signed player

 

[TruGr1t]

If we had the Ratanen deal but with Pettersson instead I would have been disappointed with the return Carolina gave us even though it's probably realistic.

Yeah I would not have been overly enthused about Pettersson for that package, obviously it was too rich for Miller.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Really? If they knew they couldn’t afford Rants then having Necas is a good asset to have. If he doesn’t gel they can def flip him next year for something.

Let’s be real. COL could phone us tmro and prob have EP40 for Necas +

They would turn a UFA they can’t afford in EP with no real losses. That would be real shrewd business by the Avs. Brokering the deal btwn the Canes and Canucks and coming up w a 7 year signed player

I see what Aves did. I think they made out well considering they weren't gonna resign him. But let's say Carolina gave that same deal to us for Pete. Well I dunno I'm not really crazy about it then.

 

[valkynax]

I see what Aves did. I think they made out well considering they weren't gonna resign him. But let's say Carolina gave that same deal to us for Pete. Well I dunno I'm not really crazy about it then.

Baby Hughes account name change when?

 

[brock hughes007]

wonder if carolina circles back now to add demko for kotkaniemi

gives the canucks the center to move from one (or both of) miller and pettersson, carolina gets a high upside goalie and clears long term cap to keep rantanen

What is with the Kotkaniemi interest.The player is not what this team needs.They bring him on to this team and I am done..

 

[Bubbles]

Damn Allvin...you had one job, and that is to have THREE guys named Nils on the Canucks. Nils Juntorp was there for the taking!

Two Nils = No Cup. Three Nils = Cup.

 

[arttk]

That’s makes no f***ing sense. Petey and Miller not cool with each other and we ship both of them to the Canes and magically they will be best friends in Carolina? Are the insider on f***ing drugs?

 

[Nucker42]

I would do Middlestadt and a 1st all day for Miller.

He’s 6 years younger. He’s signed for 3 more years at less than 6 million. Is he as good as Miller? No.

But you can flip that 1st for a Byram or defender and then things start to look better.