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Morning Lankinen & Boeser tidbits from Rick Dhaliwal.

Lankinen
  • Multiple sources says that the Canucks have talked to his agent about an extension
  • Believes the Canucks would like to get him signed sooner rather than later
  • NHL & NHLPA will discuss the next salary cap number in February
  • If Demko can’t stay healthy, Lankinen’s value to the Canucks increases
  • The better he plays, the more his value goes up league-wide
  • Looks like Lankinen’s camp will take a cautious and patient approach
  • Lots of agents, teams, and players are waiting to find out the cap number for next season
Boeser
  • Term could be an issue
  • Will get an increase in cap hit; maybe to 8m or a little bit over
  • Taylor points out that his injury issues could have lead to the Canucks taking their time with negotiations
  • Last time Dhaliwal checked, neither side was close & lots of work to do
 
The upside is a return to from here. No different than the Zadorov premise.

The downside risk is that he remains what he has been in BOS.

Curious, what are you seeing in his underlying profile that keeps him a bad bet that cannot rebound? Edit: Must be the shot rate.
Even if plays at the level he did in his (limited) time with Vancouver, he is still vastly overpaid for what he would be providing.

He doesn't have much transition ability, playmaking, and a low shot rate. Basically he has some decent defensive utility, RH faceoffs, and (you hope) above-average finishing when other players set him up.

He's a complementary player, in the best case. It's just a wildly gross contract.
 
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Morning Lankinen & Boeser tidbits from Rick Dhaliwal.

Lankinen
  • Multiple sources says that the Canucks have talked to his agent about an extension
  • Believes the Canucks would like to get him signed sooner rather than later
  • NHL & NHLPA will discuss the next salary cap number in February
  • If Demko can’t stay healthy, Lankinen’s value to the Canucks increases
  • The better he plays, the more his value goes up league-wide
  • Looks like Lankinen’s camp will take a cautious and patient approach
  • Lots of agents, teams, and players are waiting to find out the cap number for next season
Boeser
  • Term could be an issue
  • Will get an increase in cap hit; maybe to 8m or a little bit over
  • Taylor points out that his injury issues could have lead to the Canucks taking their time with negotiations
  • Last time Dhaliwal checked, neither side was close & lots of work to do


And here's the video.

 
Lindholm can't even pace for 20-goals and 50-points playing first unit PP minutes and being tried several times with David Pastrnak.

He gets a ton of rope from that 40-goal 90 point anomaly season playing with 2x 110 point players, so much so that even 3-4 years later he's securing a 50MM contract.
 
The guy who broke the mikheyev trade (van to chi) just said this:



He’s apparently got some Chicago connections and for all it’s worth it could be what Chicago is proposing.

if true, that is hopefully davidson panicking that bedard is unhappy. not often a 2oa is on the block less than two years after the draft, and levshunko has to be one of the lowest profile 2oa picks in a while, which to me means he is not obviously busting.

if the canucks are engaging on a trade like this i hope the other pieces make it more interesting.
 
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YAAAAASSSS

Lindholm can't even pace for 20-goals and 50-points playing first unit PP minutes and being tried several times with David Pastrnak.

He gets a ton of rope from that 40-goal 90 point anomaly season playing with 2x 110 point players, so much so that even 3-4 years later he's securing a 50MM contract.
Boston's problem now
 
Booo
 

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Lindholm can't even pace for 20-goals and 50-points playing first unit PP minutes and being tried several times with David Pastrnak.

He gets a ton of rope from that 40-goal 90 point anomaly season playing with 2x 110 point players, so much so that even 3-4 years later he's securing a 50MM contract.
Not to take anything away from Tkachuk/Gaudreau, but Lindholm that season was genuinely prime Bergeron lite for a couple years there.

I think Lindholm is still a very decent 2C and quite honestly, I do think he’d have better numbers playing elsewhere. Boston as a whole has struggled to score goals. He’s probably $1-1.5M overpaid at most.

That said, we definitely dodged a bullet. He’s lost a step and guys who have sharp declines before reaching the age of 30 just won’t end well at all.
 
I agree experience and perception define the way a game or player is perceived. For myself after years of coaching, scouting and being in hockey I find I break down games and see things differently. An opinion.

No, Trenin doesn't, neither does Jiricek

Allvin stated outright he wanted/hoped/thought Hronek would carry his own pairing in the future.

In Detroit he had defensive issues and was bumped out of the top pairing by Seider. When they traded for him I did a search on him in Detroit. He was quite upset at relegation and his pairing partners

What we think is irrelevant, Allvin stated he believed Hronek could. If you look at the defence as a whole IF Hronek could/did or was penciled into that role and succeeded then the dcorp looks quite different.

On that Chicago post, that Lev guy is supposed to be really, really good. But for EP certainly not enough.
As far as trading for futures, at some point the team will HAVE to. Every part of the team is starting to be diminished. With nothing done very soon there is only EP and Hughes left playing effectively and that eliminates most chances for winning in the real season.

Trading for futures;

If only making the playoffs is the ultimate goal then keep the status quo and just spend the future away.
Last year's team is not this year's group, they could almost be two different teams from two different places.
Injuries happen to all teams, last year the Canucks were extremely lucky with hardly any injuries at all and that is rare.
This year Demko is constantly brought up as a major injury when talking about losses, so why not just say Landinen is crap and not pulling the load? I don't think anyone thinks that, so Demko being out isn't as impactful. Then they will say missing his presence in the room, again he travels with the team and there is still issues within the room.
EP being hurt and missing 6 whole games, Hughes missing 4 games, season lost on that? Miller a month off and they can't win.
What all these "reasons" being trotted out show how fragile and in need of future trades this group is. One or two players missing and they go into a dumpster?

MY OPINION;

Tocchet has the team playing a system that can sustain or keep scores close to not have any top players or very few. His system is for players with limited skill sets keep scores close, play not to lose. Preparation for not having Miller, Pettersson or Boeser on the team. Using Hughes to the extent he does also points to the lack of need in the easy season of 100+ point players. If a player can skate and check he can fit into the system. The PP and PK are relied on to win games with the occasional 5 on 5 goals.

Any panic of EP or JTM not playing is unnecessary. Even when they were not playing the team wasn't getting lit up and when they were there the goals for aren't staggering. Defence at the price of offence. And keep it close for a playoff spot, fan interest.
They did just beat a good TO team but they played a goalie with only two NHL games under his belt and only potted 3 goals, two of which were screened deflections.
Trenin actually does have NMC or NTC, actually the story is here below, so it's modified, Wild though aren't seeking to trade either, especially a top RHD they just paid a heavy price to acquire and they aren't paying what your suggesting for a free agent to be. (Wild sign Yakov Trenin to four-year, $14 million deal, reuniting him with coach John Hynes
 
He looked like he had some potential previously.

Just not taken the next step or just not a fit in TBay?

Haven't really watched but from what I've been told he seems snake-bitten. His icetime has steadily dropped too. Last time he's played over 10 minutes was December 28th. Has been sub-7 minutes twice.

I don't think he's worth a look with where the roster is at right now. Best case scenario is he turns out like Sasson and Sasson was healthy scratched.
 
Even if plays at the level he did in his (limited) time with Vancouver, he is still vastly overpaid for what he would be providing.

He doesn't have much transition ability, playmaking, and a low shot rate. Basically he's has some decent defensive utility and (you hope) above-average finishing when other players set him up.

He's a complementary player, in the best case. It's just a wildly gross contract.


If you could, please clarify how you're evaluating transition ability (Edge data?). As to playmaking and shot rate, he compares to Garland for Assists/60, 1.09 (G) to 1.06, and to JT in Shot Attempts/60, with 10.61 (JT) to 11.2. Accuracy is the issue.

Ironically, he's matching his regular season form (PPG) over in BOS. Once he adjusts, who knows? Dubois' bounce-back and the dearth of right-shot centres has me revisiting this.

At $7m AAV, all I would expect from Lindholm is 50ish points (top60 for centres)(Edit: His career average is 55 points). With the rapidly rising cap, that will be considered fair value.
 
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Haven't really watched but from what I've been told he seems snake-bitten. His icetime has steadily dropped too. Last time he's played over 10 minutes was December 28th. Has been sub-7 minutes twice.

I don't think he's worth a look with where the roster is at right now. Best case scenario is he turns out like Sasson and Sasson was healthy scratched.

He would be a good fit on a team that's not contending and can afford to spare time and patience on his development. He has nothing to really prove at the AHL level. Tampa will probably target another forward or two.
 
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Gage is a no brainer claim imo. Big upgrade on Aman/pdg for zero assets, gives you flexibility to move on from/upgrade one of heinen/suter/blueger, or move one to winger etc..


Idk if the team is interested in claiming anyone at all tbh, seems like they're in a massive holding pattern right now.
 
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If you could, please clarify how you're evaluating transition ability (Edge data?). As to playmaking and shot rate, he compares to Garland for Assists/60, 1.09 (G) to 1.06, and to JT in Shot Attempts/60, with 10.61 (JT) to 11.2. Accuracy is the issue.

Ironically, he's matching his regular season form (PPG) over in BOS. Once he adjusts, who knows? Dubois' bounce-back and the dearth of right-shot centres has me revisiting this.

At $7m AAV, all I would expect from Lindholm is 50ish points (top60 for centres). With the rapidly rising cap, that will be considered fair value.
Manually collected data from from Corey Sznajder, stuff like zone entries/exits, shot assists, chances taken, chance assists.

Also some stuff form public (but paid) services like Evolving Hockey's RAPM model and HockeyViz's Isolated Impact model. Both of which paint him as very mid (and for Isolated Impact, that is a generous description).

Ultimately, he's a middle-six center that I personally don't believe is even better than Pius Suter. He makes $7.75M on the cap. He's over 30 and shown some red flags regarding a decline. It's not a mystery why I am against it.
 

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