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Quinning
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To carry over from the last thread:
Buying at this point in any capacity is a terrible idea and will likely result in disaster. This team is about 4 or 5 pieces away from contending and they're dealing with awful injury luck, not to mention a locker room crisis.
Best thing to do is to write this season off, trade their UFAs and low cost players for assets (it's a sellers market) bring up some kids, and focus on competing next year after making trades/good signings in the summer. What they should really be doing is going to Quinn Hughes to include him in a strategy going forward, because this is his team and they have to do whatever they can to stop him from walking as a UFA. They will have to tear everything down and start from scratch if that happens, and they'll have missed the McKenna/DuPont drafts entirely.
Re: Pettersson/Miller - they need to shit or get off the pot. You cannot drag this on forever. Trade one, or trade neither and have them do a joint press conference where they publicly put an end to the circus and agree to work together.
The recent media updates heavily suggest they are leaning towards repairing their relationship with Pettersson, which leaves the likely option as a Miller trade for a fresh start elsewhere.
Buying at this point in any capacity is a terrible idea and will likely result in disaster. This team is about 4 or 5 pieces away from contending and they're dealing with awful injury luck, not to mention a locker room crisis.
Best thing to do is to write this season off, trade their UFAs and low cost players for assets (it's a sellers market) bring up some kids, and focus on competing next year after making trades/good signings in the summer. What they should really be doing is going to Quinn Hughes to include him in a strategy going forward, because this is his team and they have to do whatever they can to stop him from walking as a UFA. They will have to tear everything down and start from scratch if that happens, and they'll have missed the McKenna/DuPont drafts entirely.
Re: Pettersson/Miller - they need to shit or get off the pot. You cannot drag this on forever. Trade one, or trade neither and have them do a joint press conference where they publicly put an end to the circus and agree to work together.
The recent media updates heavily suggest they are leaning towards repairing their relationship with Pettersson, which leaves the likely option as a Miller trade for a fresh start elsewhere.
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Im not selling our entire leadership group and expecting to win the cup the following season unless those two UFA did magically sign.
Id want to build a contender in Van for the next decade though.
Mason McTavish
Pavel Mintyukov
Cole Sillinger
Lian Bichsel? (ELC D, Boeser half retained?)
Plus whatever picks, maybe we draft Carter Bear for example with our 1st.
Those 5 alone become the future. Plus Lekkerimaki stays up today with Boeser traded.
Then once we have an actual future, only THEN do we make the 2020 Jt Miller trade or two with whatever Cirelli types shake loose.
Or... we double down on this core, send Lekk and Willander to Calgary for Backlund and Andersson and be a contender today with a bunch of flawed core players.
On a HF fantasy hockey forum, I prefer the blowup and retool version myself because I believe this core to be stale
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In a short one-on-one interview Sunday, Pettersson said he was not upset by Allvin’s comments.
“I know I can do better,” Pettersson said. “I will be the first one to say it, and I never think things will get easier.
“I haven't had the start (to the season) that I wanted to. At the end of the day, I have expectations from the club, and obviously, I haven't met them yet. But, I mean, it doesn't matter what people say. I know what I can do, and that's what I'm focussing on doing.”
“I'm aware of it, I've heard it,” Pettersson told us. “But then it's like, can I control it? No. So that's where I'm at. I'm trying not to think about it. But I'm sure it will go away if I play better and if we win.”
Does he want to remain with the Canucks?
“Yeah, of course,” he said. “That's why I signed here. Of course.”
“I'm always trying to be the best player I can be every game,” Pettersson said. “Some games are going to be better than others (but) every day is a new day and now that I'm back playing, I'm excited.
“I'm trying to not live in the past. Obviously, I wish I had played a lot better. I wished I played a lot of games better. But I've tried to learn to not play too much in the past and just try to focus on what I can do better. What's happened in the past and my play doesn't matter; I'm just trying to look forward to what's ahead.”
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“I know I can do better,” Pettersson said. “I will be the first one to say it, and I never think things will get easier.
“I haven't had the start (to the season) that I wanted to. At the end of the day, I have expectations from the club, and obviously, I haven't met them yet. But, I mean, it doesn't matter what people say. I know what I can do, and that's what I'm focussing on doing.”
“I'm aware of it, I've heard it,” Pettersson told us. “But then it's like, can I control it? No. So that's where I'm at. I'm trying not to think about it. But I'm sure it will go away if I play better and if we win.”
Does he want to remain with the Canucks?
“Yeah, of course,” he said. “That's why I signed here. Of course.”
“I'm always trying to be the best player I can be every game,” Pettersson said. “Some games are going to be better than others (but) every day is a new day and now that I'm back playing, I'm excited.
“I'm trying to not live in the past. Obviously, I wish I had played a lot better. I wished I played a lot of games better. But I've tried to learn to not play too much in the past and just try to focus on what I can do better. What's happened in the past and my play doesn't matter; I'm just trying to look forward to what's ahead.”
Canucks' Pettersson keeping focus on turning season around amid trade noise
As Elias Pettersson prepares to make his return to the lineup, the Vancouver Canucks forward addressed the ongoing tension around his struggles.
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I think its delusional to think that this management group is going to sit on their hands and write off this season when they're currently in a playoff position and have been dealing with the injuries they have...they may not dive head first into the rental market but there is nothing to indicate that these guys plan on throwing in the towel.
Dhaliwal: Most people around the league don't think the Canucks aren't serious about trading pettersson.
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We should be buying because we need a bunch more guys. If you think we can acquire 4-5 guys in the offseason then you are dreaming. We need to add like 1-2 pieces at TDL with the intention of keeping them. Then throw away some guys in the offseason and then try to add 1-2 more in UFA.
The only thing we should not do is to add rentals.
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I think you have to move on from Boeser. He looked great last season, but the Jeannot hit has really affected his game and a long term contract could age horribly. We have Lekkermaki in the wings to naturally take his place, although that will likely take a few seasons to actually happen. Trade him at the deadline and get a good asset or two in return.
He'll be remembered as one of the few bright spots of the Benning era, the first star to breathe life into this city as the Sedins were retiring. I will always feel like his career was dramatically changed by the Clutterbuck hit into the open bench door...if you watch his rookie highlights, he was an incredibly dynamic player that could skate with power and his shot was one of the best in the entire league right out of the gate.
Still a hell of a player, but I think he could have seriously been on the Stamkos/Matthews tier were it not for that back injury.
I think it was always to quiet the storm about trading Miller because other GMs would have to think they could trade either one or they'll low-ball the shit out of an offer for Miller.
He'll be remembered as one of the few bright spots of the Benning era, the first star to breathe life into this city as the Sedins were retiring. I will always feel like his career was dramatically changed by the Clutterbuck hit into the open bench door...if you watch his rookie highlights, he was an incredibly dynamic player that could skate with power and his shot was one of the best in the entire league right out of the gate.
Still a hell of a player, but I think he could have seriously been on the Stamkos/Matthews tier were it not for that back injury.
I think it was always to quiet the storm about trading Miller because other GMs would have to think they could trade either one or they'll low-ball the shit out of an offer for Miller.
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They have the most OTL points in the league. They have more losses than wins. The only reason they're in a playoff position at all is because the West is weak this season...I don't see them making it past four or five games of the 1st round regardless of where they finish.
Dhaliwal's comments from the opening of today's show,
Trading Pettersson & Miller
- Most people around the league do not think the Canucks are serious about trading Pettersson
- Miller has not asked for a trade; Canucks have not asked him to waive his NMC
- Miller does not have a desired destination to go to
- Miller is concentrating on playing for the Canucks and there is nothing going on from his side
- Canucks are asking for a centre in return for either player
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Irrelevant, OTL points are still points...they've underachieved with a ton of important pieces of the lineup spending time injured. Not a reason to pull the plug before they even hit the half way mark. You don't know this management group very well if you think they're going to tank the season right now.
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@Vector getting linked here, but only mentioned as Elliote Friedman. Vector is Friedman confirmed E5?!
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Kind of funny that the Canucks aren't serious about moving EP, haven't asked Miller to waive, Miller doesn't want to go anywhere...but the Canucks are asking for a center in a return for either player they don't want to move. lol...gotta love the media.
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Agreed on the OTL points item. Like, I don't know why anyone really values OT/SO results in evaluating the play of the team. Those are gimmick/coin flip contests.
The Canucks are 14-12 in regulation (i.e. actual hockey). That isn't amazing, but passable-to-decent given the scope of injuries they've had.
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They are just taking a read on the market, I don't think they are particuarly incentivized to trade either right now. I'd wager earliest is the deadline.
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Imagine if Miller gets traded to the Islanders lmao
Horvat and JT Reunited, would be hilarious.
No chance Horvat would let that happen
Horvat and JT Reunited, would be hilarious.
No chance Horvat would let that happen
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They might want a C back. They might not want a C back. Or they might not want any deal that doesn't make sense. - Stay Tuned
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I'd agree with that...unless someone is kicking the door down with a drop dead offer that you can't refuse, which I doubt there is, they're probably listening and playing coy but seeing who the players in the market might be for future use...but I think they want to get healthy, maybe shift a couple things around, possibly make a hockey deal where they can and see what the TDL looks like.
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I'm becoming a resource!
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nice. does @Vector get a twitter click for that link being loaded or does the reader have to click through?
They'd have to click through. All linking to a tweet does is get more eyes on it that may click.
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