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[Vector]

Jensen has been great playing in an elevated role in Ottawa...probably one where both sides are are happy with how things worked out.

Yeah, like with Walman you can see where both players had their detractors. However, both have been very good fits.

 

[Quinning]

Meh. In a rising cap + his unique traits, I don’t think it’ll age badly at all. As long as he’s healthy, I think the contract will age just fine. There will 100% be takers if Zadorov ever gets shopped. Hes about maybe $1.2M overpaid at most.

We should’ve never let him go.

It was a situation where he fit in particularly well in this system, so he was worth keeping.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I mean it's kind of the captain's job not to get the torn hull in the first place...

He’s just been one captain and so far he’s stunk the least. Not where I want to set the bar, mind you. I’ll take Tocchet hockey over any product iced the last 12 years and run.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

It was a situation where he fit in particularly well in this system, so he was worth keeping.

Not at contract. I’d like him back next year if we can wait out the Bs.

 

[andora]

Jensen has been one of the better low key mid guys for awhile

He has been a want for a few years now

 

[DFAC]

It was a situation where he fit in particularly well in this system, so he was worth keeping.

Not at the contract he was looking for.

 

[rypper]

A lot of focus on Pettersson and Miller, and it's well deserved, but there's some kind of funk around the team when you look at the lack of production from Garland, boeser, etc as well.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Canucks Coffee: Elias Pettersson gets petulant and J.T. Miller goes missing

Elias Pettersson's denials of reality are bizarre and speak to big problems inside the Canucks' dressing room. Read more.

theprovince.com

Good stuff here.

Did JT really dodge the media or was he just not scheduled to speak?

 

[David71]

Giving Hughes the C was the right move. How would it look if we traded or let walk Miller and his 100 points and stripped Horvat of the C but kept him around

hindsight 20/20. but horvat was too "nice of a guy" he didnt really stand up to teammates as much, on numerous occasions. i remember garland getting belted by a player oel came in to defend while he watched. garland got bullied again by a tampa player a few years ago same thing just watched. miller at least would drop the gloves to protect his teammates hes done it so many times.

For reference, here's all the best defenceman that changes teams this off-season:

Brady Skjei (American only played in the East)
Oliver Ekman-Larsen (obviously not coming back)
Nikita Zadorov
Sean Walker (American only played in the East)
Joel Edmundson (contract widely panned)
Matt Roy (American expected to stay in the USA)
Brett Pesce (American only played in the East)
Brandon Montour (powerplay guy)
Alexandre Carrier

Traded:
Chris Tanev
Ryan McDonagh
Jake Walman
J.J. Moser for Mikhail Sergachev
John Marino
Jonathan Kovacevic
Jacon Chychrun for Nick Jensen
Brian Dumoulin
Cody Ceci for Ty Emberson

So I get why they gambled. It hasn’t worked out and, I suspect, has lead to other issues getting magnified.

john marino would have been a nice pickup for that 2nd pairing slot. dont resign myers, go for somebody else. like tanev.. or a montour.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Canucks Coffee: Elias Pettersson gets petulant and J.T. Miller goes missing

Elias Pettersson's denials of reality are bizarre and speak to big problems inside the Canucks' dressing room. Read more.

theprovince.com

Good stuff here.

Jesus Christ save me from the virtue signalling media (and I usually hate when people say 'virtue signalling').

"People are out there struggling, scraping by, and here we are, champions of the dispossessed. Speaking truth to power by whinging about high school drama...you know, like a martyr".

I'm not disagreeing that something is incoherent in Canucks land. To have Hughes and Tocchet basically acknowledge something, and then Miller and Pettersson deny it is strange P.R.

And the team doesn't look very good. But we're also playing kitty-bar the door, low event, hockey somewhat by design to protect the fact that we have a stellar #1 D, a decent #4, a #5 who is in over his head, and bunch of #7 D playing. You can't win when your D is this bad and this poor at moving the puck at the rate that we expect based on what they did last year.

There's also the thing where a lot of sports is psychological. So like part of the Cubs 108 year curse was surely related to the fact that any time the team did anything you had a dozen people basically saying, 'you're gonna blow it, you know you're gonna blow it, right?'

And so it goes where we are struggling and there probably is somewhat of a rift. But then you have the media turning every single loss into proof that the team is f***ed, Miller hates Christmas and Petey hates puppies. That kind of psychological load is quite toxic. A team in a better place psychologically can galvanize around preventing that from infecting their collective psyches. But our team isn't strong right now.

But there's few things I loathe more than breathless naval gazing from sports writers.

There is a nobility and deep importance to journalism. As in, political journalism, those who hold the elites of various spheres to account.

But sports journalism, particularly in this clickbaity day and age? f*** right off with the aggrandizing.

I think a big problem with our media is that our team organizationally isn't even close to as leaky as the Benning regime was.

Like how often does Drance, or Kuzma, or anyone else leak something that sounds legitimate and/or insightful?

They don't. So they sell drama. It's exhausting, tedious, and deleterious.

 

[rypper]

Did JT really dodge the media or was he just not scheduled to speak?

They were both requested, Pettersson went and JT was MIA. Even Tocchet said he didn't know where Miller went.