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[Wisp]

do what the 2011 flyers did. trade BOTH of them they traded jeff carter and mike richards seperately.
one bcause of cultural change and 2. the baggage they carried at the time they named claude giroux their next captain. i think he was 22/23

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lol the flyers won eff all doing that

 

[David71]

lol the flyers won eff all doing that

they got good pieces though.

 

[Wisp]

whatever their history, i sincerely doubt pettersson and miller are PRESENTLY fighting. There's probably nothing to talk about or resolve behind the scenes... wouldn't be surprised if their teammates are making jokes about it. the team is simply having a tough stretch and the power play swap is simply tactical.

I understand and agree that a scandalous conspiracy that explains away all the Canucks problems and justifies exciting blockbuster trades is very appealing for what we do around here.

they got good pieces though.

and at the end of the day, isn't that the point of the NHL? to get good value in trades.

 

[David71]

whatever their history, i sincerely doubt pettersson and miller are PRESENTLY fighting. There's probably nothing to talk about or resolve behind the scenes... wouldn't be surprised if their teammates are making jokes about it. the team is simply having a tough stretch and the power play swap is simply tactical.

I understand and agree that a scandalous conspiracy that explains away all the Canucks problems and justifies exciting blockbuster trades is very appealing for what we do around here.


and at the end of the day, isn't that the point of the NHL? to get good value in trades.

excatly

 

[kanucks25]

Holy f*** look at how fast Petey is skating on the back-check there.

It's terrifying that nobody knows if/when he'll get that back again.

 

[David71]

Holy f*** look at how fast Petey is skating on the back-check there.

It's terrifying that nobody knows if/when he'll get that back again.

we will never see that petey again. knee injuries have hampered his skating.

 

[bossram]

I can't imagine Miller and Pettersson not playing on the first powerplay is because of their feud....I can't imagine Tochett ever countenancing it.

But I actually don't hate the idea, if both Pettersson and Miller are playing at top form. I think when you have Hughes playing as well as he is, and when you have him playing the full two minutes, you can have a deadly combo with Hughes and Pettersson and Hughes and Miller on both powerplays, and perhaps it would lead to an overall better powerplay.

Its definitely not conventional.

It's not effective.

It's not like they're even trying to create two real PP units. The 2nd unit is still just the scraps. Tocc has just decided to dump one of Petey or Miller on there for reasons no one can discern.

He took a video of himself returning it. Sometimes bullying is a good thing.

Truly one of my unpopular but correct opinions. People need to get bullied more.

 

[ManVanFan]

TIME TO pull a paul holmgrom deal philly style. trade the BOTH OF Them set a new standard and culture. team would be better off and happier IMO.

Petey playing Tocchet hockey to perfection, maybe Tocchet has already reached his shelf life on the team

 

[Curm]

All I know is, the Canucks two highest paid forwards aren't performing up to their contracts, and it's hurting the team.

I'm not opposed to trading either of them, but Miller's NMC does limit their options and the potential return. I'd rather see a salaried player moved than one of their top few prospects and/or a 1st rounder.

I think Alvin and Rutherford are going to swing big here, and once the break is over, it'll be sooner than later.

 

[JT Milker]

It's not effective.

It's not like they're even trying to create two real PP units. The 2nd unit is still just the scraps. Tocc has just decided to dump one of Petey or Miller on there for reasons no one can discern.


Truly one of my unpopular but correct opinions. People need to get bullied more.

All of your opinions are correct bro, you should let us know more often.

 

[Hodgy]

It's not effective.

It's not like they're even trying to create two real PP units. The 2nd unit is still just the scraps. Tocc has just decided to dump one of Petey or Miller on there for reasons no one can discern.


Truly one of my unpopular but correct opinions. People need to get bullied more.

Of course it’s not effective right now. Pettersson and Miller are playing like garbage, and Noeser and Debrusk have gone cold. There is basically no iteration that would be effective based on how are top offensive players are currently playing.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

Not surprising DeBrusk has gone cold as he's playing with EP and a revolving 4th liner on his other wing.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Not surprising DeBrusk has gone cold as he's playing with EP and a revolving 4th liner on his other wing.

Honestly underrated opinion. The game isn't just played, but thought so fast nowadays it's essentially 4v5 ES.

 

[Jerry the great]

they got good pieces though.

The guys they traded reunited in LA and won 2 cups. #two guys two cups yo.

 

[Vector]

I wrote an article for CanucksArmy where I went through the process I used to come up with my trade proposal of Byram & 4th for Hoglander, 1st, & 2nd.

 

[Nuckles]

I wrote an article for CanucksArmy where I went through the process I used to come up with my trade proposal of Byram & 4th for Hoglander, 1st, & 2nd.

You messed up the link on your bluesky post btw

 

[Vector]

You messed up the link on your bluesky post btw

I blame BlueSky for that. Thanks for letting me know!

 

[rypper]

I'm never understand the

I wrote an article for CanucksArmy where I went through the process I used to come up with my trade proposal of Byram & 4th for Hoglander, 1st, & 2nd.

You had me at Nils.

I would easily do this, I don't think it helps Buffalo but that's not our concern.

 

[supercanuck]

Dallas has Seguin's 9.85M in LTIR and Benn is on the last year of his contract. I wonder if JTM would interest them? Robertson/Hintz seems to be struggling without Pavelski's presence on their line. Wyatt Johnson for JTM?

 

[dbaz]

They need to go all in or sell. Middle of the pack again.

LA VGK EDM a level or 2 ahead of the Canucks.
We are playing similar to or just above Seattle/CAL
ANAH, SJ both look like they will be good in 3-4 years.


This Petey/JT Miller crap when they are not playing well needs to end. Our media feasts on it and the team cant take it.

Either trade one for a young c/prospect, cap dump, picks or for a dman +. Then go after more

or just start trading for futures. This middle of the pack stuff is garbage


NJ/DAL has ample prospects/young players and needs scorers.
Buf/NSH are run by idiots and probably value players like kilmovich/karlsson
heck even JT for lindholm +

 

[rypper]

I think this Chester fellow has some great ideas:









For the Weisbrod stuff we can just Milton him down to the sub basement and bring him around every now and then.

 

[calnuck]

They need to go all in or sell. Middle of the pack again.

LA VGK EDM a level or 2 ahead of the Canucks.
We are playing similar to or just above Seattle/CAL
ANAH, SJ both look like they will be good in 3-4 years.


This Petey/JT Miller crap when they are not playing well needs to end. Our media feasts on it and the team cant take it.

Either trade one for a young c/prospect, cap dump, picks or for a dman +. Then go after more

or just start trading for futures. This middle of the pack stuff is garbage


NJ/DAL has ample prospects/young players and needs scorers.
Buf/NSH are run by idiots and probably value players like kilmovich/karlsson
heck even JT for lindholm +

Wait, what???

 

[David71]

so many talks about bowen byram gaining traction.. makes it hard to beleive it wont come true later in the new year.

 

[sting101]

I think this Chester fellow has some great ideas:









For the Weisbrod stuff we can just Milton him down to the sub basement and bring him around every now and then.

oh my this is gold

Hoglander for Oleksiak?

 

[Vector]

so many talks about bowen byram gaining traction.. makes it hard to beleive it wont come true later in the new year.

I’m now personally invested in it happening.