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[Regress2TheMeme]

The only issue I'd see is those reports Byram sees himself as a "#1D" and has a contract coming up. Outside of that, no he'd be a good fit for a variety of reasons.

He's very offensively talented and would help solve the issue that one of our star centers has to play with a sub standard offensive D-pairing, but then don't we have an imbalance with two soft offensive guys on the left side? Who are we rolling out on the PK?

I'd prefer to sacrafice some offensive flash for someone that brings more on the defensive side of the game. A lefty that can play with Hronek or Willander and anchor a real shut down pairing while munching minutes. Someone that could become the defensive leader of the blue line. A souped up version of Ian Cole that's comfortable playing a transition game but can play polished defense and be our goalie's best friend and really guard the house. Then Hronek or Willander become the puck mover on whatever pairing Hughes isn't on.

If Byram sees himself as a 1D then maybe I'm underestimating how well he can match up against the best the the league. But I worry that we could become a team that's great on the rush, which would be fun, but a total circus in front of Demko.

 

[wonton15]

Given how much the team raves about Garland and continually places him in positions of importance and he delivers, I'd be absolutely shocked if they trade him. He's one of the few consistent play-drivers on the team.

I understand that, but not sure if he’s ever a permanent fixture in our “top 6”, and with an earned raise coming, they’re likely going to look to recomp his salary into a real top 6 winger or on top 4D. I can see a clear fit with Boeser on the top 2 lines and PP1 utility, while Garland doesn’t really have that here.

It makes sense to ride Joshua-Suter-Sherwood on the third line if they decide to go the cheaper route on 3RW. It’d be hard to part with him as a glue guy, but with his contract expiring next year and if you get value and opportunity out of it, I bet management would consider it.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Might be a very unpopular opinion but Garland is the more valuable piece for this team than Boeser, and I love Boeser more than Garland.

 

[Pennask]

In my reading seems like they’re sorta already setting it up for a potential Boeser trade. Rutherford basically said it would be resolved one way or another by the deadline, and recent leaks have called it a “tough negotiation”. Personally, I don’t think he’s a player they’d have much reservations moving given his age etc.

He's younger than Miller who is his partner and signed long term. Not sure they are shying away from age. They are looking at the wrong players if they want to get younger(which I think is not an issue).

Think of it this way, it's not broken so don't go fixing it. Those two have incredible chemistry. A reasonable raise for Boeser keeps those two together and gives the team production for the next few years.

Miller was struggling without Boeser. Not the singular reason but they need to be careful not to f*** this up.

 

[Vector]

I understand that, but not sure if he’s ever a permanent fixture in our “top 6”, and with an earned raise coming, they’re likely going to look to recomp his salary into a real top 6 winger or on top 4D. I can see a clear fit with Boeser on the top 2 lines and PP1 utility, while Garland doesn’t really have that here.

It makes sense to ride Joshua-Suter-Sherwood on the third line if they decide to go the cheaper route on 3RW. It’d be hard to part with him as a glue guy, but with his contract expiring next year and if you get value and opportunity out of it, I bet management would consider it.

Except Garland frequently plays top-6 icetime even if he's not beside Miller or Pettersson all the time. Although this season he's spent most of his time in the top-6. Trading Garland for a top-6 winger, to me, is just searching for a problem when you already have the solution.

 

[wonton15]

Except Garland frequently plays top-6 icetime even if he's not beside Miller or Pettersson all the time. Although this season he's spent most of his time in the top-6. Trading Garland for a top-6 winger, to me, is just searching for a problem when you already have the solution.

I’m not arguing with any of this and love Garland. It’s just interesting to me how this Boeser contract will unfold, their publicized want for another winger, and with Garland’s contract coming up as the next big forward ticket, it’s a possibility in my eyes. I’d be shocked if management hasn’t forecasted this scenario out already.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I understand that, but not sure if he’s ever a permanent fixture in our “top 6”, and with an earned raise coming, they’re likely going to look to recomp his salary into a real top 6 winger or on top 4D. I can see a clear fit with Boeser on the top 2 lines and PP1 utility, while Garland doesn’t really have that here.

It makes sense to ride Joshua-Suter-Sherwood on the third line if they decide to go the cheaper route on 3RW. It’d be hard to part with him as a glue guy, but with his contract expiring next year and if you get value and opportunity out of it, I bet management would consider it.

Can't say I agree. I don't think they've given a single thought about trading Garland.

 

[brock hughes007]

Can't wait for mgmt to bring Luke Schenn home.

I like Luke Schenn..tough as nails..

 

[ManVanFan]

Might be a very unpopular opinion but Garland is the more valuable piece for this team than Boeser, and I love Boeser more than Garland.

I have to wonder how Garland gets demoted to the 3rd line constantly if he's so valued to this team.

 

[Pennask]

Can't say I agree. I don't think they've given a single thought about trading Garland.

Garland is as versatile as a winger gets. Can play anywhere... fill in on special teams. RT loves what he brings. When the team is dialed in, Garland/Josh, Petey/Debrusk, Miller/Boeser give them 3 lines to roll over the opposition with and a forechecking nightmare to deal with. I really don't see them screwing with any of that.... in fact I see them adding to it.

My guess is they split the trades into two acquisitions. One soon for a middle pairing D, and a winger closer to the TDL. They can clear space for the D now and accrue and move/manipulate cap space for the winger in the spring which is not an immediate need.

 

[ManVanFan]

Given how much the team raves about Garland and continually places him in positions of importance and he delivers, I'd be absolutely shocked if they trade him. He's one of the few consistent play-drivers on the team.

He's a third wheel that gets tossed around the line up. He isn't on the first power play.

 

[Skirbs1110]

How much does Byram get paid on a new contract?

 

[StickShift]

Can't say I agree. I don't think they've given a single thought about trading Garland.

Only 14 months ago he was actively in trade rumors and some thought the Canucks may have to pay to move him.

They were ready to move on from him not that long ago. I’ve long believed that Rutherford was not enamored by having a small winger like him in his middle-six. I would not be shocked if management figured his improved play is just good fortune that makes him a more tradable asset now than what he was at the start of last season.

 

[ManVanFan]

Garland is as versatile as a winger gets. Can play anywhere... fill in on special teams. RT loves what he brings. When the team is dialed in, Garland/Josh, Petey/Debrusk, Miller/Boeser give them 3 lines to roll over the opposition with and a forechecking nightmare to deal with. I really don't see them screwing with any of that.... in fact I see them adding to it.

My guess is they split the trades into two acquisitions. One soon for a middle pairing D, and a winger closer to the TDL. They can clear space for the D now and accrue and move/manipulate cap space for the winger in the spring which is not an immediate need.

Other teams weren't even interested in Garland unless it came as a big discounted rate.

How much does Byram get paid on a new contract?

Too much.

 

[Nuckles]

Garland is pretty much untouchable IMO. He's capable of running/driving his own line as a winger.

When everyone is healthy and on their game, this team is in great shape at forward. Miller runs his line with Boeser, Petey runs his line with DeBrusk (and Sherwood), and Garland runs his line with Joshua.

 

[Peen]

 

[wonton15]

Wow two players I would’ve loved on this team. This looks like good value for Seattle

 

[Pennask]

I like Luke Schenn..tough as nails..

I really liked

I have to wonder how Garland gets demoted to the 3rd line constantly if he's so valued to this team.

Try not and look at a versatile player moving around the line up during injuries/road trips/not having Josh, as being demoted. When he returns to his natural place on this team, it's not punishment. It's a coaches decision based on needs and players available.

RT really likes what Garland brings. After Garland's rough start for the first month last season, fans were still shitting on him for weeks even though RT was telling us he really liked how he was playing. It took fans another month to figure out what the coach was talking about.

 

[Chiripa20]

I have to wonder how Garland gets demoted to the 3rd line constantly if he's so valued to this team.

Because he can drive that line.

 

[Bobby9]

Connor Murphy would be a great 2nd pairing add and wouldn’t cost us much


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[Vector]

Seattle turning a rental and some later draft picks in Kakko is good work. Even if he doesn't work out, it's an easy trade for them to make. Borgen will help the Rangers and they now have a couple of extra draft picks in-case they want to add some more players on the margin.

 

[Chiripa20]

Murphy. Shoots right 6'4" 31 years old and plus 1 on Chicago, gets my attention...

 

[Vector]

Connor Murphy doesn't really help with the puck-moving part. I do like him as the less consequential of two more defencemen that should be added, if that's the route they go.

 

[StreetHawk]

Wow two players I would’ve loved on this team. This looks like good value for Seattle

Kakko is in year 6. RFA in the summer and 1 year from UFA. 22/23 was a 0.5 PPG guy. Last season 0.33 PPG. This year just under 0.5 PPG for the 2OA pick. Probably best for him to get a change and not have that 2OA burden on him anymore.

See how he finishes out the season and whether he does anymore than get a QO and hit UFA at $2.4 million.

 

[Hodgy]

Connor Murphy doesn't really help with the puck-moving part. I do like him as the less consequential of two more defencemen that should be added, if that's the route they go.

Ya, he's more like Forbot, Soucy and Myers.