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[God]

The big thing though, that Friedman seemed to imply, is that the LOA was related to or a result of Miller not bending or whatever. And that would be a new and striking development if true, because it would show that there are some extremely significant lockerroom issues.

"I'm going to take a leave of absence because I refuse to be classified as injured" is definitely weird.

Maybe he was giving Pettersson shit for not playing through his injuries, then realizing he can't play through his, but is too proud to admit that? lol

 

[Jerry the great]

The thing that scares me with Lankinen (in general with goalies with great numbers in small sample size) is if this is his one year wonder or if he really was always this good. With Demko, you already know what you have, you just don't know what the future will hold in regards to his injuries.

Goalies of today are super fickle. Andrew Hammond, Jordan Binnington, Jack Campbell, Ville Husso, Vanacek etc. Every single one of these goalies had better numbers than Lankinen does right now in their one year wonder runs.

Grubauer signed in Seattle after putting up quite good numbers in a growing sample size. it blew up in their face. Undeterred by that, Seattle did the same thing with Joey Daccord and it's worked out brilliantly.

 

[Vector]

Recap of Frank Seravalli's interview with CanucksArmy.

Miller

• So much innuendo out there about his absence
• Zero doubt that he can run hot at times but was never an instance that was out of character between any teammates or coaching staff that lead to this
• Legitimately arrived at the point where he was burnt out

Canucks Management Approach Going Forward

• Management wants to see this group assembled as planned
• May never get everyone completely healthy at the same time with the Hronek injury
• Management realizes there’s puck-moving deficiencies
• Teams have asked for Lekkerimaki and the Canucks have said that’s a non-starter
• Have an eye on the now and future but don’t want to go overboard

Desharnais

• Someone would take him for free
• So many puck limitations with him

Lankinen

• Was looking for a lot more than what we got because the Canucks were able to offer him a starting job
• 20-25 goalies available every summer that are interchangeable parts
• Mentions Anthony Stolarz as example

Boeser

• Getting to 8m isn’t a significant raise
• Doesn’t understand why they would trade Boeser at the deadline when they were fine letting Lindholm and Zadorov leave in free agency

Trade Deadline

• Never worried that there won’t be content at the trade deadline

 

[theguardianII]

Friedman can be so frustrating. On the one hand says rumors got out of control and crossed the line, and then drops his weird little "Miller has to bend, everyone has to bend" comment that will do nothing but fan the flames of rumors. He can be such a hack sometimes.

C'mon who didn't think that Miller may have asked for a trade

Also, “will see where this goes over time and how this develops over time” just invites speculation too.

Because it is unprecedented this kind of vaccum of information. Player that don't show up for the Allstar week and not inured get fined.

It's @pitseleh's point that really gets to me. The "bend" stuff will get play but that's been known and talked about for his entire career. He's intense and gets on guys but there needs to be a medium and everyone is aware of that. Nothing really new there. But the parts pitseleh highlights is click driving.

And I'm not entirely sure if Friedman is even thinking about that in the moment. Whether he's doing it on purpose, or not, all it does is add more fuel to the fire because of the platform he has.

Paying fans should be concerned, why not other players decide to miss games without giving reasons, what if now becomes a real possibility. Maybe Hughes and Pettersson decide not to play due to whatever. Try selling that to a network let alone next year's season ticket holders.

yeah i have no idea what actually went down but this kind of reporting makes it seem like either miller is a problem in the room or they had to get miller out of the room because another player has a problem with him

Just follow the dots and listen to the words and don't try to make them fit a narrative other than what they mean. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

I put a very long "story" in the Miller thread. With more meat than a Dhali guess

 

[theguardianII]

yeah i have no idea what actually went down but this kind of reporting makes it seem like either miller is a problem in the room or they had to get miller out of the room because another player has a problem with him

The coach

 

[Wisp]

my expectation is they sign boeser once the club and his camp get a sense of his production is this year. his current 30 goal pace is easier to afford then 40. but if he goes super nova later in the season, yay for everyone!

 

[VanillaCoke]

i get the feeling that Zucker and maybe even Dumoulin will end up here

Double Doubt

 

[Wisp]

• Zero doubt that he can run hot at times but was never an instance that was out of character between any teammates or coaching staff that lead to this

well i hate to take Seravalli's word for it but this is good to hear.

 

[theguardianII]

Boeser contract or trade. Can't have him here in another 5 years. Trade him while he has higher value.

Maybe add sweeteners for Cozens out of Buffalo. That would be a hockey trade and one for the future.

 

[Jerry the great]

well i hate to take Seravalli's word for it but this is good to hear.

It's a great statement for Frank to make. He gets to be in Rutherford/Alvin's good books for a second, JT's agents probably appreciate it and if it's not true, he probably hears all kinds of stuff from his network of information whisperers. if you ever want to learn a lot about a topic, make a very confident, but inaccurate statement about it on social media and then sit back and watch the magic happen. People will spend hours explaining (in excruciating detail) how wrong you are.

 

[thecupismine]

C'mon who didn't think that Miller may have asked for a trade

Because it is unprecedented this kind of vaccum of information. Player that don't show up for the Allstar week and not inured get fined.

Paying fans should be concerned, why not other players decide to miss games without giving reasons, what if now becomes a real possibility. Maybe Hughes and Pettersson decide not to play due to whatever. Try selling that to a network let alone next year's season ticket holders.

Just follow the dots and listen to the words and don't try to make them fit a narrative other than what they mean. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

I put a very long "story" in the Miller thread. With more meat than a Dhali guess

Your guesses are nonsensical, schoolyard non-sense at best that looks more like Gossip Girl than an NHL story, and saying it has more meat than a Dhali guess is even wilder. The majority of rational fans here didn't think he asked for a trade, but you continue to peddle anything that you can find to scream drama.

There's a reason almost all your gossiping was deleted in the Miller thread right after the news was announced - you think you are "connecting dots" to come up with a wild, entertaining story, when the reality that's being stated by all parties is almost the total opposite.

I swear some people would rather talk about complete bullshit here than actual hockey.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I'd put a claim in for Wahlstrom.

 

[RobertKron]

C'mon who didn't think that Miller may have asked for a trade

Because it is unprecedented this kind of vaccum of information. Player that don't show up for the Allstar week and not inured get fined.

Paying fans should be concerned, why not other players decide to miss games without giving reasons, what if now becomes a real possibility. Maybe Hughes and Pettersson decide not to play due to whatever. Try selling that to a network let alone next year's season ticket holders.

Just follow the dots and listen to the words and don't try to make them fit a narrative other than what they mean. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

I put a very long "story" in the Miller thread. With more meat than a Dhali guess

We're really watching a generational talent here, folks.

 

[Diversification]

We're really watching a generational talent here, folks.

Rorschach’s journal. October 12th, 1985….

 

[ziploc]

I'd put a claim in for Wahlstrom.

Don't think he drops to us, but not sure I'd put a claim in regardless.

 

[Vector]

I'd put a claim in for Wahlstrom.

I don’t agree but I appreciate the effort.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Just wanna say if you can't resign Lankinen by the trade deadline then you trade him for a 2nd (hell you could probably even get a 1st).

Let's be honest. Demko is our goalie and will be starting in the playoffs. Do you really think it's a good idea to hold onto Lankinen (miss out on a high pick) just for 10 regular season games and watch him walk in the off season?

And if Demko isn't our goalie in the playoffs then you throw any dollar amount you can at Lankinen and lock him up.

Couldn't be more simple really.

 

[Vector]

I’ve had so much to drink but I want you all to know I appreciate every response after the offending post.

 

[Josepho]

Just wanna say if you can't resign Lankinen by the trade deadline then you trade him for a 2nd (hell you could probably even get a 1st).

Let's be honest. Demko is our goalie and will be starting in the playoffs. Do you really think it's a good idea to hold onto Lankinen (miss out on a high pick) just for 10 regular season games and watch him walk in the off season?

And if Demko isn't our goalie in the playoffs then you throw any dollar amount you can at Lankinen and lock him up.

Couldn't be more simple really.

I value having security in the goaltending position (especially considering Demko's history) way more than I do a late 2nd. We literally just saw a goaltending injury deny us a WCF position a year ago.

 

[valkynax]

I’ve had so much to drink but I want you all to know I appreciate every response after the offending post.

I still about a liter of Wyborowa vodka sitting on my dining table. It makes for a fantastic screwdriver when I mix Sunny D with it.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

I value having security in the goaltending position (especially considering Demko's history) way more than I do a late 2nd. We literally just saw a goaltending injury deny us a WCF position a year ago.

Then Demko is clearly unreliable and you have to move on. Better resign Lankinen then.

 

[Nucker42]

Just wanna say if you can't resign Lankinen by the trade deadline then you trade him for a 2nd (hell you could probably even get a 1st).

Let's be honest. Demko is our goalie and will be starting in the playoffs. Do you really think it's a good idea to hold onto Lankinen (miss out on a high pick) just for 10 regular season games and watch him walk in the off season?

And if Demko isn't our goalie in the playoffs then you throw any dollar amount you can at Lankinen and lock him up.

Couldn't be more simple really.

The entire time I’ve followed this team, under several different regimes, they’ve never moved an asset at its peak because it was smart.

Usually, hold on until the asset dies or leaves for nothing.

It would be such a forward thinking move to build Demko up and move either him or Lankinen. Could probably get a haul.

I would move Boeser, Suter and anyone else I could. This team has a 0% chance to win with its defense as is. As they have already moved so many assets for rentals I really don’t think they can do it anymore.

 

[sting101]

Teams bolster their goaltending all the time for playoffs. We would be idiots to move Lankinen

 

[LemonSauceD]

Did I miss some shenanigans

 

[Vector]

Did I miss some shenanigans

No. It’s still up. It’s very long.