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[Bobby9]

Nikishin pls

 

[LemonSauceD]

Nikita Artamanov is one of their intriguing prospects.

5’11 190lbs, draft year in the KHL had 23 points (7g 16a) in 52 games and this year has 28 points (14g 14a) in 42 games. Those are pretty good numbers for a teenager.

 

[Canucker]

Probably ends up being something like KK, Roslovic, Morrow + 1st.

Thats really not terrible value (with the expectation we aren't getting full value)...I'm really not a big KK fan, but Roslovic is probably valued at a late 2nd-early 3rd rounder value as a rental, Morrow is a very high quality RHD prospect and the 1st can be flipped and from where Carolina currently sits won't have bad value. Rather have this than the Rangers deal.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

What's Morrows potential? Remember him highly regarded a couple seasons ago

I don't watch much of the AHL but kid just turned 22 in November and currently has a stat line of 9g 14a in 35 games.

Decent size at 6'2 as well.

 

[Bgav]

Canes fan perspective here…

Not sure about a trade going down today as the Canes play Dallas tonight and aren’t current carrying any extra bodies, so if a trade were to go down today, it’d have to be go down pretty soon to give the Canes enough time to fill out the roster for the game tonight.

This of course assumes that Kotkaniemi + Roslovic is part of the return.

On the prospect/pick side of any potential deal, I’d think that one of Nadeau, Unger Sorum or Morrow are being talked about. And I’d say that out of those 3 Morrow would be the least likely to be dealt based on open spots the Canes will have next year on the blueline. I could also see the canes’ 2025 first being the main piece coming back over one of their higher end prospects.

Thanks for your input! Would be intriguing getting Nadeau or Unger Sorum in a package.

 

[thecupismine]

I don't watch much of the AHL but kid just turned 22 in November and currently has a stat line of 9g 14a in 35 games.

Decent size at 6'2 as well.

For context he's also their second leading scorer in the AHL - there's not a lot of veteran forward talent down there. Would be more intrigued if he shot left given Willander is coming up soon too.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Canes fan perspective here…

Not sure about a trade going down today as the Canes play Dallas tonight and aren’t current carrying any extra bodies, so if a trade were to go down today, it’d have to be go down pretty soon to give the Canes enough time to fill out the roster for the game tonight.

This of course assumes that Kotkaniemi + Roslovic is part of the return.

On the prospect/pick side of any potential deal, I’d think that one of Nadeau, Unger Sorum or Morrow are being talked about. And I’d say that out of those 3 Morrow would be the least likely to be dealt based on open spots the Canes will have next year on the blueline. I could also see the canes’ 2025 first being the main piece coming back over one of their higher end prospects.

You're in luck! We can send Desharnais back in the deal!

 

[spockBokk]

You're in luck! We can send Desharnais back in the deal!

That would be very kind of you

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

I had a nightmare we traded Miller to Edmonton.

 

[Dirtyclapper]

Why would we want KK, wtf

 

[supercanuck]

With Carolina involved, I fear that they will end up keeping JT and trading EP instead.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Any JT Miller trade should come with a 25% tax, if you know you know.

 

[DonnyNucker]

Does everyone have a Vancouver source in our dressing room?

I’d say this Spittin Chiclets pod is just doing it for attention, but I don’t think I’ve seen Bissonnette making stuff up before
*edit: I got to the part in the pod where Bissonnette called garland a midget so I now refuse to believe the moron

I have a source in the room and it's hilarious how wrong people like Ernie are. In the end it doesn't matter, JT wants out of this toxic City and environment. Lot's of blame to go around and they need to make the move. It's a shame as we haven't had players like JT often.

 

[DonnyNucker]

It definitely explains why that rumored Rangers offer was so shitty. If Miller has asked for a trade, his reputation is questionable, and everyone knows the Canucks want to trade him but he will only waive for one or two locations, we're going to get massively ripped off. There's no other way this realistically goes down.

Just an absolute piss poor mishandling of this from upper management. They've painted themselves into a corner by not keeping a tight lid on things. It's not a situation that can be salvaged by sitting tight and being patient - if they wait this out, they risk things really turning ugly and Miller potentially refusing to report.

Unfortunately, the only path that might make sense is for them to publicly keep making amends with Pettersson, and moving him close to the deadline to a team with LTIR space that wants the big name to help put them over the top. We would get much better value for Pettersson because we can trade him anywhere that can make the numbers work, although it will likely result in us taking back cap hits.

This could only happen to the Canucks. We have a generationally talented defenceman who is well on his way to multiple Norris trophies, and our two 90-100 point forwards can't put their differences aside. If this has shown me anything, it's that team chemistry is more important than any other metric. These guys have massive egos and if the coaching staff/front office can't keep them in check, this is what can happen.

I've seen enough of this core to know they aren't going to get it done.

JT has not limited the trade to 1 or 2 locations. it's sounds like he is being fairly flexible but obviously not playing in Canada. Shocked he signed here in the first place

 

[DonnyNucker]

Probably ends up being something like KK, Roslovic, Morrow + 1st.

that's an ok deal. Roslovic can be flipped. I bet it will be worse unfortunately.

 

[Nucker42]

What's Morrows potential? Remember him highly regarded a couple seasons ago

He’s older, profiles as an offensive righty… not sure about his defense. He would instantly become the Canucks best defensive prospect behind Willander though.

 

[Diamonddog01]

I actually don't mind KK, I think he could be an okayish 2nd line C if everything falls into place and Morrow would be a nice add. Roslovic is whatever. Agree with a few others that this is way better than the utter garbage NYR offer.