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GDT: Group A • Dec. 31 • Canada vs. USA • Part IV

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Both fan bases sharing one GDT, what could possibly go wrong? :facepalm:

Canada has enough to bicker about between ourselves with who's prospect is best so the last thing we need is another countries fans to not get along with. :sarcasm:
 
was a great game.

i was cheering for USA but it became clear early on that canada was just too strong and it was only a matter of time before they got to demko.

on an individual basis, mcdavid really impressed me. i told my wife if the canes end up drafting him, we're getting seasons tickets.

wow, the ebay auction for his game-worn jersey is over $8000 now.

:handclap:
 
But look at the rosters of every NHL team and especially those of most Cup winners; look at the overall results of this tournament over the decades and those of the more recent Olympics. Then you’ll have your answer as to who the top nation is or whose game hockey is.
 
ps241 said:
Both fan bases sharing one GDT, what could possibly go wrong? :facepalm:

Canada has enough to bicker about between ourselves with who's prospect is best so the last thing we need is another countries fans to not get along with. :sarcasm:
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Quite frankly, I find these GDTs to be moronic. 1000s of posts of Play by Play. They should be closed down while the game in progress. nothing more meaningless than filtering through 10 pages of "Domi scores" and every other semi important event or episode that occurs throughout a game...

Yesterday's nonsense in the GDT was about slogans and hockey players being booed.. oh my the horror! A hockey player gets booed. anybody know where I can find a hockey forum that has hockey fans?

Happy New Year to all.
 
i was born and raised in canada. grew up with hockey, played hockey, everything was hockey, hockey, hockey. loved it.

i've lived in the states for five years now and i can say with certainty that hockey is canada's game.

and that's not an insult to my fellow americans, it's just how it is in canada because there aren't as many options up there. i live in the carolinas and my kids are old enough to start playing sports. they're interested in baseball, basketball and golf. hockey? not so much, which is kinda heartbreaking for me as a kid who grew up in canada. but now i'm just a product of my environment and so are my kids.

there are pockets and regions down here in the states where hockey is obviously very popular, and it's really cool that areas that wouldn't be considered hockey hot-beds have teams and leagues too, and are even starting to develop noticeable talent.

and as a hockey fan, the coolest thing about living down here in the states is NCAA college hockey. omg, it's freaken awesome. yes, canada has awesome minor league development leagues, but if my son/girl end up playing hockey somewhere, I'd hope they choose to go the route of american college hockey.

so ya, canada is the shiz when it comes to hockey because kids are a product of their environment (not a slam against my fellow canadians either)

sorry for super long post....my coffee is just kickin' in :)

edit...also like to add that i'd be ok if my kids don't wanna play hockey or football. when you become a parent, all you think about are how the kids could get injured.

really pushing for golf :)

fore!
 
Tyler Biggs said:
But look at the rosters of every NHL team and especially those of most Cup winners; look at the overall results of this tournament over the decades and those of the more recent Olympics. Then you’ll have your answer as to who the top nation is or whose game hockey is.
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:yo:

 
ARSix said:
Exactly. As good as the usntdp is, they seem to rely a fair bit on guys who couldn't make Team Canada. You get to their first alternate and it's a Canadian with a US passport - once you get to 80? I shudder to think.
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Well....

Technically we (America) could use players from just a couple/few states - MN, MI, MA, NY and we would still probably be as good or better than most other nations on the planet.

That is a fact.

The fact that some of our most elite players today come from AZ, CA, OK, TX, as I said, is something I believe you guys find as a threat.



Mr Writer said:
Quite frankly, I find these GDTs to be moronic. 1000s of posts of Play by Play. They should be closed down while the game in progress. nothing more meaningless than filtering through 10 pages of "Domi scores" and every other semi important event or episode that occurs throughout a game...

Yesterday's nonsense in the GDT was about slogans and hockey players being booed.. oh my the horror! A hockey player gets booed. anybody know where I can find a hockey forum that has hockey fans?

Happy New Year to all.
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I agree.

This is why I don't even really post when I'm watching a game. It's ridiculous and stupid.
 
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carolinacanuck said:
i was born and raised in canada. grew up with hockey, played hockey, everything was hockey, hockey, hockey. loved it.

i've lived in the states for five years now and i can say with certainty that hockey is canada's game.

and that's not an insult to my fellow americans, it's just how it is in canada because there aren't as many options up there. i live in the carolinas and my kids are old enough to start playing sports. they're interested in baseball, basketball and golf. hockey? not so much, which is kinda heartbreaking for me as a kid who grew up in canada. but now i'm just a product of my environment and so are my kids.

there are pockets and regions down here in the states where hockey is obviously very popular, and it's really cool that areas that wouldn't be considered hockey hot-beds have teams and leagues too, and are even starting to develop noticeable talent.

and as a hockey fan, the coolest thing about living down here in the states is NCAA college hockey. omg, it's freaken awesome. yes, canada has awesome minor league development leagues, but if my son/girl end up playing hockey somewhere, I'd hope they choose to go the route of american college hockey.

so ya, canada is the shiz when it comes to hockey because kids are a product of their environment (not a slam against my fellow canadians either)

sorry for super long post....my coffee is just kickin' in :)

edit...also like to add that i'd be ok if my kids don't wanna play hockey or football. when you become a parent, all you think about are how the kids could get injured.

really pushing for golf :)

fore!
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College hockey is ****ing awesome. Everything about it. The WCHA was a fantastic league with five great teams alone in my state of MN. I think the Big 10 will pick up once we add on Illinois and Iowa.

For sure Juniors is the best route and really molds the best players, but to say there aren't a plethora of geniuses coming out of the NCAA is dishonest and nonsense.
 
Slick Willy said:
Well....


I agree.

This is why I don't even really post when I'm watching a game. It's ridiculous and stupid. I used to post on the GDT for the Wild until it occurred to me nothing was getting accomplished.
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comments, opinions, some back and forth fun should be pre and post game only. I think it would perhaps improve this forum by eliminating some of the senseless jibber jabber that goes on.

worth a shot imo.
 
Mr Writer said:
comments, opinions, some back and forth fun should be pre and post game only. I think it would perhaps improve this forum by eliminating some of the senseless jibber jabber that goes on.

worth a shot imo.
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Eh man, if people want to have back-and-forths during the games let 'em have at it.

Most of it is hot air but I'm not really for silencing their freedom of speech.

For me I saw how little got accomplished and, more importantly, how distracted I got from analyzing/enjoying watching my team(s) play.
 
Slick Willy said:
Well....

Technically we (America) could use players from just a couple/few states - MN, MI, MA, NY and we would still probably be as good or better than most other nations on the planet.

That is a fact.
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No, that is an opinion. Just because you believe something does not make it true

Slick Willy said:
The fact that some of our most elite players today come from AZ, CA, OK, TX, as I said, is something I believe you guys find as a threat.
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I think you are chewing this bone a bit too much. As a Canadian, I think it is fantastic that elite players are coming out of, to be frank, warmer states where hockey remains an afterthought. To suggest that we view that development as a threat belies any and all logical explanation, however.

That is coming from someone who lived in and played hockey in California for 6 years, as well, so don't presuppose that I hold any anti-American sentiments.
 
Slick Willy said:
Eh man, if people want to have back-and-forths during the games let 'em have at it.

Most of it is hot air but I'm not really for silencing their freedom of speech.

For me I saw how little got accomplished and, more importantly, how distracted I got from analyzing/enjoying watching my team(s) play.
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I guess... they'll eventually grow out of it I suppose.... but the unfortunate thing is, a new crop of youngsters will take their place. ca la vie.

for the record I'm in favor of GDTs being shut down while game is in progress.

Now on to other business...

That was one hell of a game yesterday. These 2 teams can not play an uninteresting game.

and what was Domi's celly to open the scoring, was that the Captain Morgan Stance?
 
foxygen said:
No, that is an opinion. Just because you believe something does not make it true
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lol, okay boss. Whatever you say. :sarcasm: :laugh:


Go ahead and pick the best players out of those states right now in the NHL and sit here with a straight face and say they would not still be a top team on the international level.
 
As always, game was a lot offun to watch. I sent a lot of angry texts after the goalie interference but that's part of the fun.

A thought from a guy looking for the positive: does this remind anyone of 2010? USA looks great early in the tourney....then loses to Canada and gets the rough draw....Canada gets a seemingly easy path to the final (Swiss beat Russians in quarters) while Usa has to navigate thru tougher match ups. I don't recall....how did that one finish? :)
 
carolinacanuck said:
i was born and raised in canada. grew up with hockey, played hockey, everything was hockey, hockey, hockey. loved it.

i've lived in the states for five years now and i can say with certainty that hockey is canada's game.

and that's not an insult to my fellow americans, it's just how it is in canada because there aren't as many options up there. i live in the carolinas and my kids are old enough to start playing sports. they're interested in baseball, basketball and golf. hockey? not so much, which is kinda heartbreaking for me as a kid who grew up in canada. but now i'm just a product of my environment and so are my kids.

there are pockets and regions down here in the states where hockey is obviously very popular, and it's really cool that areas that wouldn't be considered hockey hot-beds have teams and leagues too, and are even starting to develop noticeable talent.

and as a hockey fan, the coolest thing about living down here in the states is NCAA college hockey. omg, it's freaken awesome. yes, canada has awesome minor league development leagues, but if my son/girl end up playing hockey somewhere, I'd hope they choose to go the route of american college hockey.

so ya, canada is the shiz when it comes to hockey because kids are a product of their environment (not a slam against my fellow canadians either)

sorry for super long post....my coffee is just kickin' in :)

edit...also like to add that i'd be ok if my kids don't wanna play hockey or football. when you become a parent, all you think about are how the kids could get injured.

really pushing for golf :)

fore!
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If you were in NY, MA, CA, MN, even Wisconsin, Michigan you'd be singing a different tune. :/
 
Mr Writer said:
I guess... they'll eventually grow out of it I suppose.... but the unfortunate thing is, a new crop of youngsters will take their place. ca la vie.

for the record I'm in favor of GDTs being shut down while game is in progress.

Now on to other business...

That was one hell of a game yesterday. These 2 teams can not play an uninteresting game.

and what was Domi's celly to open the scoring, was that the Captain Morgan Stance?
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Personally, I feel like shutting down all the Tim Horton's...I just don't feel like a coffee during the game
 
I look forward to watching these teams play again. Not necessarily against each other, but just henceforth in the tourney.

Canada is pretty obviously the best team, and really 'up' for the tournament this year. America is just not as good. That's just the way I see it. If not for Demko the game would have been quite uglier.
 
Crosbyfan said:
Personally, I feel like shutting down all the Tim Horton's...I just don't feel like a coffee during the game
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then refrain from coffee drinking while the game is in progress...who cares. I'll avoid the idiotic play by play commentary of the GDTs.. thank you! Everybody wins and everybody is happy.
 
fly4apuckguy said:
Let's say our 80th best player is Matt McCarron of the London Knights. He is about 20th in OHL scoring, so when you take into account defensemen, goalies, the other leagues, etc. That is likely pretty accurate.

He is one point ahead of the USA's final cut who I think was Cole Cassells. So our 80th best player is about the same as your 22nd or 23rd.

By the time you get to 80, it is going to be much weaker.
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Both players you speak of, from each country, will more than likely have careers in the AHL or ECHL. Neither will play in the game that was witnessed yesterday nor the NHL. The point you are trying to make is useless unless you go to allot of AHL and ECHL games.

You wouldn't how good the 80th ranked players are because I doubt you have any reason to catch any USHL or NCAA games to have any knowledge of how good the players really are.
 
SanDogBrewin said:
Both players you speak of, from each country, will more than likely have careers in the AHL or ECHL. Neither will play in the game that was witnessed yesterday nor the NHL. The point you are trying to make is useless unless you go to allot of AHL and ECHL games.

You wouldn't how good the 80th ranked players are because I doubt you have any reason to catch any USHL or NCAA games to have any knowledge of how good the players really are.
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I've seen some USHL games and it doesn't even compare to the CHL. Players are not close to being on the same skill level. As a Canadian I think the NCAA is a great breeding ground and it pains me to see CIS hockey (in particular OUA hockey) not be at the same level. But I think that's one of the unfortunate side affects of having a great junior system. To FlyersFire who tried to claim that USA has caught up to Canada in development I have to say you are very wrong my friend. While USA has made huge strides they are still no where close.

For starters look into a lot of team USA's player history and a lot of their prospects and stars have some Canadian heritage or background.

Secondly I'm not trying to be an ******* but you cannot deny that the CHL is currently the best breeding ground for junior players at the moment. The NCAA is getting up there but the CHL has a much higher success rate. Unfortunately for Americans its a numbers thing and you can't argue with the numbers. But I will say USA hockey is on the rise, do I think they will ever be the hockey powerhouse? No but that's because hockey isn't the #1 sport in USA and probably never will be.
 
Mr Writer said:
Quite frankly, I find these GDTs to be moronic. 1000s of posts of Play by Play. They should be closed down while the game in progress. nothing more meaningless than filtering through 10 pages of "Domi scores" and every other semi important event or episode that occurs throughout a game...

Yesterday's nonsense in the GDT was about slogans and hockey players being booed.. oh my the horror! A hockey player gets booed. anybody know where I can find a hockey forum that has hockey fans?

Happy New Year to all.
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100% agree. Its doomed to failure before we get going due to the Politics of fans prospects, haters of NHL teams trolling that teams prospects, and mixed fan bases. Its almost as dysfunction as the trade threads. Reality TV for dudes. :help:

Anyways I browse after the games because I can't turn away from the car wreck. :laugh:

Happy New year to you Mr Writer and to all the other posters.
 
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