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Metallian said:
Wow, this is A Grezky appreciation thread. If you wanna bash him do it in a diffrent thread. Hes won a gold, a World cup, and he never GMed TEam Canada at the World Champions. Get your sources before making stuff up.
AgentNaslund said:
You've gotta ignore him, it's pretty obvious the guy is just trolling. He must be intentionally getting his facts wrong just to provoke a reaction, otherwise he's probably the biggest moron on the boards.
wealthmanager said:But you guys are forgetting.
CANADA was thoroughly embarrased.
We were totally outplayed. Our skill level wasn't even close to Russia. The Coaching was useless and couldn't inspire the players we had.
Russia has a great team, and I understand anyone can loose in a one game elimination, but the only way Canada gets this badly embarrased at hockey is if there is a colosal failure at the top.
Ugh - tell me about it.
I mean, did you see how Gretzky looked totally disinterested out there on the ice? No desire and no finish at all. I don't think I saw him finish a single check. And talk about slow foot speed - he looked like he was skating with a piano on his back! For a crash & bang winger, he sure wasn't creating a lot of chances. Did he even win a single faceoff? He was definitely our worst defenseman out there, and holy crap, is he ever washed up as a goalie! He played with zero intensity and absolutely deserved this outcome. If there is one player that should wear this loss it's Wayne.
Big Phil
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This is funny. Only us Canadian puppets would glorify the GM of a team when we get bounced out in the quarterfinals. Only we would give credit to a man who picked a cheap shot criminal (Bertuzzi) one of his underacheiving players (Doan) a guy who over acheived in '04 and had never been anywhere near that since (Draper), and leave guys off the team albeit younger players but better more energized players that would have created scoring chances all the time.
Rocket Richard would be rolling over in his grave if he heard us glorify an underacheiving team that got bounced out in the quarters by the Russians. Geez even Harold Ballard would too. let's face it guys Gretzky made a few mistakes. He relied on experience too much and not at how good a player is doing right now. In 2010 Brent Sutter should coach this team no questions asked. Gretzky and Quinn should politely bow out. Look Bowman never coached again after '81, neither did Sather in '96, nor Crawford in '98. Losing is unnacceptable in Canada. I'm ashamed of the whole team, Quinn and Gretzky. Gretzky should pick up his brain, he left it in 2002.
Rocket Richard would be rolling over in his grave if he heard us glorify an underacheiving team that got bounced out in the quarters by the Russians. Geez even Harold Ballard would too. let's face it guys Gretzky made a few mistakes. He relied on experience too much and not at how good a player is doing right now. In 2010 Brent Sutter should coach this team no questions asked. Gretzky and Quinn should politely bow out. Look Bowman never coached again after '81, neither did Sather in '96, nor Crawford in '98. Losing is unnacceptable in Canada. I'm ashamed of the whole team, Quinn and Gretzky. Gretzky should pick up his brain, he left it in 2002.
Wayne Gretzky was one of the greatest players of all time. That's all I have to say about him, I don't know him personally, IMO he made some bad choices with Team Canada, his presence will not help the Coyotes to the post season and people are finding out his personal life is not all that perfect.
He was a great player lets leave it at that. Nobody here knows him personally, you're not living with the guy
He was a great player lets leave it at that. Nobody here knows him personally, you're not living with the guy
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wayne is a class act and always will be. He is also a very hard worker, and i guarantee you he spent countless hours going over the roster because he wanted to represent canada the best he could. I think he did a good job. The players were out-played against russia and finland, they were outplayed in the last 2 periods by the czechs, and ran into a really hot goalie in gerber. Nobodys fault, just that russia was better, played harder, and deserved the win.
Towmater14
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Yeah, but are you really Canadian?? Who were you cheering for in the Olympics? World Juniors? Yeah...thats what I thought.Metallian said:i am Canadian
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Parch
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What's in it for him? Why is he doing this? Gretzky has said he is going to reconsider his role in hockey, and I wouldn't blame him if he walks away completely. All the flak he's receiving over the olympics, a disappointing Coyotes team, the gambling nonsense. Add the death of his mother and grandmother and it's been a rough year. He could easily say to hell with it and go lay on a beach somewhere for the rest of his life. He certainly doesn't need the money.
Gretzky took on the Hockey Canada GM role because he's a proud Canadian. He did a damn fine job the first time around and now it's all his fault? Ridiculous. He didn't have to take on this job, but he certainly gets my respect because he did. There isn't a better ambassador to the game and there is nobody more loyal to Canadian hockey than Wayne Gretzky. But look at the BS he has to put up with.
Gretzky took on the Hockey Canada GM role because he's a proud Canadian. He did a damn fine job the first time around and now it's all his fault? Ridiculous. He didn't have to take on this job, but he certainly gets my respect because he did. There isn't a better ambassador to the game and there is nobody more loyal to Canadian hockey than Wayne Gretzky. But look at the BS he has to put up with.
Gforce33 said:
I cheered for Canada at the 03 WJC, and SLC, and just about every World Champ. till the most recent
just because I hated the 05WCJ team and this years horrible Olympic roster doesn't mean I hate everything Canadian
Metallian said:just because I hated the 05WCJ team and this years horrible Olympic roster doesn't mean I hate everything Canadian
Actually, yes, it pretty much does.
BackToTheBrierePatch
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I will agree with the group that thinks that Gretz the person putting together a team for the Olympics is not even close to the player he was on the ice.
Both Canada and the US had all the wrong kind of players on their respective teams.
Both Canada and the US had all the wrong kind of players on their respective teams.
McGuillicuddy
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Metallian said:
No. I've read (too) many of your posts over the last few months since the WJHCs. You obviously have some kind of bitterness for Canada or a lingering malaise about being Canadian. Why else would you put a Ukraine flag under your name, and cheer against Canada in the sport that it lives and breathes like no other? Possibly you have some slavic ties and that's your excuse, but that doesn't fly. I'm part Scottish by blood, but I would never cheer for Scotland or Great Britain over Canada in any international event in a million years. Nobody who is really Canadian, and has an appreciation for the the history and culture of our country, of which hockey is a central part, would hope for its defeat in an international event like the WJHC or the Olympics.
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It is very classy of Gretz to come out and take all the blame for his team failure.
Some of the comments he made at the Olympic were very true. He said his players were too uptight & were under too much pressure. As a result the players were not having fun & relax. I think they are too consumed in their mind about winning gold medal for Canada instead of worrying about how to improve each game & what system of play needs to execute during the game. He was right about calling some younger players to step up their game to help out the veterans like the way some players did in 2002. People forgot that Lemieux was not great at 2002 Olympic either, it was Sakic’s, Iginla’s & Brodeur’s great play that help us win the gold.
At Torino, no players step up to take charge & especially to take pressure off some players.
A big mistake Gretz made is to have Bertuzzi on the team. Bertuzzi has never been the same player since the Steve Moore incident. Bertuzzi is very uptight most of the time, I haven’t seen him crack a smile in a long time. That lawsuit against him made it even worst for him. Having Bertuzzi around can affect the team’s mood & karma. It seems every players are so tense out on the ice. They seem to have the “Jeremy Witherspoon†Olympic mentality out there— very uptight & not able to cope with pressure. In no way am I saying that we lost solely because of Bertuzzi, he actually did play slightly better than some players. It just seem to me that Bertuzzi is a gloomy player to have around.
I wished we have some more exuberant players on the team to rub off the nervousness of some players. It is so obvious that no enthusiasm was shown by any players. When you have a dressing room full of nervous players, no matter what talent you have, you are not going to be successful.
Some of the comments he made at the Olympic were very true. He said his players were too uptight & were under too much pressure. As a result the players were not having fun & relax. I think they are too consumed in their mind about winning gold medal for Canada instead of worrying about how to improve each game & what system of play needs to execute during the game. He was right about calling some younger players to step up their game to help out the veterans like the way some players did in 2002. People forgot that Lemieux was not great at 2002 Olympic either, it was Sakic’s, Iginla’s & Brodeur’s great play that help us win the gold.
At Torino, no players step up to take charge & especially to take pressure off some players.
A big mistake Gretz made is to have Bertuzzi on the team. Bertuzzi has never been the same player since the Steve Moore incident. Bertuzzi is very uptight most of the time, I haven’t seen him crack a smile in a long time. That lawsuit against him made it even worst for him. Having Bertuzzi around can affect the team’s mood & karma. It seems every players are so tense out on the ice. They seem to have the “Jeremy Witherspoon†Olympic mentality out there— very uptight & not able to cope with pressure. In no way am I saying that we lost solely because of Bertuzzi, he actually did play slightly better than some players. It just seem to me that Bertuzzi is a gloomy player to have around.
I wished we have some more exuberant players on the team to rub off the nervousness of some players. It is so obvious that no enthusiasm was shown by any players. When you have a dressing room full of nervous players, no matter what talent you have, you are not going to be successful.
I hope Gretz stays in Team Canada- and I think it would be great if he coached the 2010 squad- he gets a few more seasons coaching in and it would be a perfect fit. He is happiest close to the ice and the players. "99 Forever"- hang in there Gretz and things will get better for you and your family. 
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