Prospect Info: Grand Rapids Griffins, 2024 - 2025 Season

[JediOrderPizza]

Damn Soder.

 

[jkutswings]

Noted terrible playmaker Nate Danielson with his 3rd assist of the game.

No surprise. He has better linemates now than when he was in Detroit.

 

[Gniwder]

Sounds like Elmer is pushing for a look. Would love to see him make the NHL, but we'll see if he can be consistent in this kind of physical play to get a look.

Yeah, let him learn how to fight against AHLers for a little longer. His reach will translate to the NHL, but NHL heavyweights are gonna throw harder and faster punches.

There's a lot to like in that fight though. Quick recognition when the opponent dropped the gloves, fast reach, and some quick punches. Being the taller player, it's advantageous for him to grab the front of the jersey, so he can push the other player away and use his reach. In this particular case, he finished the other guy so quick he didn't even have to use his reach. He did use his height advantage and pushed the other guys head down, let go, dropped the gloves, and popped the opponent good as soon as he lifted his head.

If he can win a few more fights and throw hits on a consistent basis, that will force Stevie to keep him next season. Elmer has to go through waivers next season.

 

[Winger98]

be nice if his production would pick up just a bit. Doesn't have to be a PPG but he's still pacing behind last year. Really like the apparent uptick in physical play.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

If we call up soderblom we might as well call up watson at the Same time so he can continue his miyagi teachings on him and elmer can keep his mojo going

If the Wings can get rid of Tank and Kane I’m for it.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

If the Wings can get rid of Tank and Kane I’m for it.

They can get rid of fischer/motte/veleno

Wont happen but for the hell of it lol ..


Tarasenko Larkin raymond
Debrincat cozens kane
Soderblom kasper berggren
watson copp fischer
Motte

Compher at 3.75 + rasmussen + 2026 1st top 10 protected gets moved to 2027 + 2027 3rd

Money works out since sabres are a budget team

This definetly definetly wont happen lol ...

Trade chiarot to vegas 50% and talbot for samsonov and hague ... dont think Vegas can afford hague and they get a cheap replacement for now and next season and an upgrade in nets and someone who'll be back next year

And just noticed I didnt deal any of veleno motte fischer like I proposed lmaoo ... joe can go to Vegas lol

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Any news on mazur and lombardi returning ???

And for the life of me I cant recall what happened to lombardi, anyone know the extent of the injury

 

[schuelma24]

Any news on mazur and lombardi returning ???

And for the life of me I cant recall what happened to lombardi, anyone know the extent of the injury

He's skating and is about a month away as of last week. Lombardi is still "out for a little while."

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

He's skating and is about a month away as of last week. Lombardi is still "out for a little while."

Damn. Pretty much guarantees Lombardi will be back in g.r next season

 

[Gniwder]

be nice if his production would pick up just a bit. Doesn't have to be a PPG but he's still pacing behind last year. Really like the apparent uptick in physical play.

If Elmer can fight like that every time, he's got a place in the NHL even if he puts up just 20 points.
As for his GR production, look at his linemates. Maybe time to move him up to the first or second line.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

Damn. Pretty much guarantees Lombardi will be back in g.r next season

That’s a good thing, no? Would hate to see him bounce to Europe

 

[heyfolks]

Elmer is a dangerous man out there…

Elmer has clearly made a change in his game to use his size and be more physical and the results seem promising. Sell off Kane and make room for him on the big club.

Sounds like Elmer is pushing for a look. Would love to see him make the NHL, but we'll see if he can be consistent in this kind of physical play to get a look.

If we call up soderblom we might as well call up watson at the Same time so he can continue his miyagi teachings on him and elmer can keep his mojo going

I agree with all of the quoted her on Soderblom. I have no doubt Watson and Watson have helped him realize he has two paths.

1) Go back to Sweden and play the cutesy puck play, soft ,no hitting game you brought to N. America. You can play another 10-12 years and earn 150-200,000 euros per annum.

2) Hit everything that moves and everything that doesn't, get in on the forecheck and to the front of the net. Give the puck to the puckhandlers and drive to the net. Don't become Rempe but, if called out, ANSWER. You can play another 10-12 years and earn 850-1,000,000 euros per annum.


For a man of his size, he can skate well enough for the NHL. He can also handle and move the puck well enough to stay in the NHL... as a big man on the 4th line.

 

[heyfolks]

Thought I would share the Youtube version of the fight.




I will also add a podcast interview. (Not sure why John Scott isn't catching on. I thought his interview with Mo was outstanding.)





You can sense Scott telling the kid if he wants something other than a cup of coffee (which he has already consumed) he needs to become a physical presence.

 

[19 for president]

I agree with all of the quoted her on Soderblom. I have no doubt Watson and Watson have helped him realize he has two paths.

1) Go back to Sweden and play the cutesy puck play, soft ,no hitting game you brought to N. America. You can play another 10-12 years and earn 150-200,000 euros per annum.

2) Hit everything that moves and everything that doesn't, get in on the forecheck and to the front of the net. Give the puck to the puckhandlers and drive to the net. Don't become Rempe but, if called out, ANSWER. You can play another 10-12 years and earn 850-1,000,000 euros per annum.


For a man of his size, he can skate well enough for the NHL. He can also handle and move the puck well enough to stay in the NHL... as a big man on the 4th line.

He has to warrant being an every day NHL player and his ticket to that is to bring some physicality. If he can do that I could also easily see him slide into a net front role on the PP too. You don't need to be a great skater to play a Homer like role, and he has the mitts to do damage in that 5 foot from the crease area. Teams just can't afford pure PP guys anymore. You need to bring something else too.

I mean could you imagine a guy like him parked in front of the net with ASP threading the puck on the PP.

 

[newfy]

I agree with all of the quoted her on Soderblom. I have no doubt Watson and Watson have helped him realize he has two paths.

1) Go back to Sweden and play the cutesy puck play, soft ,no hitting game you brought to N. America. You can play another 10-12 years and earn 150-200,000 euros per annum.

2) Hit everything that moves and everything that doesn't, get in on the forecheck and to the front of the net. Give the puck to the puckhandlers and drive to the net. Don't become Rempe but, if called out, ANSWER. You can play another 10-12 years and earn 850-1,000,000 euros per annum.


For a man of his size, he can skate well enough for the NHL. He can also handle and move the puck well enough to stay in the NHL... as a big man on the 4th line.

Yeah Soderblom has the skill to be on the ice and not an offensive black hole, even at the offensive level. If he became a guy who even uses his size to be physical even somewhat consistently he would be making even more than that pretty quickly. Looking at a guy like Dakota Joshuas contract he just got. If you can fight even a bit, that adds even more value. Soderblom has went from a guy who could only really play in an NHL top 6 to creating a potential legit role in the bottom 6 as well. His NHL future might be shifting here.

I'll just throw this in as well.... that Labate guy he fought is a legit heavyweight thats fought for years. Hes got fights against guys like Trent Frederic, Cody McLeod way back, Reaves, toe to toe with Brendan Dillon. All legit tough guys/heavyweights. Maybe hes got potential with the gloves off to evenbe an Ericsson/Lilja level Swedish scrapper

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

That’s a good thing, no? Would hate to see him bounce to Europe

Just thought if he continued the way he was going + a good camp he might have a shot at the team next year ... he'll be 23 I believe?? Gotta stop making these kids wait forever

That being said since he'll miss so many games it's likely guaranteed he'll need another year down

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

Just thought if he continued the way he was going + a good camp he might have a shot at the team next year ... he'll be 23 I believe?? Gotta stop making these kids wait forever

That being said since he'll miss so many games it's likely guaranteed he'll need another year down

how is he so old already? was he an overager?

 

[heyfolks]

He has to warrant being an every day NHL player and his ticket to that is to bring some physicality. If he can do that I could also easily see him slide into a net front role on the PP too. You don't need to be a great skater to play a Homer like role, and he has the mitts to do damage in that 5 foot from the crease area. Teams just can't afford pure PP guys anymore. You need to bring something else too.

I mean could you imagine a guy like him parked in front of the net with ASP threading the puck on the PP.

I am unsure if you think that isn't what i said, or that we disagree in some way. We do not. I did not use the word "great" to describe any aspect of ES's game. Yet, a player does need better skating to play today. My point was that Elmer possesses enough skating ability to be able to get in on the forecheck, get to the front of the net and keep up with the play at the NHL level. As a comparison, Givani Smith was/is a two stride too slow. As you state, Elmer also has better hands. Of course, if he has one that is great, it is his size. As for fighting. He need only show he is willing and capable. the far more important aspect of his game, that is still unproven to me, is his ability and willingness to play physically.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

how is he so old already? was he an overager?

Will be 22 in the summer not 23 , f***ed up. Too be fair everyone rots and overripes in g.r

 

[heyfolks]

Yeah Soderblom has the skill to be on the ice and not an offensive black hole, even at the offensive level. If he became a guy who even uses his size to be physical even somewhat consistently he would be making even more than that pretty quickly. Looking at a guy like Dakota Joshuas contract he just got. If you can fight even a bit, that adds even more value. Soderblom has went from a guy who could only really play in an NHL top 6 to creating a potential legit role in the bottom 6 as well. His NHL future might be shifting here.

I'll just throw this in as well.... that Labate guy he fought is a legit heavyweight thats fought for years. Hes got fights against guys like Trent Frederic, Cody McLeod way back, Reaves, toe to toe with Brendan Dillon. All legit tough guys/heavyweights. Maybe hes got potential with the gloves off to evenbe an Ericsson/Lilja level Swedish scrapper

100%. His path to the NHL is a physical bottom 6 player, and PP specialist. Every other path leads to his homeland. (He just isn't skilled enough to be a top 6 player.)

 

[Ulysses31]

100%. His path to the NHL is a physical bottom 6 player, and PP specialist. Every other path leads to his homeland. (He just isn't skilled enough to be a top 6 player.)

bit too soon to say that given his size IMO tho u might b right. makes some strange choices in offensive zone, but i think he his hockey sense is a bit off more than lacking skill. oddly he does have a knack for putting pucks in the net at the same time.

 

[Gniwder]

Yeah Soderblom has the skill to be on the ice and not an offensive black hole, even at the offensive level. If he became a guy who even uses his size to be physical even somewhat consistently he would be making even more than that pretty quickly. Looking at a guy like Dakota Joshuas contract he just got. If you can fight even a bit, that adds even more value. Soderblom has went from a guy who could only really play in an NHL top 6 to creating a potential legit role in the bottom 6 as well. His NHL future might be shifting here.

I'll just throw this in as well.... that Labate guy he fought is a legit heavyweight thats fought for years. Hes got fights against guys like Trent Frederic, Cody McLeod way back, Reaves, toe to toe with Brendan Dillon. All legit tough guys/heavyweights. Maybe hes got potential with the gloves off to evenbe an Ericsson/Lilja level Swedish scrapper

LaBate isn't a true heavyweight, he's kinda like Watson where he'll go up against a guy like Reaves but gets manhandled. Not to take anything away from Elmer, he absolutely embarrassed an experienced fighter.

So he's shown that he's willing to protect himself, but is he at the point where he'll protect his teammates? The beef about Ericsson was that he'll fight for himself, but rarely for others unless someone pisses him off in the scrum. As soon as he's willing and confident enough to do that, I want to see him in the NHL.

 

[heyfolks]

bit too soon to say that given his size IMO tho u might b right. makes some strange choices in offensive zone, but i think he his hockey sense is a bit off more than lacking skill. oddly he does have a knack for putting pucks in the net at the same time.

Too soon? He will be 24 in July.