Prospect Info: Grand Rapids Griffins, 2024 - 2025 Season

[SoupNazi]

Didn't realize there hadn't been a new one of these in two seasons.

Resume discussions here.

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[Electric Eric]

Got that new thread smell. Savior it, soon it'll be full of farts and bad takes.

 

[Konnan511]

Curious to see how Cossa does or if he gets much playing time with the 30 goalies on the roster.

 

[Henkka]

Curious to see how Cossa does or if he gets much playing time with the 30 goalies on the roster.

Most starts as the Griffins starter. They already have informed us about that.

 

[Konnan511]

Most starts as the Griffins starter. They already have informed us about that.

Was that before or after the recent signings? Do you have the article by chance? Thank you!

 

[Run the Jewels]

Danny Legend gave an interview. Talked a bit about a few women coaches added to the development camp, Pav paying a visit, and how Dan Watson followed the development plan and the team really picked up from a rough start to the season.

 

[SirloinUB]

Got that new thread smell. Savior it, soon it'll be full of farts and bad takes.

We don't mind your bad takes but there is a reason we limit your posts here (jokes of course )

 

[lilidk]

Danny Legend gave an interview. Talked a bit about a few women coaches added to the development camp, Pav paying a visit, and how Dan Watson followed the development plan and the team really picked up from a rough start to the season.

Question for those who know about skating, I don't.
Is skating technique the same for women and man ?

 

[NickH8]

As of now (a lot will change, AHL is transient).
* denote veteran status. AHL teams can dress a max of 6 veteran skaters. GR currently has 5 signed.
Not assuming promotion of waiver exempt prospects. Assuming Berggren and Johansson up due to waivers.
Snively - Kasper - Mazur
Dries* - Danielson - Soderblom
Rychlovsky - Lombardi - Shine*
Hanas - Gettinger* - Johannes
Doucet - Seger

Wallinder - Rafferty
Laggeson* - Tuomisto
Buium - Dello
Viro - Didier*

Cossa
Campbell
Gylander
Alexander
Bednar

Departed:
Zach Aston-Reese - Vegas
John Lethemon - Lukko
Wyatt Newpower - Bridgeport
Riley Sawchuk - KooKoo
Radim Simek - Liberec

Unsigned:
Trenton Bliss
Austin Czarnik
Curtis Hall (not qualified by Boston)
Taro Hirose
Michael Hutchinson
Joel L'Esperance
Matt Luff
Jared McIsaac
Tyler Spezia

 

[NickH8]

As of now (a lot will change, AHL is transient).
* denote veteran status. AHL teams can dress a max of 6 veteran skaters. GR currently has 5 signed.
Not assuming promotion of waiver exempt prospects. Assuming Berggren and Johansson up due to waivers.
Snively - Kasper - Mazur
Dries* - Danielson - Soderblom
Rychlovsky - Lombardi - Shine*
Hanas - Gettinger* - Johannes
Doucet - Seger

Wallinder - Rafferty
Laggeson* - Tuomisto
Buium - Didier*
Viro

Cossa
Campbell
Gylander
Alexander
Bednar

Departed:
Zach Aston-Reese - Vegas
John Lethemon - Lukko
Wyatt Newpower - Bridgeport
Riley Sawchuk - KooKoo
Radim Simek - Liberec

Unsigned:
Trenton Bliss
Austin Czarnik
Curtis Hall (not qualified by Boston)
Taro Hirose
Michael Hutchinson
Joel L'Esperance
Matt Luff
Jared McIsaac
Tyler Spezia

UPDATE: Detroit signs Tory Dello to a two way contract. Former Griffin. RD.

 

[Oddbob]

UPDATE: Detroit signs Tory Dello to a two way contract. Former Griffin. RD.

Why are they signing some low end AHL guy? This is a weird GR depth move.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I hope they promote Kasper and Mazur, then demote Motte and re-sign Czarnik, Luff or Hirose. The kids definitely looked ready in the AHL playoffs.

 

[Oddbob]

I hope they promote Kasper and Mazur, then demote Motte and re-sign Czarnik, Luff or Hirose. The kids definitely looked ready in the AHL playoffs.

No Czarnik please cause then Lalonde will play him the second we have an injury.

 

[NickH8]

Why are they signing some low end AHL guy? This is a weird GR depth move.

It's the AHL. You need depth at every position because of call ups. You need at the minimum 8D and 15 forwards.
It's an annual tradition for people to get worked up over the most innocuous, irrelevant AHL depth signings.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Why are they signing some low end AHL guy? This is a weird GR depth move.

You realize you can’t have team full of only stars even at the AHL right?

 

[jaster]

Question for those who know about skating, I don't.
Is skating technique the same for women and man ?

Can’t speak to figure skating, but general skating and in hockey… it’s the same for both, yes.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

So what do we expect out of soderblom this year? He’s still a very unique prospect if he can get better pace/skating and stay healthy. Has the organization made any comments about him recently?

 

[lilidk]

So what do we expect out of soderblom this year? He’s still a very unique prospect if he can get better pace/skating and stay healthy. Has the organization made any comments about him recently?

I think we better keep him in AHL, make sure he doesn't go to SHL

 

[Gniwder]

Question for those who know about skating, I don't.
Is skating technique the same for women and man ?

The basic technique is the same but the angles can be different. Women typically have a lower center of gravity, are knock kneed, and have wider hips. All of the leg angles are different from the typical male. It would be really difficult for a female skate instructor to fix Raz's issue with his severe bowlegged stance.

(I teach skiing, not skating but the issues are the same.)

 

[norrisnick]

The basic technique is the same but the angles can be different. Women typically have a lower center of gravity, are knock kneed, and have wider hips. All of the leg angles are different from the typical male. It would be really difficult for a female skate instructor to fix Raz's issue with his severe bowlegged stance.

(I teach skiing, not skating but the issues are the same.)

Only if said instructor's ability to teach was limited entirely to "do what I do". If you legitimately know what you're doing, you can see what someone else is doing and modify it to better suit the learning person's anatomy.

It would be just as silly to state a short skating instructor would struggle with fixing Ras.

 

[lilidk]

Only if said instructor's ability to teach was limited entirely to "do what I do". If you legitimately know what you're doing, you can see what someone else is doing and modify it to better suit the learning person's anatomy.

It would be just as silly to state a short skating instructor would struggle with fixing Ras.

It's also making sense, they hired couple female coaches, that is why I asked. Thanks both of you.

 

[jaster]

The basic technique is the same but the angles can be different. Women typically have a lower center of gravity, are knock kneed, and have wider hips. All of the leg angles are different from the typical male. It would be really difficult for a female skate instructor to fix Raz's issue with his severe bowlegged stance.

(I teach skiing, not skating but the issues are the same.)

Nah man, this is not how skating instruction goes. There is concession given to bow-leggedness in power skating classes, but even if that's more common with women (which is not my experience in skating), it happens with both sexes. And, either way, male and female instructors both know how to coach that. I forget her name, but one of the best power-skating instructors in the country for at least a couple decades (like 80s, 90s and 2000s at least) was a woman. She coached a lot of guys who played in the NHL. And she wasn't the only woman to do so at that level.

EDIT: Laura Stamm. She's a legend in hockey skating, and in the NHL.

 

[Gniwder]

Nah man, this is not how skating instruction goes. There is concession given to bow-leggedness in power skating classes, but even if that's more common with women (which is not my experience in skating), it happens with both sexes. And, either way, male and female instructors both know how to coach that. I forget her name, but one of the best power-skating instructors in the country for at least a couple decades (like 80s, 90s and 2000s at least) was a woman. She coached a lot of guys who played in the NHL. And she wasn't the only woman to do so at that level.

EDIT: Laura Stamm. She's a legend in hockey skating, and in the NHL.

Women are knock kneed, men are bow legged. You're in such a hurry to make a point, you didn't even bother reading. So being knock kneed, they're on their inside edges naturally.

Only if said instructor's ability to teach was limited entirely to "do what I do". If you legitimately know what you're doing, you can see what someone else is doing and modify it to better suit the learning person's anatomy.

It would be just as silly to state a short skating instructor would struggle with fixing Ras.

I bet you don't even know how to skate. You certainly don't know anything about teaching sports. I used to hire and train ski instructors.

"Do what I do" is not teaching, however you have to be able to demonstrate both the issue and how to correct it. A woman would have a hard time demonstrating anything for Raz, he is about the most bowlegged NHL player I've ever seen. It's not impossible, but even a male instructor would have a hard time, otherwise it'd be fixed by now. If he was on skis, I'd send him to a boot fitter right away. Ski boots have adjustable cant (sideways angle).

And height really isn't a concern for demonstrating skating or skiing, since the angles are the same.

 

[norrisnick]

Doubling down. That never fails...

K. Woman coach bad cuz not man. I know skate cuz I know ski and both are done on not quite water so totally the same...

 

[jaster]

Women are knock kneed, men are bow legged. You're in such a hurry to make a point, you didn't even bother reading. So being knock kneed, they're on their inside edges naturally.

Ha, I read what you wrote, but since it's wrong, it doesn't matter if you said knock-kneed or bow-legged, since it's wrong either way lol.

Both sexes experience both, regardless of frequency amongst each sex. Skating coaches of both sexes know how to coach skaters of all leg angles, and it doesn't matter if they are boys or girls.

I bet you don't even know how to skate. You certainly don't know anything about teaching sports. I used to hire and train ski instructors.

"Do what I do" is not teaching, however you have to be able to demonstrate both the issue and how to correct it. A woman would have a hard time demonstrating anything for Raz, he is about the most bowlegged NHL player I've ever seen. It's not impossible, but even a male instructor would have a hard time, otherwise it'd be fixed by now. If he was on skis, I'd send him to a boot fitter right away. Ski boots have adjustable cant (sideways angle).

And height really isn't a concern for demonstrating skating or skiing, since the angles are the same.

Dude, stop. I get that you are a very proud ski instructor, but you're out of your element here. The greatest success in NHL power skating coaching was between a woman instructor and a large number of men of all leg angles. She didn't need to be knock-kneed or bow-legged to successfully instruct better than anyone else. She simply had the knowledge.

The idea that a woman can't effectively teach Michael Rasmussen how to skate better, simply because he's bow-legged, is ridiculous.