Proposal: Good ole Canadian 3 way Leafs-Oilers-Canucks

[YP44]

Reminder that holland let Mrazek go for nothing and he had a bad rep within the organization during Hollands tenure in Detroit.

probably a good point

 

[FerrisRox]

With Edmonton's goaltending woes I wonder if Mrazek has any value to the Oilers?
If so that piece or pieces is most likely going to be part of a deal to acquire Miller.
IIRC a few Vancouver fans were ok with 2022 1st+Amirov+2022 2nd+Ritche for Miller@50%
I would like to lessen the Leaf assets as much as possible by seeing if the Oilers are willing to move an asset that Vancouver fans are interested in.

Mrazek isn't better than either of the current Oilers goaltenders.

Why would they do this?

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

And what? Calgary is going to trade a Vezina candidate to their biggest positional and geographical rival to be nice?

No when he was still with the Canucks before he went to market.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Mrazek is no better than what Edmonton has.

this. Edmonton needs a John Gibson style bonafide starter for the next five years, not more 1B options.

we’re rolling with Koskinen/Skinner for now.

 

[zcaptain]

With Edmonton's goaltending woes I wonder if Mrazek has any value to the Oilers?
If so that piece or pieces is most likely going to be part of a deal to acquire Miller.
IIRC a few Vancouver fans were ok with 2022 1st+Amirov+2022 2nd+Ritche for Miller@50%
I would like to lessen the Leaf assets as much as possible by seeing if the Oilers are willing to move an asset that Vancouver fans are interested in.

vancouver trades..... Miller @50% + Halak
Toronto Trades .......Toronto's 2021-1st, Toronto's 2022-2nd, Knies
Edmonton................Conditional 2022-2nd, which converts to a 2023-2nd if Chicago is awarded their 2022-2nd



Vancouver gets.........Toronto's 2021-1st, Toronto's 2022-2nd, Knies, and Edmonton's 2022-2nd if Chicago does not get it, otherwise 2023-2nd
Toronto get...............Miller @ 50%
Edmonton gets.........Halak

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Zero interest from the Oilers. As other said he's not an upgrade. Plus his 3.8 million thru 23-24. Woof, no thanks.

 

[John Johnson]

Not a question of not wanting Miller, simply a matter of not wanting to throw such a ridiculous haul of assets towards such an endeavour. If the Leafs are trading for Miller at 50%, think along the lines of:

Select One: Kerfoot or Ritchie
Select One: 2022 1st Round Pick, Rodion Amirov, Nick Robertson, Topi Niemla
Select Two: 2023 2nd Round Pick (send back Winnipeg's 2022 3rd), Abramov, SDA, Kokkonen, Abrusezze, Steeves, Dermott (send back Schenn)

Oh so basically you only want to give up 1 decent asset in order to aquire a player like Miller. If you want a trade like that to happen then you're taking Miller at 100%.

 

[John Johnson]

What? The Leafs would like a player like that - every team would. What they would want and no team wants is to massively overpay for JT Miller a player who is neither of those things.

Sorry Miller is neither of what things?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Sorry Miller is neither of what things?

a top line, PPG, power forward who brings the emotion and will the leafs obviously are missing in the playoffs every year.

 

[elitepete]

Sure, I wouldn't massively overpay like that. I don't think Miller is a good a player as you think and I don't think he would be on the top line.

1st+good but not elite prospect+2nd+cap dump is an overpayment?

 

[elitepete]

a top line, PPG, power forward who brings the emotion and will the leafs obviously are missing in the playoffs every year.

He’s all of those things except maybe powerforward. If you really want to nitpick on what a powerforward is, he’s a skilled winger that is strong down low and plays with physicality and grit.

 

[Leaf Fans]

1st+good but not elite prospect+2nd+cap dump is an overpayment?

No, but a 2022 1st+Amirov+2022 2nd+Ritche for Miller@50% certainly is. I am not a big fan of Miller though.

 

[Leaf Fans]

He’s all of those things except maybe powerforward. If you really want to nitpick on what a powerforward is, he’s a skilled winger that is strong down low and plays with physicality and grit.

Yes, he is a good player.

 

[elitepete]

No, but a 2022 1st+Amirov+2022 2nd+Ritche for Miller@50% certainly is. I am not a big fan of Miller though.

In other words, 1st+good but not elite prospect+2nd+cap dump is an overpayment?

 

[Leaf Fans]

In other words, 1st+good but not elite prospect+2nd+cap dump is an overpayment?

No, a 2022 1st+Amirov+2022 2nd+Ritche - no cap dump an excellent prospect and a 2022 first.

 

[elitepete]

No, a 2022 1st+Amirov+2022 2nd+Ritche - no cap dump an excellent prospect and a 2022 first.

Ritchie is a cap dump to 31 teams in the league. Maybe 32.

Amirov is not an elite prospect.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Ritchie is a cap dump to 31 teams in the league. Maybe 32.

Amirov is not an elite prospect.

In your opinion- not mine. We can have different ideas about a players. BTW I said excellent not elite. I am also a fan of Ritchie.

 

[elitepete]

In your opinion- not mine. We can have different ideas about a players. BTW I said excellent not elite. I am also a fan of Ritchie.

Your original reply to me implied that you disagreed with my assessment of Amirov not being an elite prospect.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Your original reply to me implied that you disagreed with my assessment of Amirov not being an elite prospect.

No, you asked if I thought "1st+good but not elite prospect+2nd+cap dump is an overpayment? " and I said that No, but a"2022 1st+Amirov+2022 2nd+Ritche for Miller@50% certainly is. [an over payment] then you said "In other words, 1st+good but not elite prospect+2nd+cap dump is an over payment? "and I said no. As with that package, there was no cap dump, it includes an excellent prospect and a 2022 first. Then you decided that 31 or 32 team would consider Ritchie a cap dump and I said that we can have different opinions on players.

 

[John Johnson]

Let's remember here that not all 1st round picks are equivalent in value.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Dubas with another move they didn't need... Mrazek for 3 years at $3.8M. With the Rielly extension, something has to give and they clearly want to re-sign Campbell.

14 players under contract next year with $6.2M in cap space. Leafs going to be shopping to move Mrazek, Kerfoot, Richie, over and over and over again.

 

[archangel2]

Mrazek is mediocre and often injured. If we thought he was a definite upgrade we would have been in on him when he only cost money in UFA.

When did he have any real value

 

[BrannigansLaw]

In other words, 1st+good but not elite prospect+2nd+cap dump is an overpayment?

yes

 

[JarvisFunk]

No when he was still with the Canucks before he went to market.

And what? Vancouver was going to trade a Vezina candidate to one of their biggest positional (at that point) and geographical rivals to be nice?

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Ah yes, let the Oilers help the leafs get off the hook for the bad deal they signed Mzarek to.

Why would the Oilers take Mzarek for free? Let alone send assets for him?