GDT: Golden Knights vs Senators | Caption This! Edition | Nov 8th, 7:30 PM @ CTC

[Upgrayedd]

Boy did that interference call end the game pretty quickly, too bad as it would have likely been an exciting ending imo. Haven't bothered to read today's version of the GI rule as its ever changing, I always operated that if the goalie has some portion of their body in the blue paint they generally get free reign barring anything crazy, even if contact is initiated the optics here were hilarious. I know 1 thing for certain, reverse the situations and 100% its a no goal and is not debated and were likely on the PK....that Silvferberg call LOL

 

[supsens]

Excellent question... I am not sure about his statement about almost all teams but .. certainly agree with it on this team

You dont want your best players blocking shots and using up all that energy

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Compare this goaltending interference call to the no call last night

I stopped watching early in the second period but I am not sure that was goalie interférence: Carrier does not enter the blue paint and Anderson initiates contact by reaching out with his leg.

As far as the Silf on Price call, we all know how the refs treat games in Montréal.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I used to agree with this take, but it stands to reason that there are players on your team that have skills that aren't purely offensive.

Sure, hockey players aren't as specialized as, say, football players, where you wouldn't want a linebacker returning a punt. But it's an extreme example that serves the point... there are players with defensive aptitudes that don't necessarily score so much. They're probably good PK'ers. And if the offensive talent on your team would be just as good at PK, why would a coach tire them out on a PK unit? They should be saved for 5 v 5 and PP.

If Tyler is baffled, it's because he's a simpleton.

You dont want your best players blocking shots and using up all that energy

IMO being 31st in the league is a problem , people should be asking questions about. Is it all system or is it a combination of system and personnel used. I don't disagree with either of your takes but .. imo Pyatt and Pajaarvi combined with Ceci and Boro who have been our primary PK guys have not stood up... Smith and Pageau would be our top 2 guys if here and they are not 4th liners on this team. Sens PK is 31st , 67.3%.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I stopped watching early in the second period but I am not sure that was goalie interférence: Carrier does not enter the blue paint and Anderson initiates contact by reaching out with his leg.

As far as the Silf on Price call, we all know how the refs treat games in Montréal.

Its an interesting call. If a goalie initiates contact with a player and that player loses his balance , falling on the goalie and thereby not allowing him to move into a position to stop the puck... we don't call that interference, it opens an ugly door imo.

 

[Flamingo]

IMO being 31st in the league is a problem , people should be asking questions about. Is it all system or is it a combination of system and personnel used. I don't disagree with either of your takes but .. imo Pyatt and Pajaarvi combined with Ceci and Boro who have been our primary PK guys have not stood up... Smith and Pageau would be our top 2 guys if here and they are not 4th liners on this team. Sens PK is 31st , 67.3%.

Agreed, we need Pageau on the PK. I think Formenton is a good PK'er too, though there's no sense keeping him up just to PK.

There are a lot of middle-tier players that would probably be better PK'ing forwards than Pyatt and Pajaarvi.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

The moment GB paired him with Ceci we all knew this was going to happen. Ceci needs to GTFO before he ruins another partner.

Maybe Ceci ruined Weircoch and Cowen, not the other way around.

 

[HSF]

does this take into account matchups?

I would think Ceci and his partner would get tougher matchups

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

does this take into account matchups?

I would think Ceci and his partner would get tougher matchups

All matchups are tough when Ceci is on the ice.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

does this take into account matchups?

I would think Ceci and his partner would get tougher matchups

I would say no... seems to be straight Corsi, no QoC or QoT into consideration... but we know Ceci has failed in that role with every partner.

 

[HSF]

I would say no... seems to be straight Corsi, no QoC or QoT into consideration... but we know Ceci has failed in that role with every partner.

Ya he isn't made for such a role but it seems like atleast right now he is the only who can play it

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Its an interesting call. If a goalie initiates contact with a player and that player loses his balance , falling on the goalie and thereby not allowing him to move into a position to stop the puck... we don't call that interference, it opens an ugly door imo.

I think the reality of it is that it depends and that's why we have video review.

I am not sure I'd say the wrong call was made because Carrier stayed out of the blue paint and the goalie initiated contact. I see your point but you also gotta draw the line somewhere and have goalies be responsible for their movement out of the paint as well.

 

[DaveMatthew]

Ceci makes the players he plays with worse, as does Borowiecki.

The sooner those two are off the team, the better. Defensemen need to be able to handle the puck while skating, and neither can do that.

 

[Multigrain]

I did like the small sample size I saw at the beginning of the season of Chabot and Wideman.
I even liked Harpur in there better than I like it now. They need to either trade Wideman or give him enough minutes to get going. Same with Nick Paul give the guy some minutes.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Ceci is atrocious. I can count numerous times the puck gets lost in his skates right infront of the net or behind the net or anywhere in defensive zone. He is abysmal. I have no idea why we always wait so long before getting rid of a player after they've caused mass negative destruction.

Lajoie literally became obsolete with Ceci, amazing.

 

[topshelf15]

Our coach needs to fix this team,or we need a new coach

 

[Multigrain]

Lajoie really had a tough game last night. Maybe it was the 7D but I am hoping this is not a trend. The coach didn't make alot of adjustments. Marc Crawford needs to figure something out.

 

[Multigrain]

Ceci is atrocious. I can count numerous times the puck gets lost in his skates right infront of the net or behind the net or anywhere in defensive zone. He is abysmal. I have no idea why we always wait so long before getting rid of a player after they've caused mass negative destruction.

Lajoie literally became obsolete with Ceci, amazing.

Who knows he is local and they love him. Guy and Pierre especially.

 

[Multigrain]

Ceci makes the players he plays with worse, as does Borowiecki.

The sooner those two are off the team, the better. Defensemen need to be able to handle the puck while skating, and neither can do that.

I agree. I blame the coaching 100%. Boro needs to step away from all his media duties and focus on hockey.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

The same people that are costing us games and not contributing anything to offset their terribleness night after night.

Tom Pyatt
Cody Ceci
Magnus Paarjvi
Mark Boroweicki
Raymond's terrible PK
Crawford's terrible defense structure allowing 40 shots a night.
Boucher continuing reluctance on leaning on the 4 above mentioned names night after night for the past 2 years is killing my interest this year in watching games. He hasn't learned and will never learn. Stubborn as f*** and its painful to watch the same thing over and over and over and over again.

 

[topshelf15]

The same people that are costing us games and not contributing anything to offset their terribleness night after night.

Tom Pyatt
Cody Ceci
Magnus Paarjvi
Mark Boroweicki
Raymond's terrible PK
Crawford's terrible defense structure allowing 40 shots a night.
Boucher continuing reluctance on leaning on the 4 above mentioned names night after night for the past 2 years is killing my interest this year in watching games. He hasn't learned and will never learn. Stubborn as **** and its painful to watch the same thing over and over and over and over again.

Yeah we need a real coach brought in,but that costs money ...And havent seen one walk on water yet so

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Ceci makes the players he plays with worse, as does Borowiecki.

The sooner those two are off the team, the better. Defensemen need to be able to handle the puck while skating, and neither can do that.

So much this.

 

[HabsQC]

This has Sakic's fingerprints all over it. Damn you SAKIC!!!!!!!

I thought of that exactly.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Excellent question... I am not sure about his statement about almost all teams but .. certainly agree with it on this team

I think its about distribution of minutes and the fact that a PK's success is determined more by structure and system than it is about the players who are out there. It's not about them being the best players for the role, its about them being least suited for other roles. Basically anyone with an NHL skillset should be able to PK effectively, so long as the structure and system are there - not anyone can operate well within a powerplay or play against top defensive matchups and still produce, though.

Just my theory. @Flamingo brings up some valid points as well imo.

 

[Sensung]

Our coach needs to fix this team,or we need a new coach

The coach is trying to compete in the NHL with an AHL+ roster.