GDT: Gold Medal Game: Canada Vs Russia | 1:00PM EST 7PM CET

[NorCalhockey]

Russia and Sweden are football nations first.

Russia and Sweden these new generations are losers at WJC level under 20 and under 18 from 2013 to today they have both 0 gold medals and at u 18 Sweden has one gold.. Russia and Sweden definitely not as great expectations for future hockey in 2020's as Canada Usa and Finland they are clearly big 3 in hockey next decade at men's level if best againts best tournaments come to play.

I’m not sure that’s the best reason for Sweden/Russia not winning gold in WJC or U18. In my country (USA) hockey is maybe #4 (or lower) sport and is doing ok.

 

[Jagemon]

Wrong for what?

Thats a bold strategy Cotton, lets see if it pays out.

That rulebook speaks about jumbotron and, well the roof itself. Camera is NOT above the ice surface so it should have been a penalty. Cleaf enough?

 

[snipes]

Well, despite 'cameragate'.. amazing comeback by Canada. Well deserved gold. 3 straight goals in third is outstanding heart. They lost to Russia in round robin and went on to steamroll everyone on way to finals after winning their pool!

Russia was up 3-1 with 10 minutes left in 3rd. It easily could have been a loss but the Canadians never quit and battled until the very end. That’s why we won.

 

[aphyro]

I'm not even Russian, but read your comment again and tell me who's cocky!?

The Russians during Sweden game... how they acted on the field and some of their supporters on this forum.

 

[Knave]

THEY DID BLEW THE CALL.

CAMERA

NOT OBJECT ABOVE ICE SURFACE

Can I make it any clearer for you?

Repeatedly saying something does not make it true.

 

[The Man with a Plan]

I miss TSN for hockey, they do it much better than Rogers

Except for their taste in music...

 

[FinPanda]

Again, you're wrong. Read the tweet you posted.

Then I am wrong, doesn't change the winner though.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Here's my definitive opinion on this camera thing being a penalty:

remember when the Russian goaltender threw all of his gear off and rolled around on the ice for some reason?

Remember when Ty Dellandrea got a shove in a faceoff and threw his body back like he was hit by a train?

 

[ECanuck]

Russia could have had a 9 on 3 and would have found a way to mess this game up.

 

[Ronnie Residue]

Except for their taste in music...

Don’t you forget your rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooots

 

[Captain And Coke]

TIL that above is not synonymous with "higher than".

 

[KCC]

After watching the highlights, I feel bad for Russia. They def got screwed. Lol. But that’s sports. Bad calls happen.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Repeatedly saying something does not make it true.

RULE 135 – DELAY OF GAME/SHOOTING OR THROWING THE PUCK OUT OF PLAY i. A player who shoots, throws, kicks, or bats the puck directly out of the playing area from inside his defending zone anywhere in the rink (except where there is no protective glass) during game action, without any deflection, will be assessed a minor penalty. The determining factor will be the position of the puck when it is played. ii. No penalty will be assessed if a player shoots the puck directly over the boards at the players’ benches but not over the protective glass behind the players’ benches. iii. No penalty will be assessed if a player shoots the puck directly over the boards at any areas of the rink without protective glass directly above the boards. iv. A player who deliberately shoots the puck out of play anywhere on the ice during play or after a stoppage will be assessed a minor penalty. v. A player who lifts the puck from the defending zone and hits the scoreclock or any structural object above the ice surface, causing a stoppage of play, will not be assessed a penalty.

The camera isn't above the ice surface.

 

[Icebreakers]

If the puck hits the glass and falls into the penalty box it’s not a penalty. Don’t try to argue the intent of that idiotic rule. And part of the camera is inside the glass.

The area where the puck hit the Camera was out of play therefore its a penalty. Out of play means out of play. There are distinct and clear boundaries of in play and out of play. The puck went over the glass and went out of play. Therefore, its a penalty.

 

[D0ctorCool]

Yesterday's game with Sweden Russia did more good than today in my opinion. Today we started to make old mistakes with which started a 1st game with CZ. Everything the same.

It feels like we gifted Canada a gold. After leading 1:0 it's dumb to get 5 on 3. Then when we had 3:1 in the 3d they scored lucky goal, okay, happens. But next goals was from stupid PP and a mistake. Russia can blame only itself for that. In this sense it's a pity to lose with a good team. I would understand if Canada made dozens monents (like in 2012 in 1/2), but they did not. The 3d period went very good for us and it felt like here is the gold and we can score even more but oh well. I do not like when we have a good team. Too big hopes.

Anyways gg and the classic continues: one team not winning 2 times.

Sometimes the better team loses. I think this was one of those times. Russia played powerful hockey.

 

[ruaware41]

Man I wish I grew up playing hockey and could make it that far. What a moment it must be for these kids

 

[NyQuil]

A shame there had to be a winner.

Refs too involved in this one for it to be a classic for the ages, though it certainly had its moments. Kids adapt to what is getting called so I’m not surprised people started trying to embellish. The refs lost control of the game and it was kind of sad to see them receiving awards at the end of the game.

It’s tough to see those kinds of calls happen at the end of tight games so I certainly feel for the Russian kids. They fought very hard and played a complete game which I feel Russian teams failed to do at times in the past.

At the same time, I can’t downplay the impact of the immediate response to make it 2-3 after Russia probably felt like they salted it away, Hayton’s statement goal on the PP, and Thomas’ incredible individual effort that will likely be replayed for years to come.

Nice for Canada to gain a measure of revenge for the 6-0 drubbing and bring home the gold.

 

[FinPanda]

RULE 135 – DELAY OF GAME/SHOOTING OR THROWING THE PUCK OUT OF PLAY i. A player who shoots, throws, kicks, or bats the puck directly out of the playing area from inside his defending zone anywhere in the rink (except where there is no protective glass) during game action, without any deflection, will be assessed a minor penalty. The determining factor will be the position of the puck when it is played. ii. No penalty will be assessed if a player shoots the puck directly over the boards at the players’ benches but not over the protective glass behind the players’ benches. iii. No penalty will be assessed if a player shoots the puck directly over the boards at any areas of the rink without protective glass directly above the boards. iv. A player who deliberately shoots the puck out of play anywhere on the ice during play or after a stoppage will be assessed a minor penalty. v. A player who lifts the puck from the defending zone and hits the scoreclock or any structural object above the ice surface, causing a stoppage of play, will not be assessed a penalty.

The camera isn't above the ice surface.

 

[Divine]

Thats a bold strategy Cotton, lets see if it pays out.

That rulebook speaks about jumbotron and, well the roof itself. Camera is NOT above the ice surface so it should have been a penalty. Cleaf enough?

The camera is above the ice surface

 

[NyQuil]

Sometimes the better team loses. I think this was one of those times. Russia played powerful hockey.

When that happens, you need your goalie to step up. Canada hasn’t had that kind of goaltender performance in what seems like a long time.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

THEY DID BLEW THE CALL.

CAMERA

NOT OBJECT ABOVE ICE SURFACE

Can I make it any clearer for you?

Yes, you can make it clearer. From the way your post is constructed, it appears as though you're implying that a camera is not an object.

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Oh you work for the IIHF? You wrote their rules?

Rules are not meant to be understood by only whoever wrote it. If there is uncertainty over the understanding of the rule, the writers are liable of not doing their job properly, which is to make rules objectively understood.

Agree to disagree.

So let’s just say it was a missed call. Let’s the give Russia a goal for arguments sake. Then take one away for that garbage holding call.

Canada still wins.

I don't care about prior calls. I'm not saying Canada didn't get f***ed on some calls/non-calls, because they did. But I'm only discussing this specific instance.

These are the two possible interpretation of the rule (note the bracket, you'll understand how it can be interpreted differently) :
1) A player who lifts the puck from the defending zone and hits the scoreclock or [any structural object above the ice surface], causing a stoppage of play, will not be assessed a penalty

Under this interpretation, the puck hit a structural which has a small overhang above the ice surface and could therefore be considered a "structural object above the ice surface".​

2) A player who lifts the puck from the defending zone and hits [the scoreclock or any structural object] above the ice surface, causing a stoppage of play, will not be assessed a penalty

Under this interpretation, the puck hit a structural object (the camera) while the puck was out of the ice boundaries.
​

In my opinion, interpretation #1 goes against the spirit and intent of the rule, which is, I assume (with a high level of confidence) to avoid having to project the trajectory of the puck had it not hit it before leaving the boundaries of the ice. It simply does not make any sense. In that case, one could argue the netting above the glass behind the goal line is a structural object and no penalty shall be assessed, yet a penalty is called if a player shoots on the netting from the defensive zone. Or, to exaggerate things, if a player shot a puck outside the ice boundaries, but it hits a pipe that has a part above the ice surface, it could be interpreted as it not being a penalty. It makes no sense.

 

[Mikeshane]

Akil "The Real Deal" Thomas.

 

[goonybird]

Tonight on MSNBC: Cameras used to be Russia's greatest asset, but now? Cameras are rebuking their former masters to help their North American - and polar - rival.