GDT: [GM60] Vancouver Canucks @ Seattle Kraken | Sat, Mar. 1st | 7:00pm | HNIC | The Last Game For...

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I think you have to let these guys play through it, and that means giving them some zone starts. I don’t think giving them 0 O Zone starts / dropping them from the first PP is going to help in this case.

Also, think it’s kind of unfair that DeBrusk gets the same treatment as Petey here. He’s streaky, but he’s still leading the team in goals and largely living up to his contract.

 

[Soups On]

Petey 5 point game
Boeser hat trick
30+ shots
And a "we're so back, baby"
Maximum cope tonight

 

[theguardianII]

You'd think that Tocchet would have just unleashed the hounds and let the boys fly by the seat of their pants.

Last 45 games. .511 hockey, 8th worst in the league.
2.58 GPG good for 3rd last in the league. 18th best GAPG.
PP and PK both mid pack.
2nd last in Shots for. 8th best in Shots against.

Too little too late. They are still playing not to lose, for the OTL points, the safe play.
I have posted before that the loser points skew the standings.
It is easier to play for a tie than a win.
14 W's = 28pts, 66 L's can get a team into the playoffs 14W -0 -66 OTL = 92 pts with a losing win/loss record but a winning points percentage record. This happened to the Canucks in the past. The Naslund,"we choked" year. when Colorado had more points but fewer wins and won the division

Tocchet has played them too hard too long. How much weight they have lost who knows. Sherwood isn't hitting as much and later now. Playing the way Tocchet wants builds up a physical debt, that is why he has never been a winning coach in 9 years except for last year. Players just get burned out and recovery becomes spotty.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I expect the GDT will be the usual gong show. Probably going to be more entertaining than the hockey game, in the same way getting stabbed walking home is more interesting than not getting stabbed.

 

[TruGr1t]

You'd think that Tocchet would have just unleashed the hounds and let the boys fly by the seat of their pants.

Last 45 games. .511 hockey, 8th worst in the league.
2.58 GPG good for 3rd last in the league. 18th best GAPG.
PP and PK both mid pack.
2nd last in Shots for. 8th best in Shots against.

Doesn't really matter what he does ... if Pettersson continues to be a total drag on everyone the forward roster is completely broken. In fact, his best bet to actually win games given the defense and goaltending are decent (and Pettersson is playing at being a bottom-six shut-down centre) is probably exactly what he's doing.

 

[ManVanFan]

Doesn't really matter what he does ... if Pettersson continues to be a total drag on everyone the forward roster is completely broken. In fact, his best bet to actually win games given the defense and goaltending are decent (and Pettersson is playing at being a bottom-six shut-down centre) is probably exactly what he's doing.

I don't agree.

 

[TruGr1t]

I don't agree.

Whatever, they are a bad team. No matter how you ice it they'll be lucky to run .500.

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

Seattle isn’t a good team, they are middling and don’t have strong defense and a potent offence, their goaltending is average at best

We are either gonna squeeze out a Victory or lose in sad fashion and DAMN YOU VANCOUVER FOR MAKING ME WAKE UP ON A BEAUTIFUL SATURDAY MORNING AND HAVE TO FEEL THESE FEELINGS

 

[ManVanFan]

Whatever, they are a bad team. No matter how you ice it they'll be lucky to run .500.

Same thing was said end of TG era and Bruce came in and ran them to a .649 win percentage by telling them to go score.

 

[TruGr1t]

Same thing was said end of TG era and Bruce came in and ran them to a .649 win percentage by telling them to go score.

You're missing all the ingredients for that, including JT Miller breaking out as a top-line centre, Pettersson actually being good, and Demko going into God mode. The roster overall is substantially worse.

 

[valkynax]

I know you guys mentioned this multiple times but somehow no one posted the actual video.

 

[theguardianII]

You're missing all the ingredients for that, including JT Miller breaking out as a top-line centre, Pettersson actually being good, and Demko going into God mode. The roster overall is substantially worse.

Your opinion is based on years or decades of watching the game, listening to the rhetoric and enduring fanatical unreasonable expectations of wagon jumpers and instant gratification demands and those negative outcomes.

Some poster will declare that this team, regardless of where they finish in the standings are right there only a player away or they will blame the weather for only winning 1/3 of the games.
Currently the Canucks WIN/LOSS record is 27 W and 32 L of which there are 6 OT/SO wins.
They have 11 loser points added to their total skewing the standings and making it harder to understand good from bad for some fans.

 

[LuckyDay]

Barry Pederson registered almost a point a game a season for the first two years he was in Vancouver before injuries saddles his career. Stop coveting back Cam Neely who was a bum in Vancouver and couldn't hit the net.
We're throwing our guys under the bus like we always do. We loved Mat Cooke, Todd Bertuzzi, and even Cloutier until we traded them away. There's dozens of guys like that we've done that to.

I'm now holding my breath until you stop. Hhhhhmmmmmm.

 

[M2Beezy]

i just want petterson off the team at this point hes a loser

But we just traded for him a month ago and signed him to a 6 year contract, not to mention hes looked really good so far. No way I want him off the team!

 

[ManVanFan]

You're missing all the ingredients for that, including JT Miller breaking out as a top-line centre, Pettersson actually being good, and Demko going into God mode. The roster overall is substantially worse.

You think this roster is worse than that roster? You're crazy. Short term memory of what that roster looked like clearly.

 

[TruGr1t]

You think this roster is worse than that roster? You're crazy. Short term memory of what that roster looked like clearly.

At the top-end it is unquestionably worse except for Hughes (though he is also obviously not at 100%), subtract elite-level Miller, Vezina Demko, and Pettersson now sucks. Boeser is also nowhere near the levels he's played at over the past couple years without Miller. Your top-end talent is what wins you games.

 

[ManVanFan]

At the top-end it is unquestionably worse except for Hughes (though he is also obviously not at 100%), subtract elite-level Miller, Vezina Demko, and Pettersson now sucks. Boeser is also nowhere near the levels he's played at over the past couple years without Miller. Your top-end talent is what wins you games.

No middle, no bottom, no defence on that team would absolutely make up for Miller because Petey had 68 points in 82 games that year. He's not far off that this year. Lankinen has been good. Silovs goaltending is what got Bruce fired.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

honestly coaching staff needs to stop f***ing around and just run a pp of petey at center with debrusk and boeser. put boeser in the bumper. if you have to, replace debrusk with a corner guy. then hughes and hronek at the point, because for now while he’s not at full strength quinn needs someone with confidence (ie, not boeser or petey) to share qb responsibilities. plus having a shot to draw coverage wouldn’t hurt, being that no one else will shoot ever.

no more of this our old excellent third line is now our expansion-level first line so they are also our pp1 up front.

if we are going to suck on the pp at least suck with the best players.

 

[racerjoe]

I also don’t understand why our coach doesn’t keep Sherwood with Petey and Debris,. Together they have all played much better, yet we seem to always move away from it.

 

[TruGr1t]

No middle, no bottom, no defence on that team would absolutely make up for Miller because Petey had 68 points in 82 games that year. He's not far off that this year. Lankinen has been good. Silovs goaltending is what got Bruce fired.

Pettersson has 7 points in his last 19 games, that's a 30-point pace. He has 9 points in his last 26 games. He's got similar even-strength production to Sam Lafferty.

 

[Cogburn]

Sit Pettersson.

DeBrusk-Suter-Boeser
Joshua-Chytil-Garland
O'Connor-Blueger-Sherwood
Hoglander-Aman-Bains
Hughes-Hronek
Pettersson-Myers
Pettersson-Soucy

 

[ManVanFan]

Pettersson has 7 points in his last 19 games, that's a 30-point pace. He has 9 points in his last 26 games.

Clayton Keller
Under Tocchet 290 games 191 points 54 point pace.
Since Tocchet left 286 games 294 points 83 point pace.

Petey does what's asked of him. Tocchet wanted him to play defence, he's playing defence.