Post-Game Talk: [GM29] Bruins def. Canucks | 5-1 | Sasson | Maximum Effort

Bourne Endeavor

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If he had managed to pull off the rumored deal of Necas, Kotkaniemi, a 1st rounder and another top prospect (Morrow?) for Pettersson, he would look like a top 5 GM in the league right now.

And they easily could've signed Zadorov at 5M instead of Myers at 3M. Zadorov isn't having a great season but for 2M more, he would be a massive upgrade over Myers.

He just as easily could have looked like a complete moron if Pettersson went on to score 100+ points in Carolina. We also have no idea how legitimate that rumor was. Necas never showed he had another step like this either. It was a risk no matter what he did but it's hard to bet against an existing 100 point player over hoping the guy you acquire becomes one.

As for Zadorov. My bigger complaint here isn't that we allowed him to walk but rather replaced him with nothing. They went for the "by community" approach but seemingly vastly overestimated our players. I suspect they thought Juulsen would take a step and that Soucy was a legit 3-4.

Tocchets lost the room and all the facts are there to prove it.

Where are these facts exactly? Literally three days ago they flattened the defending cup champs and everything was sunshine and roses. One bad game later and they "gave up" on the coach? Come on.
 

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Dismal is putting it mildly. Without Hughes, the D they dressed is in the bottom third or quarter in the NHL, at best. Clearly can't win with that.
 

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As if it wasn't obvious

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Good god were Brannstrom and Friedman dreadful. Any hope either one of them could swap to the right should be more or less dashed after last night. I know it's only one game but neither has looked great beforehand, particularly Brannstrom.

Bit surprised to see Blueger down in the dumpster.
 
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Heinen, Hoglander, Desharnais, Soucy

Looks like this was a good one to miss. My son crushed it at his high school play, although the highlight was one of the singing Santa’s pants falling down during a big musical number. That was probably still more entertaining than this game would have been.

Nice to see Sasson score his first. Pity it came in a stinker, but awesome to see an undrafted kid score his first NHL goal on home ice.

Sasson has been excellent and deserves to stay in the lineup. He's another Sherwood.
 

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There's some weird stuff happening behind the scenes with this team

Mopey Petey's disappearing act
Miller's mysterious absence with Elliott saying "his teammates need to bend and he needs to bend"
Tocchet appearing to get more and more frustrated every game and now saying some guys aren't emotionally invested
So many games the team just gives absolutely no effort, doesn't follow instructions, and just free skates however the F they please. That NEVER happened last year - it was balls out and adhering to the system almost every game

Other teams have crap D too and they still win (see: Oilers)
Wonder if it's less of a hockey issue and more an indication of some major off-ice issues
Exactly this. Don't understand how a vast majority here don't see something very very wrong in the room. Tocchet is the head coach. This is his responsibility. It's up to him to fix it!
 

rypper

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I think Tocchet's job is safe. The team is 8th in the west with games in hand on basically everyone chasing them and ahead of them. The circumstances of the season and the hand he's been dealt, would another coach have them any better?

Yes there's been some games they've started flat, roster decisions i don't agree with, and some weird funk filling up the locker room but Tocchet is their guy and I think he's got a lot more leash.
 

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I think Tocchet's job is safe. The team is 8th in the west with games in hand on basically everyone chasing them and ahead of them. The circumstances of the season and the hand he's been dealt, would another coach have them any better?

Yes there's been some games they've started flat, roster decisions i don't agree with, and some weird funk filling up the locker room but Tocchet is their guy and I think he's got a lot more leash.
He ain't going anywhere anytime soon. He has time to fix this. But he better get his act together soon for his own sake as well as ours lol.
 
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I feel a part of this game was kismet. The universe's way of tying loose ends. 11 years ago IIRC there was a certain je-ne-sais-quoi in the air. I shit you not, I'm going here. But Rask got a knuckler in that game from Hansen I believe, to this day I believe the air pressure in the building was funky because of the storm outside but I may be wrong. I wasn't exactly with the living and breathing at this time.

Anyways, funny enough, I felt the same driving into work today. Just something weird about this weather system. Sure enough, Marchand gets a moment in the game to address the fans just like that game. I can't even be mad at this point. It's like a cockroach that you've tried to stamp out so many times, you're just kind of impressed he's still around. 5-1 loss in our worst game of the season, last time was 6-2 our best of the season (well, really mostly just Santorelli).

What this means for this season I haven't the slightest.



One of two marquee players will be done in Vancouver after this season is my unfortunate prediction. And I hope they make the correct but difficult decision.

@VanJack Jim is correct, but we are still a "playoff team". The undercurrent for catastrophe is here, but I'm actually for once optimistic in the short term. We're not kidding ourselves, we're a definitely true blue playoff team. But we aren't a "always bet on black" contender. Honestly just adding 1 guy if he's the right guy and this could be, talent-wise, not league-measuring-stick-wise, perhaps the best team the Canucks have iced...when healthy.
Uhhhhh
 

mathonwy

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That’s gotta be one of the worst games I’ve seen in awhile.

I thought we were past these types of games.

I guess not.
 

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They'll make a move soon, Aquilini can't allow this:


They raised prices significantly after one good season, and are playing like a team contending for Hagens at home. You can't charge Maple Leafs prices with Ducks quality home games.

The boys need to get back to their business-like mentality from last year. Getting crazy 2007/2008 vibes from the team, where you had Luongo (Hughes) playing like a Hart contender, injuries all over the place, people blaming the coach after they showed they're one of the best in the biz the year before, and management not addressing the big hole on the team (scoring for that team, puck moving for this one).

Heck they even did the same thing that off-season acquiring Aaron Miller (Forbert/Deshernais) instead of addressing the real issues :laugh:

Hopefully this goes the way of 1994 instead, because this team has shown they can dominate when (a) the guys are all emotionally invested, and (b) when the blueline decides it's capable of making a 5 foot pass instead of icing the puck. Just gotta hope that Jeff Brown + Hedican trade is around the corner.
 
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potatowejj

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Tocchet did mention a flu bug was running around the locker room right now. Not sure if how much it did so against Florida, but it’s a potential modest factor here.
 

Bobby9

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Dak
Soucy
Hog
BOESER

Would be my guess for the players he singling out. Maybe Dak is still getting a pass.

Looks like EP and JT cannot co exist.
 

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