GDT: GM08 | Vancouver Canucks vs Carolina Hurricanes | Mon. Oct 28th | 7pm PST | SNP | Time for a Challenge

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Oh no Juulsen please

I wonder if someone is banged up. I don't think anyone has played at a level that would merit them coming out of the lineup for Juulsen otherwise.

 

[Vector]

Overall Game:
-players are trying to search for a 60 minutes game
-2nd period, of the last game, was great but let the foot off the gas
-not happy about their game but are signs they are playing well
-being careful not to over-analyze
Rushing Attack:
-rush game in the 2nd period won last game for them
-working on their rush opportunities
-rushing puts indecision into the other team

Joshua:
-getting closer and closer
-need to get 3-on-3 and coverage stuff underway
-talking every day and seeing how he's feeling
-was down after the diagnosis but over the last 6 weeks has got the happiness back
-has dealt with this really well
-Wednesday is a stretch for Joshua to return
-doesn't know if he plays on the road trip but is getting close

Bains:
-had a talk a couple weeks ago at finding an identity
-is chipping away at doing that
-is a quick player that can put points on the board
-learning to be responsible and making the right plays
-has added speed to the 4th line
-tells young guys that they need to find an identity
-Sprong and Bains attitude when they are scratched has been very good
-need to work with the coaches when you don't play
-Bains, and Sprong, do a lot of video with the coaches

Transition Game:
-middle of the ice is important to the team
-guys were coming back to the defensive zone, looking for the transition, then taking off but leaving the middle of the ice open
-analytics show it's starting to get better
-can't sacrifice who they are

Brannstrom:
-last game there were two instances where they needed a guy like him to make a play
-his play will dictate if he stays in the lineup
-if he can add the fast transition element to the team, that's a huge boost
-keeps playing this way will make it hard to take him out of the lineup

Goalies:
-Lankinen will play tonight
-Silovs has to get in; either next game or after that
-thought Silovs last start was pretty good
-doesn't want to sit Silovs on the bench much longer

Tonight's Lineup:
-pretty much the same
-thinking of making a defensive change but not sure yet

Hurricanes:
-play a fast game so need to limit your turnovers
-need to box them out and know where your man is
-can't be "bird watching"; staring at the puck
-know what the Hurricanes want to do
-Canucks play similar to them so assumes it will be a fast game

Brind'Amour:
-passionate guy
-well-like by his team
-almost like Tortorella; play to an identity and don't care about how the other team is going to play

DeBrusk:
-still trying to find a few things and learn the system
-if he plays a little more predictable and inside, his game will come
-watching video tapes with coaches
-not worried about him
-glimpses he'll come out of this
-stay close to Miller and forecheck with him, you'll get a lot of chances
-come up with lose pucks and you'll get a lot of chances

Forbort:
-not an option in this game
-needs some time

 

[kanucks25]

100 McDonald's cheeseburgers seems like very little for an entire team, and that's not even including like the dozen+ non-players they probably have with them.

 

[Tact]

Oh no Juulsen please

Why is Juulsen still here?

 

[EpochLink]

Why is Juulsen still here?

Beats me

 

[arttk]

Why is Juulsen still here?

don't want to expose him to waivers is the most probable reason

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

We always seem to play well against the Hurricanes, dating back to the infamous stick break celly by Burrows.

 

[Vector]

I wonder if they play Juulsen as a test to see if he can be a fit with Brannstrom and if not he becomes one of the players they look at waiving in order to make room for Joshua.

 

[thecupismine]

We always seem to play well against the Hurricanes, dating back to the infamous stick break celly by Burrows.

Was at this game, I remember going crazy - that losing streak was painful, but the turnaround afterwards was equally crazy. Super fun season of hockey and laid the groundwork for some amazing teams.

It was during this losing streak I threw a couple pieces of popcorn down from the upper bowl and my dad threatened to never let me go to a game again if I got that caught up in the results again

 

[Tact]

I wonder if they play Juulsen as a test to see if he can be a fit with Brannstrom and if not he becomes one of the players they look at waiving in order to make room for Joshua.

Thank you for providing logic. I can understand this reasoning. Maybe it’ll be their only opportunity to play him, especially with Forbort being back soon.

 

[MS]

Feel like the Canes are a better opponent for Silovs to regain confidence since they tend spam more lower % shots and have less high end finishers compared to NJ but we'll see.

Except Silovs' problem is that he struggles with low-percentage point shots, which is basically what Carolina spam at opposition nets.

As an aside, I suspect you can probably use % of shots taken by defenders as a predictor of PDO. Carolina last year was at 32% and we were at 27%.

 

[Timmer44]

We always seem to play well against the Hurricanes, dating back to the infamous stick break celly by Burrows.

I've seen some massive goals at GM Place/Rogers Arena and I have never heard it as loud as that goal. Only comparables was Daniel's retirement goal and Burrows game 7 winner vs the Hawks, but I still think the Canes one was louder.

 

[HelloCookie]

Burns went to buy lean from mcD drive through in washington at midnight before crossing the border confirmed

 

[kanucks25]

I've seen some massive goals at GM Place/Rogers Arena and I have never heard it as loud as that goal. Only comparables was Daniel's retirement goal and Burrows game 7 winner vs the Hawks, but I still think the Canes one was louder.

I haven't been to many games (and no playoff games at all) but was lucky enough to be at both of these.

It was definitely loud for both.

 

[Nucker101]

Except Silovs' problem is that he struggles with low-percentage point shots, which is basically what Carolina spam at opposition nets.

As an aside, I suspect you can probably use % of shots taken by defenders as a predictor of PDO. Carolina last year was at 32% and we were at 27%.

Good point, this thought actually crossed my mind right after I posted. I guess Anaheim does make the most sense.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

Why would we take out Desharnais for Juulsen?

Does the coaching staff not like VD? It seems they prefer Forbort

 

[Peter Griffin]

Feel like the Canes are a better opponent for Silovs to regain confidence since they tend spam more lower % shots and have less high end finishers compared to NJ but we'll see.

Silovs really seems to struggle with tracking on some of the low percentage shots though.

Edit: I gotta really start reading the whole thread before replying.

 

[Slapshot_11]

VD signing looking like a big mistake

 

[kanucks25]

Does the coaching staff not like VD?

I mean, does anyone like VD?











Oh, you mean Vinny Desharnais.

Yeah not sure.

 

[Josepho]

Except Silovs' problem is that he struggles with low-percentage point shots, which is basically what Carolina spam at opposition nets.

As an aside, I suspect you can probably use % of shots taken by defenders as a predictor of PDO. Carolina last year was at 32% and we were at 27%.

In case anyone wants to take a look, here are the % of shots from defencemen in all situations last year. The teams are listed in descending order by PDO.

1) VAN: (638/2328) = 27.4%, PDO = 1.025
2) WPG: (689/2489) = 27.7%, PDO = 1.023
3) BOS: (569/2396) = 23.7%, PDO = 1.022
4) DAL: (683/2588) = 26.4%, PDO = 1.015
5) NYR: (667/2582) = 25.8%, PDO = 1.014
6) DET: (649/2375) = 27.3%, PDO = 1.013
7) TBL: (595/2403) = 24.7%, PDO = 1.01
8) COL: (829/2707) = 30.6%, PDO = 1.009
9) FLA: (771/2766) = 27.9%, PDO = 1.009
10) ARI: (559/2275) = 24.6%, PDO = 1.006
11) LAK: (637/2616) = 24.4%, PDO = 1.006
12) VGK: (727/2548) = 28.5%, PDO = 1.006
13) STL: (659/2370) = 27.8%, PDO = 1.005
14) TOR: (538/2671) = 20.1%, PDO = 1.005
15) EDM: (821/2766) = 29.7%, PDO = 1.003
16) NYI: (697/2470) = 28.2%, PDO = 1.003
17) NSH: (769/2641) = 29.1%, PDO = 1.002
18) CAR: (900/2735) = 32.9%, PDO = 1.001
19) MTL: (613/2269) = 27.0%, PDO = 1
20) WSH: (563/2171) = 25.9%, PDO = 0.999
21) BUF: (661/2535) = 26.1%, PDO = 0.995
22) MIN: (606/2472) = 24.5%, PDO = 0.994
23) PIT: (786/2686) = 29.2%, PDO = 0.994
24) SEA: (669/2348) = 28.4%, PDO = 0.994
25) NJD: (598/2517) = 23.8%, PDO = 0.991
26) CBJ: (700/2548) = 28.4%, PDO = 0.99
27) CGY: (761/2573) = 29.6%, PDO = 0.989
28) ANA: (538/2194) = 24.5%, PDO = 0.983
29) OTT: (758/2602) = 29.1%, PDO = 0.981
30) CHI: (547/2153) = 25.4%, PDO = 0.975
31) SJS: (622/2069) = 30.1%, PDO = 0.974
32) PHI: (702/2708) = 25.9%, PDO = 0.969

Don't really see anything here, but I might later look at shooting percentage or something like "Shots for by defenceman percentage" that takes into account the proportion of shots surrendered to defencemen.

 

[MS]

In case anyone wants to take a look, here are the % of shots from defencemen in all situations last year. The teams are listed in descending order by PDO.

1) VAN: (638/2328) = 27.4%, PDO = 1.025
2) WPG: (689/2489) = 27.7%, PDO = 1.023
3) BOS: (569/2396) = 23.7%, PDO = 1.022
4) DAL: (683/2588) = 26.4%, PDO = 1.015
5) NYR: (667/2582) = 25.8%, PDO = 1.014
6) DET: (649/2375) = 27.3%, PDO = 1.013
7) TBL: (595/2403) = 24.7%, PDO = 1.01
8) COL: (829/2707) = 30.6%, PDO = 1.009
9) FLA: (771/2766) = 27.9%, PDO = 1.009
10) ARI: (559/2275) = 24.6%, PDO = 1.006
11) LAK: (637/2616) = 24.4%, PDO = 1.006
12) VGK: (727/2548) = 28.5%, PDO = 1.006
13) STL: (659/2370) = 27.8%, PDO = 1.005
14) TOR: (538/2671) = 20.1%, PDO = 1.005
15) EDM: (821/2766) = 29.7%, PDO = 1.003
16) NYI: (697/2470) = 28.2%, PDO = 1.003
17) NSH: (769/2641) = 29.1%, PDO = 1.002
18) CAR: (900/2735) = 32.9%, PDO = 1.001
19) MTL: (613/2269) = 27.0%, PDO = 1
20) WSH: (563/2171) = 25.9%, PDO = 0.999
21) BUF: (661/2535) = 26.1%, PDO = 0.995
22) MIN: (606/2472) = 24.5%, PDO = 0.994
23) PIT: (786/2686) = 29.2%, PDO = 0.994
24) SEA: (669/2348) = 28.4%, PDO = 0.994
25) NJD: (598/2517) = 23.8%, PDO = 0.991
26) CBJ: (700/2548) = 28.4%, PDO = 0.99
27) CGY: (761/2573) = 29.6%, PDO = 0.989
28) ANA: (538/2194) = 24.5%, PDO = 0.983
29) OTT: (758/2602) = 29.1%, PDO = 0.981
30) CHI: (547/2153) = 25.4%, PDO = 0.975
31) SJS: (622/2069) = 30.1%, PDO = 0.974
32) PHI: (702/2708) = 25.9%, PDO = 0.969

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Don't really see anything here, but I might later look at shooting percentage or something like "Shots for by defenceman percentage" that takes into account the proportion of shots surrendered to defencemen.

I should actually have said 'offensive sh%' which is only half of PDO. Obviously the type of shots you take at one end of the rink won't affect how well your goalie performs at the other end.

 

[Josepho]

In case anyone wants to take a look, here are the % of shots from defencemen in all situations last year. The teams are listed in descending order by PDO.

1) VAN: (638/2328) = 27.4%, PDO = 1.025
2) WPG: (689/2489) = 27.7%, PDO = 1.023
3) BOS: (569/2396) = 23.7%, PDO = 1.022
4) DAL: (683/2588) = 26.4%, PDO = 1.015
5) NYR: (667/2582) = 25.8%, PDO = 1.014
6) DET: (649/2375) = 27.3%, PDO = 1.013
7) TBL: (595/2403) = 24.7%, PDO = 1.01
8) COL: (829/2707) = 30.6%, PDO = 1.009
9) FLA: (771/2766) = 27.9%, PDO = 1.009
10) ARI: (559/2275) = 24.6%, PDO = 1.006
11) LAK: (637/2616) = 24.4%, PDO = 1.006
12) VGK: (727/2548) = 28.5%, PDO = 1.006
13) STL: (659/2370) = 27.8%, PDO = 1.005
14) TOR: (538/2671) = 20.1%, PDO = 1.005
15) EDM: (821/2766) = 29.7%, PDO = 1.003
16) NYI: (697/2470) = 28.2%, PDO = 1.003
17) NSH: (769/2641) = 29.1%, PDO = 1.002
18) CAR: (900/2735) = 32.9%, PDO = 1.001
19) MTL: (613/2269) = 27.0%, PDO = 1
20) WSH: (563/2171) = 25.9%, PDO = 0.999
21) BUF: (661/2535) = 26.1%, PDO = 0.995
22) MIN: (606/2472) = 24.5%, PDO = 0.994
23) PIT: (786/2686) = 29.2%, PDO = 0.994
24) SEA: (669/2348) = 28.4%, PDO = 0.994
25) NJD: (598/2517) = 23.8%, PDO = 0.991
26) CBJ: (700/2548) = 28.4%, PDO = 0.99
27) CGY: (761/2573) = 29.6%, PDO = 0.989
28) ANA: (538/2194) = 24.5%, PDO = 0.983
29) OTT: (758/2602) = 29.1%, PDO = 0.981
30) CHI: (547/2153) = 25.4%, PDO = 0.975
31) SJS: (622/2069) = 30.1%, PDO = 0.974
32) PHI: (702/2708) = 25.9%, PDO = 0.969

View attachment 922950

Don't really see anything here, but I might later look at shooting percentage or something like "Shots for by defenceman percentage" that takes into account the proportion of shots surrendered to defencemen.

Here's the one for SH% as well:

 

[Canucks LB]

VD signing looking like a big mistake

he had one bad game, other than that, he’s been pretty good, I’m really confused right now

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I see, it’s the annual “I can’t believe rich white man who grew up in a middle class/rich family supports Trump.” on social media.

Just wait til they learn who Miller supports, or like 80% of the league

 

[Krispy]

No Šilovs still?