GDT: GM04 | Vancouver Canucks @ Florida Panthers | Thurs. Oct 17th | 4pm PST | SNP | I Am Not Entertained

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Shut up everyone, Luke Gazdic is on. Maybe you'll learn something if you pay attention.

How to gargle Oiler mayonnaise?

 

[Bobby9]

This is a completely different team from last year. I dunno what happened but hopefully the boys can figure it out.

Starting to think a heavy playoff run really drains the players completely and lasts months.

Colorado after a few runs. Toast.
Oilers after a run. Toast.
Canucks. Toast.

 

[thecupismine]

The negative reaction to Bains is absolutely fascinating. This is the first time, ever, I’ve seen this sort of reaction to a homegrown rookie getting an opportunity.

He’s looked pretty good offensively I’ve though, had struggled with a couple defensive reads which is par for the course for a young player.

The reason he keeps seeing ice time is he’s one of the few guys actually hustling and moving his feet out there. Maybe he’s playing a bit too much, but he’s hardly the problem out there right now.

Blueger being our leading point getter up the middle is the main issue.

 

[JT Milker]

Who does Gazdic know that landed him this role?

 

[EpochLink]

Shut up everyone, Luke Gazdic is on. Maybe you'll learn something if you pay attention.

I hope someone pours laxatives in his coffee

 

[Brookbank]

This is a completely different team from last year. I dunno what happened but hopefully the boys can figure it out.

It is not a different team at all to the team that played the first 2 road games last year. And the game threads probably mirror also. Peak doom last year was the first road trip out east. The same as now.

 

[Coffee]

This screams "homegrown kid sells tickets, play him in the top 6" from Frankie f***nuts.

Perhaps, but would JR and Toc even be down with that ?

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Demko

Demko wasn't out there leading the league in scoring though, at one point it was Miller/Pettersson/Hughes for 1 2 and 3 in the entire league.

 

[wonton15]

I miss Ilya Mikheyev

 

[Kryten]

I think players also feel the same.

This might be a blueberry problem.

Doubt it. Jersey sales profits are shared league wide

 

[Coffee]

I hope someone pours laxatives in his coffee

Never tamper with a man's coffee

 

[Peen]

The Bains experiment on the first line is stupid and not a position for him to succeed, but he looks better than he did last year and has made significant improvements y/o/y. He almost scored net front but Vasi is gigantic and made a stick save.

Just do the 21 - 40 - 8, 6 - 9 - 74 thing.

Bains lower down. It’s just weird whatever Tocchet has been up to early on here. Nothing seems to make sense

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

I miss Ilya Mikheyev

He missed the net

 

[EpochLink]

Perhaps, but would JR and Toc even be down with that ?

Not even, Bains ain't shit.
Bains has shown nothing since he's been called up in the NHL.

Guys just another Prab Rai with inflated junior numbers, straight bum.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Demko wasn't out there leading the league in scoring though, at one point it was Miller/Pettersson/Hughes for 1 2 and 3 in the entire league.

Demko was the reason the Canucks record stayed ok after the first silly Oilers game.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Pretty decent period with some things to clean up (PP, defensive coverage).

The fact that our top guys haven't popped and we're about even with a FLA team without Tkachuk/Barkov.... checks out.

Lots of Bains hate but if he wasn't getting high leverage minutes on an already struggling line on a winless team, I think there wouldn't be so much frustration. Doesn't look like he'll ever be a fast player but needs to make the right reads and get into positioning early to stick around. Tough position for him to be in and learn right now.

This is my complaints. I don't have an issue with them giving Bains an extended look even if I don't see the skill myself. Maybe I'm just missing something and Tocchet knows best. It's where he is in the lineup and his lack of offense that makes the decision baffling to me.

I think we're juggling lines far too quickly. If we absolutely have to move Debrusk away from Petey, put him with Miller not in a third line role after only three games.

 

[MS]

Bains doesn’t look nearly as bad as the reaction he’s getting right now would warrant. He’s distributed the puck fairly effectively and isn’t standing out as better/worse than his linemates. He’s had a couple missed assignments, but so have several players. The team as a whole looks sluggish right now, not sure why we’re singling out Bains.

The weird thing is that prospects NEVER get criticized here. I can remember Yann Sauve looking mindblowingly unplayable and the general mood here being quite positive about it.

People were losing their shit about Lekkerimaki looking almost exactly like this in the preseason.

It’s weird.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

I don't think anyone hates Bains. Great story but he's just not a Top 6 forward in the NHL and is likely a AHL Star/NHL tweener long term. This is a get it done league so if he wants to stick in the NHL he will have to produce. Most AHLers only get so many opportunities to produce before they are downgraded to Linden Vey status.

 

[Kryten]

Never tamper with a man's coffee

Its already a laxative anyway

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

The weird thing is that prospects NEVER get criticized here. I can remember Yann Sauve looking mindblowingly unplayable and the general mood here being quite positive about it.

People were losing their shit about Lekkerimaki looking almost exactly like this in the preseason.

It’s weird.

It's entirely the opposite.

Remember Sergei "2 goal" Shirokov?

 

[Coffee]

Its already a laxative anyway

That's right

 

[ephmrl]

I think there’s just a lot of negativity surrounding the team’s start and it’s easy to single out the guy playing in the top 6 who hasn’t proven himself.

The players who should be singled out are Pettersson, Miller, Boeser. If they were playing to expectations then the team would be winning games. No problem with players such as Garland, Hoglander or even Bains being in the top six right now as they’re actually hustling and trying to make a difference on the ice. Ideally Bains would be in the bottom six or 13th forward, but if the core players aren’t performing then it’s irrelevant who’s playing the third spot on the Miller-Boeser line.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

I think re: Bains - we all just have Willie ptsD flashbacks and he reminds us of Megna/Chaput/Vey playing in the top 6.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Petey, Miller, Hughes, Brock all blegh.

Bains is fine. Shouldn't be stapled to 69 but he hasn't been bad.

Brannstrom looks alright.

 

[Peen]

I don't think anyone hates Bains. Great story but he's just not a Top 6 forward in the NHL and is likely a AHL Star/NHL tweener long term. This is a get it done league so if he wants to stick in the NHL he will have to produce. Most AHLers only get so many opportunities to produce before they are downgraded to Linden Vey status.

You are right about his ability.

But this is his first audition. Last season, it was only two games or so w/ JT. And his line was f***ing destroyed those games. He then was on the Lindholm revolving door the remainder.

He’s done far better than he did last year w/ Miller, but definitely still a tweener.