News Article: GM Steve Staios looking for veteran help to assist the Senators' young core

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That would narrow down the list of options quite a bit.

Looking at some forwards that could fit what you are looking for:
There is Blake Coleman (32) in Calgary, Yanni Gourde (32) in Seattle, Pat Maroon (35) in Minnesota, Brayden Schenn (32) in St Louis, Jordan Staal (31) in Carolina, Barclay Goodrow (30) in New York and TJ Oshie (37) in Washington.

Then you still have Zach Parise (38), Eric Staal (38) and Jonathan Toews (35) as UFAs.

If you don't require them to have won a cup before then you could add Jamie Benn, Marcus Foligno, Anders Lee, Boone Jenner, Scott Laughton, Charlie Coyle among others to the list

On top of that there are the likes of Cal Clutterbuck, Matt Martin, Nick Foligno, Zemgus Girgensons, Kyle Okoposo. Hell even Ryan Reaves has a ton of playoff experience and the Leafs would likely be willing to move him.
Maroon would be ideal.
 

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Clutterbuck would be a fun add. Maybe throw a few checks like Brady...so other Sens get the idea too
 
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Addition by subtraction. Goofy 72 is a defensive liability w a muffin shot. Last game, his GA leads to 1st Kraken goal, then
he takes himself out of the play on 2nd goal..leaving Tatar to walk in alone on Korpi. 72 is not core, just rotten. Trade asap, and retain $ if necessary. Leafs seem ripe as a target.
The first goal was on Chychrun, he took too long to move the puck and allowed the forechecker to get on him, tried to make a weak backhand pass to the forward (which could have been a pass on his forehand had he not delayed so long forcing him to turn from the forecheck's pressure) that the forechecker easily picked off batting it back, it went towards Chabot but he couldn't control it as it bounced on him.

Chychrun also inexplicably went to his knees to block a shot that had it hit him would have been going about 6 feet wide,
 

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The first goal was on Chychrun, he took too long to move the puck and allowed the forechecker to get on him, tried to make a weak backhand pass to the forward (which could have been a pass on his forehand had he not delayed so long forcing him to turn from the forecheck's pressure) that the forechecker easily picked off batting it back, it went towards Chabot but he couldn't control it as it bounced on him.

Chychrun also inexplicably went to his knees to block a shot that had it hit him would have been going about 6 feet wide,
You're right. Chych did create the original GA, which bounced off Chabot. But as the play continued into the corner, Gourde beats Bath to the net and scores..while 72 swoops by, and fails to stop Gourde going straight to the net. Swoopy. Stick checks, not enough body
 

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Not sure why we should want to compete with playoff teams for these vets at the deadline. We should be offloading our own expiring contracts and getting max assets. The acquisitions should wait till the off-season, preferably via free agency rather than divesting of assets IMO.
100 percent this season is long over. Wild how there is no market for Kubalik he only makes 2.5 million unbeliveable that was the main player piece back for an extended Debrincat. I am not suprised he is absolutely horrible. Does nothing, easy to play against.
 

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Here’s the interview (starts at 1 hr 7 mins):

Thanks for that link... That was a good interview. I respect how Staios is, very candid. I don't see a lot of smoke and mirrors BS there. He' very forthright, not scared to answer a direct question.

Interesting that many take the "we need more veterans" comment to mean that there is no way a core player could be traded. Given their CAP issues they really don't have a ton of flexibility in moving parts for return parts. I also don't think they would say out loud which core they'd consider moving. They could be listening to any offers that make the team better at this point, if only for the shakeup, change in culture. Of course there are likely a couple key players not on the table (Stu, Brady, Sandy) but i don't doubt that serious offers for any others would be contemplated.
 
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You're right. Chych did create the original GA, which bounced off Chabot. But as the play continued into the corner, Gourde beats Bath to the net and scores..while 72 swoops by, and fails to stop Gourde going straight to the net. Swoopy. Stick checks, not enough body
Had he stopped Gourde from getting to the net Bjorkstrand was right there too, Batherson letting Gourde get position on him meant Gourde was able to get the pass off before Chabot got to gourde or the puck at which point the goal was pretty much inevitable unless Chychrun either blocks the shot or clears the rebound but he wasn't in position to do either. Tkachuk was a bit too late to disrupt the initial shot, lots of blame to go around on that goal, but singling out Chabot really seems like scapegoating,
 
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100 percent this season is long over. Wild how there is no market for Kubalik he only makes 2.5 million unbeliveable that was the main player piece back for an extended Debrincat. I am not suprised he is absolutely horrible. Does nothing, easy to play against.
Kubalik is quietly on pace for another 20 goal season, which was surprising to me because I agree he's been invisible most nights.
 

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Kubalik is quietly on pace for another 20 goal season, which was surprising to me because I agree he's been invisible most nights.
Dude is a shooting machine. When he's set up properly he's lethal, like he was last game. Not sure we're making optimal use of him. Maybe we just don't have a good enough passer to pair with him, whether on the PP or 5vs5.
 
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Not sure why we should want to compete with playoff teams for these vets at the deadline. We should be offloading our own expiring contracts and getting max assets. The acquisitions should wait till the off-season, preferably via free agency rather than divesting of assets IMO.
Mostly agree with this but I suspect the team is imploding psychologically and there may be some issues in the room.
He likely knows who he wants to move out and looking to get a vet in return to help stabilize the situation.
 

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I never did like the acquisition of Chychrun. I don't think he has great hockey sense, and is kind of the anti-Sanderson on that score. It is also bone stupid to have three left hand shot defencemen all making big money and all requiring top four minutes. This is what Staios meant, I believe, when he talked about all the pieces needing to fit together - Dorion went out and got Chychrun because he was a skilled player, never stopping to think if there was plan about who could move to the right side. Almost a year later and we still haven't figured that part out.

Ditto for Tarasenko - Dorion signed him with no plan on where he might fit. Heck, when he got to camp they tried playing a 31 year old veteran on his wrong wing for the first time in his career. This does not scream planning. For most of the year, we have had a five million AAV player on the third line because there was no plan on how to use him in our top six. When Staios talked about decisions that were made without collaboration, he may well have been thinking about this one.

Remaking our roster may have to wait until the draft. When that day comes, though, you are going to see some skilled players go out the door and be replaced by guys who may be less skilled, but who have character and fit a plan. Fans will freak, but this will be a net benefit to the club if done right...
 

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If Kubalik isn’t scoring he’s completely useless just as I said before the season. He adds very little to this team
Kubalik was a cap dump by the Wings to make the money work on the Debrincat deal. Dorion could have said no and forced Yzerman to find a different buyer for Kubalik, but just like he accepted four different conditions on the first rounder he took he rolled over yet again. Now we are stuck with a guy who we may not even get claimed if we waive him. Best we can hope for is a late pick if we are willing to retain the maximum 50 percent.
 
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Kubalik was a cap dump by the Wings to make the money work on the Debrincat deal. Dorion could have said no and forced Yzerman to find a different buyer for Kubalik, but just like he accepted four different conditions on the first rounder he took he rolled over yet again. Now we are stuck with a guy who we may not even get claimed if we waive him. Best we can hope for is a late pick if we are willing to retain the maximum 50 percent.
In terms of Kubalik it doesn’t really matter though. He has an expiring deal so if we can’t move him we can let him walk and it will be the same as not getting him at all in the end.

I suspect that we will be able to get something for him at the deadline when teams have struck out on their primary targets, especially if we retain making his salary next to nothing for he remainder of the season.

Shame, thought we’d get to see his shot more often.
 

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Chabot for EK.

Easy peasy.

Chychrun-Karlsson
Sanderson-Zub

Use Sanderson pair as defensive deployment.

Use Karlsson pair as offensive deployment.

Everyone is deployed to what they are best suited to and paired with someone they are best suited to. Not to mention they are all playing their natural positions.
 
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I never did like the acquisition of Chychrun. I don't think he has great hockey sense, and is kind of the anti-Sanderson on that score. It is also bone stupid to have three left hand shot defencemen all making big money and all requiring top four minutes. This is what Staios meant, I believe, when he talked about all the pieces needing to fit together - Dorion went out and got Chychrun because he was a skilled player, never stopping to think if there was plan about who could move to the right side. Almost a year later and we still haven't figured that part out.

Ditto for Tarasenko - Dorion signed him with no plan on where he might fit.
Heck, when he got to camp they tried playing a 31 year old veteran on his wrong wing for the first time in his career. This does not scream planning. For most of the year, we have had a five million AAV player on the third line because there was no plan on how to use him in our top six. When Staios talked about decisions that were made without collaboration, he may well have been thinking about this one.

Remaking our roster may have to wait until the draft. When that day comes, though, you are going to see some skilled players go out the door and be replaced by guys who may be less skilled, but who have character and fit a plan. Fans will freak, but this will be a net benefit to the club if done right...
I made the same point back then before the trade occurred and this summer. I kept saying we have 4 good defenseman but questioned whether we had two good pairs. That idea didn't get much traction and was lost in the enthusiasm.

No plan or strategy seems to be a common theme amongst a lot of these moves.
 
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Chabot for EK.

Easy peasy.

Chychrun-Karlsson
Sanderson-Zub

Use Sanderson pair as defensive deployment.

Use Karlsson pair as offensive deployment.

Everyone is deployed to what they are best suited to and paired with someone they are best suited to. Not to mention they are all playing their natural positions.
Another day, another EK trade proposal.

An offensive RD is not what this team needs right now. At all. Stay at home RD or bust. Idk what makes you think chych and EK are best paired together. EK was always at his best with a steady stay at home partner, and chych ain't it. He needs a methot type who can log minutes, hit hard, and cover his mistakes.

And before you go there, we've all heard the argument that EK driving offense outweighs his defensive liabilities... I'm not at all sold that this notion would actually help our team.
 

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Dude is a shooting machine. When he's set up properly he's lethal, like he was last game. Not sure we're making optimal use of him. Maybe we just don't have a good enough passer to pair with him, whether on the PP or 5vs5.
That's what I think we are missing: a playmaking center to set up our shooters. We have one in Stutzle and need another. I don't see Norris nor Pinto as being strong playmaking centres. Trading one of them + to get one would be nice.

We also need to improve our third pair D (bigger, tougher, physical in front of the net and on the boards). A young Volchenkov would do nicely.
 

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Another day, another EK trade proposal.

An offensive RD is not what this team needs right now. At all. Stay at home RD or bust. Idk what makes you think chych and EK are best paired together. EK was always at his best with a steady stay at home partner, and chych ain't it. He needs a methot type who can log minutes, hit hard, and cover his mistakes.

And before you go there, we've all heard the argument that EK driving offense outweighs his defensive liabilities... I'm not at all sold that this notion would actually help our team.

The problem with Chych is that he is asked to be a physical defensive guy AND a play driving playmaking defender.

Have you seen the Hronek-Hughes pairing? The Toews-Makar?

none of those guys are stay at home and both pairs are of the same type and build as Chych-Karlsson, and they are flat out two of the best pairings in the NHL.

Chychrun being able to simplify his game and focus on his defence, shooting and physical play is a good thing.
 

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Another day, another EK trade proposal.

An offensive RD is not what this team needs right now. At all. Stay at home RD or bust. Idk what makes you think chych and EK are best paired together. EK was always at his best with a steady stay at home partner, and chych ain't it. He needs a methot type who can log minutes, hit hard, and cover his mistakes.

And before you go there, we've all heard the argument that EK driving offense outweighs his defensive liabilities... I'm not at all sold that this notion would actually help our team.
I think if we are playing the game in the N and O zones more than the D zone, that would definitely help the GF versus GA ratio. However, we cannot afford EK while having Chabot, Sanderson, Chychrun and Zub at D.
 
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Sens are in a pickle with a) Cap Space b) Roster construction c)Lack of organizational depth
Specifically mentions the BIG Name hunting starting with Duchene and following up with Chychrun and DeBrincat. - Excellent points btw

Dorion built a wreck. I was going to say he wrecked this team, but he didn't. He built it like this on purpose. It's unreal.
 
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Dorion built a wreck. I was going to say he wrecked this team, but he didn't. He built it like this on purpose. It's unreal.
Which of the following statements is more true?
a) the team is massively underperforming, which is why the results are what they are
b) the team was never good to begin with and it's no surprise it's not performing well
 

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