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I don't blame him. This season has been the worst on record for LA. Sometimes the bleeding just needs to stop.
GDT: GM#79 LA Kings vs Calgary Flames @7:00pm 4/1/19 Kopitar's 1,000th NHL game
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kilowatt
the vibes are not immaculate
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no forward over 20 minutes, no forward under ten minutes.
unfortunately, our best player this season (wagner) had the least minutes for a forward with 10:28. only macdermid had less on the team, with 9:30.
both of them were lower than any calgary player (besides bennett, who left the game early with a jiggly brain)
unfortunately, our best player this season (wagner) had the least minutes for a forward with 10:28. only macdermid had less on the team, with 9:30.
both of them were lower than any calgary player (besides bennett, who left the game early with a jiggly brain)
Kingsfan1
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I really believe this quote has something to do with Willie D. Worst mistake of Blake’s career as a GM so far . The team just doesn’t like him , he’s terrible and doesn’t seem to know what he’s doing
KingsFan7824
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Quick is the golden boy. Conn Smythe winner. He's the big game, non-system goalie. Maybe he doesn't suck, but maybe he always was a system goalie that outside opinions said he was? How many big games has he won since 2014?
The only real chance they had to trade him would've been in June 2012, before he got the 10 year contract. I'm going to guess that nobody would've wanted to trade him at that time, even if it was the right move, which it would've been. They still had both Bernier and Jones, and they didn't get anything for either guy. Or nothing anyone wanted for Jones anyway. Also had to trade Kuemper, who they got nothing for. 3rd rd pick for Scrivens. Had they traded Quick after the Conn Smythe, they could've gotten something decent. Nobody knew 2014 would end up happening, but then Quick wasn't as big a factor that year as he was in 2012. I guess he rallied the troops after everyone got smoked in SJ, but he was also part of the team that got smoked in SJ in those first couple games.
Once DL handed Quick that contract, all options were thrown out the window.
The problem is they were last in the league when they fired Stevens. The players on this team have no room to talk. Who cares what coach they like or dislike. They got tired of the guy they actually won with. Did they get tired of winning? They didn't want to play professional hockey from day 1 of training camp this year. They just weren't interested. They deserve WD, and they'll also likely turn on whoever it is that stands behind them next year in quick fashion, because none of them are likely going anywhere.
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I mean on one hand i agree with where he is coming from, on the other he needs to be a leader and professional for the kids.
If lombardi had made the Kemper trade he wold be crucified. At the time I liked the deal as I was in the camp "may as well get something for him" but man has he looked good in Arizona. Looks bad now.
KINGS17
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Willie D. is no gem, but signing Doughty to an 8-year, $88M deal isn't looking like a great decision either right now.
I don't blame Blake for that though, one of those had to pay him situations. Once PK signed his deal it insured Drew would get double digits on his next deal.
I feel you. I went out after 12 years at the end of 2014, best choice I ever made.
Reaper45
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Give me 96 over this. At least they had heart and were more exciting.
tny760
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i already lost count of how many times i've watched this this morning
Legionnaire
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What difference does that make? Do you honestly think cap space is going to be an issue? How? Why? Who are we going to spend it on? Are ticket prices going to drop?
No. The reality is that there isn't anyone else out there worth spending money on through UFA or even trade that would make a difference. Bad season not worth the money so it would hurt his trade value? No. Teams willing to give a high return aren't going to give up but a tiny bit more because he makes 5 mil. Easier to trade? Sure. But if not for the return then what is the point?
Even with a full rebuild it wouldn't come it wouldn't have an impact with the youth because who knows how long that would take.
And as long time Kings fans I hope you're not suggesting the plugging the gaping hole in the ship approach that this franchise took for years either because it never worked then an it won't work now.
KINGS17
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It is never one of those "had to pay him" situations. The GMs who figure this out are going to have a leg up on everyone else.
Since GMs are too timid on this front, the owners may have to fix this problem.
KINGS17
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Do I honestly think Doughty is going to be a major contributor on the next Kings team to contend? That is the correct question.
Kings management has already missed opportunities to jump start a rebuild. First with Kopitar, then Carter, and now Doughty. Doughty plays a position where longevity isn't that rare, but he isn't impressing me as the kind of person who is going to lead a team from dark days into contention. Hell, Wagner impresses me as more of a leader than Doughty. Would he be a great player on a contending team? You bet.
Time to move on from the players who made the Kings great during the three year run. I will always be grateful to the players and management of that era.
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I was just going to say that if the brass needed any type of an excuse to fire the coach.l, this last game would give them all the ammo they would ever need. He rested a ton of players, should have been worn out from celebrating, and we rolled over and died.
I really don’t like the fact that Drew stated that. I know he’s frustrated but if he is sticking around he has to show the kids the right attitude.
Allberga and Hahn were speaking on NHL radio after the game when I was driving home from my own hockey game last night. They thought LA played pathetic but I was surprised that they actually thought that Quick just needs a new team and he will rebound. One of them made the quote that he may be getting up there in age but as of last year he was an elite goalie. He stated that they just don’t fall off that fast.
Hopefully another GM thinks the same thing and bites.
Our year started crappy with Vilardi going down, then Brown going down. At the same time the newest acquisition to the team started out playing at a point per game pace. Then WD enters the room and the remaining three tires on the truck go flat.
I don’t think will be a super strong team next year, I just want to see the guys play with some passion. The only person I seen this year came from a rookie with all kind of wheels, a Russian that got staples to the end of the bench, and for the most part the true captain of our rudderless ship who had the C stripped from him.
I don't know but Doughty was just quoted in an article that I read saying a lot of nice things about Willie D. He didn't need to go as far as he did so it seemed like he was happy with the guy.
KingsFan7824
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I doubt anyone on this team wants to be playing games right now, regardless of who the coach is. They've sucked all year.
There wasn't another move to make. Giving Quick the 10 year contract has cost the Kings every other goalie they've had. Kuemper wasn't re-signing here. Certainly not for almost $4m over 2 years.
By then, all the Gretzky era Kings were mostly gone. They had little money, so it was mostly never were's on the team. At least it was different. This team has to deal with bad contracts in a hard cap league.
Legionnaire
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Do I honestly think Doughty is going to be a major contributor on the next Kings team to contend? That is the correct question.
Kings management has already missed opportunities to jump start a rebuild. First with Kopitar, then Carter, and now Doughty. Doughty plays a position where longevity isn't that rare, but he isn't impressing me as the kind of person who is going to lead a team from dark days into contention. Hell, Wagner impresses me as more of a leader than Doughty. Would he be a great player on a contending team? You bet.
Time to move on from the players who made the Kings great during the three year run. I will always be grateful to the players and management of that era.
That sounds bitter more than logical to me.
lumbergh
It was an idea. I didn't say it was a good idea.
I'm totally with you on how shitty this team has been this year, but I don't get the Kopitar 0 PP goals and Doughty 0 even strength goals thing. Does it make any difference if you swap 3 of Kopitar's even strength goals with 3 of Doughty's PP goals? Still the same number of goals, and still the same suckage.
It is quite shocking that a player of Doughty's skill can go an entire season with over 1400 minutes played at 5 vs. 5 and not score a single goal. I don't know how to explain that.
KINGS17
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Why bitter? I don't have anything to be bitter about. I appreciate what each and every player that was a part of the 2012-2015 run brought to Kings fans. Now I want to see it and experience it again with a new roster. There is nothing bitter about it.
Legionnaire
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A new roster? That is what makes it sound bitter. How is that even possible without a complete rebuild. And mind you this is with Rob Blake and Luc Robitaille around.
I see more of a chance of them being able to turn this team around than I do placing a complete rebuild in their hands. Don't you?
KINGS17
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I don't see anyone turning this roster around. At best, this roster is a black hole team. I have been advocating a complete rebuild for quite some time.
