Post-Game Talk: GM 31 | Utah def. Canucks | 3-2 (OT) (Heinen, Joshua) | Soaked.

VanJack

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I imagine Tocchet's short and sweet press conference had more to do with hopping on a plane to Vegas more than anything else.

Besides, what's he going to say? He's not going to Psycho-analyze his players. We all saw it. Got up 2-0 then folded like a cheap camp stool. A cheap late call on Myers and a fluky goal.

Guenther probably thought back in the day that he might be going 9th overall in 2021 to the Canucks....but was the sacrificial top-10 in the OEL trade--the gift that keeps on giving.
 

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Depends on whether you're a glass half-full, or a glass half-empty person. Hard reality is the better team won tonight.

Without Demko in the first period, this team would have been buried after the first 20 minutes. You look at this Utah blueline......from top to bottom, far more mobility and puck-handling ability. Not really surprising that it was a Utah blueliner Sergachev who got the winner.

It's really jarring in a game like this.

100%. Blowing a 2 goal lead with 10 mins left is awesome !!
it’s not often that everything goes right like last year.
The Canucks were the inferior team tonight, no doubt.

The previous champs Panthers & Avs literally lost against the canucks in convincing fashion as well just a week ago, it's hockey, it's like how life works.

Relax people.
 

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I took that as being disciplined and keeping fresh legs on the ice when given the opportunity. Bad things happen when you don't...
Yes. We saw what happens with 30 seconds left and you take a high risk play after being on top long. Petey was being disciplined with the shorter shifts.
 
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it’s not often that everything goes right like last year.
The Canucks were the inferior team tonight, no doubt.

The previous champs Panthers & Avs literally lost against the canucks in convincing fashion as well just a week ago, it's hockey, it's like how life works.

Relax people.

Even if this year isn't gonna result in anything significant, I still won't be too concerned.

Like that lovely bastard Bryzgalov said, it's only game.
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Myers certainly opened the door to Utah's comeback. The guy just has the worst timing and judgemental.

What really struck me about Miller is how much he stood around waiting for someone to pass him the puck. He seemed very flat footed and checked out for a lot of the game
 
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Caught part of Sat Shah and Dan Riccio on the Sportsnet 650 post-game. I thought I heard them say that Blueger and Suter have more even strength points than Miller and Pettersson.

Is this even possible? Not much wonder the team is up and down, if true.
 
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Caught part of Sat Shah and Dan Riccio on the Sportsnet 650 post-game. I thought I heard them say that Blueger and Suter have more even strength points than Miller and Pettersson.

Is this even possible? Not much wonder the team is up and down, if true.

Pettersson is second man the team in even-strength points so that’s not true. Both have more than Miller but have played 9 & 10 more games than him.

However, Sherwood, Blueger, and Suter have more 5v5 points than Pettersson & Miller.
 
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Caught part of Sat Shah and Dan Riccio on the Sportsnet 650 post-game. I thought I heard them say that Blueger and Suter have more even strength points than Miller and Pettersson.

Is this even possible? Not much wonder the team is up and down, if true.
the canucks are leaning top centers are playing some very tough assignments and using them to shelter weaker parts of the lineups. it's skewing things.

this team's production isn't going to look normal until they address the defense.
 

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i mean they let one high danger chance in the third. They didn't play badly in the third. Weak penalty and flukey goal sucks tho

Yeah, I have no real problems with that 3rd period.

We gave them f-all but Demko dropped a puck he should have had for 2-1 and then a soft penalty and a fluke bounce and it’s 2-2.

Thought our 1st was iffy but the last 40 minutes were very solid. Shit happens sometimes.
 

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On a different note Cooley is the real deal. Guenther is one of Canada's best young RWs he should represent as long as the NHL and International play can get sorted.

Kesselring? How the hell did the Oilers let another one get away.
 

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The PP thing is pretty goddamn weird. Like, are they going to switch off each game? Also it's like they're going out of their way to feed the rumours. Tone deaf stuff. My best, most generous guess is that they're trying to keep a spot for Garland open, and they don't want to punish either centre unduly by permanently keeping them off. But if so, and if you don't want to create a media circus, you better explain that.

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Could it also be that this team has never won anything in a half century and if we are using history to prognosticate likely won’t win a cup in our lives ?
Yep, you can add that factiod to the pile for sure.

Although I post like a 12 year old, I've followed the team since it entered the league. It's been a long and bitter ride. The media dog pile in 2011 created a degree of disillusion I'm not certain will ever leave. The crowing glory on a history of this shit sandwich. lol

I had to stop posting when Benning had his contract renewed the first time.

All this said, expectations were low this year because the team has had so little room for errors and I don't fault any organization for making some of them, particularly if they have a reasonable chance of producing a positive result, but these guys were behind a rack of eight balls.

There's a possibility this team can put it together sometime over the next couple of years, but I'm not particularly confident they'll do it. During the previous regime, I realized that winning a cup isn't inevitable, and there's now a higher likelihood I'll never see cup. As a fan, that's an unsettling, yet curious attitude to cop to.
 

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Yup. And it's not anything new to Myers either. It's not as if he hasn't had these kinds of calls against him before at the end of games but it doesn't seem to be registering with him to do something different
To put it kindly, Myers is an enigma.
 

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First period was awful yet again. The tying goal in the 3rd was a flukey bounce on an absolute bullshit call but we really didn't deserve the win anyway.

And what happened on their first goal? Their top line was on the ice against our 4th line and 3rd D pairing, and we got burned. Mistake by the coaching staff there.

There is no valid hockey-related explanation for the power play deployment. None.

I don't believe it's a case of Miller and Pettersson having that much of an issue that they can't be on the ice together. It's far-fetched enough as it is... but also the lotto line came out for a shift after the penalty kill near the end of the 2nd.

Garland really isn't that good on the power play, never has been. He should not be on the 1st unit unless we're missing forwards, and Tocchet knows that. He isn't stupid.

I would not be surprised to see a coaching change in short order here. It's not just some weird deployment or a couple of specific things, it's a whole bunch of things at once that are just way, way off.

I was too young at the time to have any understanding of what was going on during the Messier/Keenan era but I've heard and read lots, and the vibes right now are starting to remind me of it.
 
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Demko was awesome and dog shit.

2nd and 3rd goals were horrible.

I can't take this league seriously after watching that Myers call and then OT. It's just so mediocre of a product.

Exactly. A lot of people bitching about the call obviously don't understand hockey. Myers went out of his way to crosscheck another player squarely from behind two feet from the boards on a stagnant play with 40 players, 4 refs, and an entire arena watching that very moment.

What a moronic play and a penalty any day of the week. Just absolutely brain dead. Especially with 4 minutes left the microscope is on. You have to avoid stupidity like that as a player no matter how hard or soft it is. It's irrelevant, you simply don't do needless stupid shit like that unless you want to lose. What an oaf!
Wrong on this one Nick. That was a low shove with the stick that happens ten thousand times a game. Keller is tiny, Myers is huge, and Keller wasn't even close to going down. That was a HORRENDOUS call.
the canucks are leaning top centers are playing some very tough assignments and using them to shelter weaker parts of the lineups. it's skewing things.

this team's production isn't going to look normal until they address the defense.
This. A lot of people here have never played and it shows. D who can move the puck make forwards look good. Good forwards with bad D leads to teams getting stuck in their zone, or dumping it in with nobody chasing because the center is having to come back to support so deep in his own zone and often doing all of the work so it's a perpetually outnumbered situation for the forwards moving ahead.

The team has to focus on fixing its starts. The first period was horrendous.

Johnny Canucker should find a hobby that brings him joy.

People blaming Demko don't get it at all. 2nd goal was a bizarre bounce. Looks slow on the replay, but it hit Blueger or Juulsen and the puck went unpredictable.

The OT goal was unfortunate in that, if you look closely, Soucy got Sergachev's stick right as he was shooting which made the puck behave randomly and so it diverted back towards Demko's 5-hole. Nobody's fault, just the bounce.

Hold on, not nobody's fault. Miller looked horrendous tonight and has been bad since he got back. He's stupendously talented, so he's made some great plays. But his body language, how casually and disengaged he goes to the bench for changes, and the long shifts today were terrible.
Hopefully he gets through whatever is ailing him mentally, and yes I can't help but think that if Petey had played the game Miller did tonight some of the mouth breathers on here would be having a conniption.

Hughes is a superstar, Soucy is very serviceable, Myers is better than he gets credit for. The rest of the D is not NHL caliber. We need more D when Hronek is here, without him this isn't tenable for long and it will be interesting to see what the braintrust does.

I think even if Hronek comes back and starts well, and Willander comes in and makes an immediate impact, we still need a competent puck moving LD. Wonder what they will do.

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People ranting about trading Petey are the same people who would have wanted to trade Cam Neely.

Are the same people who wanted to trade Hughes in 2021.

Are the same people who wanted to trade Petey in 2021/2022.

Are the same people who were apoplectic when we acquired Hronek.

Are the same people who hated the DeBrusk signing, and wish we had spent his and Petey's money on Zadorov and Lindholm (lol).
 
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