Post-Game Talk: GM 16 | Canucks def. Blackhawks | 4-1 (Pettersson, Brannstrom, Miller, Blueger) | Arty Party!

krutovsdonut

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I find that I have a hard time staying interested in games the entire way through this year....

Quick notes:

-EP has been MUCH better lately.

-agree with Toc on the 4th line. Heinen was really noticeable and Raty and Hog played hard too. Nice line.

-Joshua looks Rusty but was so happy to see him back with Garland and Blueger.

-Lekkerimaki belongs up here.

-Soucy and Myers need to be separated. They are awful together this year.

-I am really pulling for Brannstrom. I love his break outs, his willingness to shoot and get his shots on net. He even engages physically and has been feisty. Absolutely our 3rd best d this season.

-it is absolutely ridiculous how Friedman is treated by this coaching staff. Hung around for months without playing last season and STILL re-signed here, had a nice camp, and gets to toil in te AHL while Soucy, Myers, Desharnais, Forbort and Juulsen all shit the bed nightly? We don't need FIVE f***ing big bodies. Friedman is a great passer, nice skater, and is ALWAYS engaged. He is more physical and feisty than any of those big bodies.

f***ing trade the guy. There's no reason he should be treated this way.

Move Brannstrom up with Soucy and drop Myers down to play with Friedman. I guarantee it'd be better.
friedman is on a one way and i am sure does not feel mistreated. he's also been concussed.
 
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AlainVigneaultsGum

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I find that I have a hard time staying interested in games the entire way through this year....

Quick notes:

-EP has been MUCH better lately.

-agree with Toc on the 4th line. Heinen was really noticeable and Raty and Hog played hard too. Nice line.

-Joshua looks Rusty but was so happy to see him back with Garland and Blueger.

-Lekkerimaki belongs up here.

-Soucy and Myers need to be separated. They are awful together this year.

-I am really pulling for Brannstrom. I love his break outs, his willingness to shoot and get his shots on net. He even engages physically and has been feisty. Absolutely our 3rd best d this season.

-it is absolutely ridiculous how Friedman is treated by this coaching staff. Hung around for months without playing last season and STILL re-signed here, had a nice camp, and gets to toil in te AHL while Soucy, Myers, Desharnais, Forbort and Juulsen all shit the bed nightly? We don't need FIVE f***ing big bodies. Friedman is a great passer, nice skater, and is ALWAYS engaged. He is more physical and feisty than any of those big bodies.

f***ing trade the guy. There's no reason he should be treated this way.

Move Brannstrom up with Soucy and drop Myers down to play with Friedman. I guarantee it'd be better.

Isn't Friedman still hurt? Agree though, would like to see him up for a bit.
 
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Reverend Mayhem

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I find that I have a hard time staying interested in games the entire way through this year....

Quick notes:

-EP has been MUCH better lately.

-agree with Toc on the 4th line. Heinen was really noticeable and Raty and Hog played hard too. Nice line.

-Joshua looks Rusty but was so happy to see him back with Garland and Blueger.

-Lekkerimaki belongs up here.

-Soucy and Myers need to be separated. They are awful together this year.

-I am really pulling for Brannstrom. I love his break outs, his willingness to shoot and get his shots on net. He even engages physically and has been feisty. Absolutely our 3rd best d this season.

-it is absolutely ridiculous how Friedman is treated by this coaching staff. Hung around for months without playing last season and STILL re-signed here, had a nice camp, and gets to toil in te AHL while Soucy, Myers, Desharnais, Forbort and Juulsen all shit the bed nightly? We don't need FIVE f***ing big bodies. Friedman is a great passer, nice skater, and is ALWAYS engaged. He is more physical and feisty than any of those big bodies.

f***ing trade the guy. There's no reason he should be treated this way.

Move Brannstrom up with Soucy and drop Myers down to play with Friedman. I guarantee it'd be better.

Very prescient analysis. I agree with everything, especially on Friedman. My interest didn't pique until about this time last year, but I have a new job that I love that I am pouring my soul into, and then my side hustle as a musician.

Is there somewhere I can comb through game footage, I have a very specific situation I want to present about Heinen. He's the very least of our problems but his choice of attacking is very strange.
 

MS

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1st period was weak/disappointing but by the same token we absolutely caved them for most of the last 40 minutes and they were probably lucky it wasn't 3-1 after the 2nd period. I don't recall a game, ever, where opposing D-pairings had so many shifts where they were caught out there for 90 seconds + and somehow we didn't burn them on it.

Brannstrom had a crazy good game after making a mistake on a 1-0 goal. Likely knows his spot is tenuous and love the way he attacked the game after a setback. Big hit, drew the penalty for the 1-1 PP goal by hustling and getting to the net, scored the 2-1 goal. Had several other good chances.

Raty probably had his best NHL game. Led the team in hits, skated well (or well for him, at least), got in a couple good offensive positions.

Lekkerimaki has shifts where he impresses and shifts where he looks not ready. To me he needs more AHL seasoning and 10 lbs of muscle and explosiveness and you can see where he would be in a good position next season.

Silovs really, really, really needed that game. About as important as one game can be for a player in this league.

Pettersson continues to compete well. Decision to pass up shooting on that one break was extremely frustrating.

Juulsen did OK after the 1-0 goal but there's one play in every game where he f***s up badly and the puck is in his net.

The one big negative in this game for me was Myers, who was just horrific with the puck on his stick. Did not look decisive or engaged. Multiple turnovers to create problems for the team. I thought Soucy actually played well and it's largely to his credit that Myers' errors didn't end up in our net.
 

Hodgy

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1st period was weak/disappointing but by the same token we absolutely caved them for most of the last 40 minutes and they were probably lucky it wasn't 3-1 after the 2nd period. I don't recall a game, ever, where opposing D-pairings had so many shifts where they were caught out there for 90 seconds + and somehow we didn't burn them on it.

Brannstrom had a crazy good game after making a mistake on a 1-0 goal. Likely knows his spot is tenuous and love the way he attacked the game after a setback. Big hit, drew the penalty for the 1-1 PP goal by hustling and getting to the net, scored the 2-1 goal. Had several other good chances.

Raty probably had his best NHL game. Led the team in hits, skated well (or well for him, at least), got in a couple good offensive positions.

Lekkerimaki has shifts where he impresses and shifts where he looks not ready. To me he needs more AHL seasoning and 10 lbs of muscle and explosiveness and you can see where he would be in a good position next season.

Silovs really, really, really needed that game. About as important as one game can be for a player in this league.

Pettersson continues to compete well. Decision to pass up shooting on that one break was extremely frustrating.

Juulsen did OK after the 1-0 goal but there's one play in every game where he f***s up badly and the puck is in his net.

The one big negative in this game for me was Myers, who was just horrific with the puck on his stick. Did not look decisive or engaged. Multiple turnovers to create problems for the team. I thought Soucy actually played well and it's largely to his credit that Myers' errors didn't end up in our net.
Agree with lots. Didn’t think, even after the first, this was that impressive of a game considering just how bad Chicago is. Don’t think this game will assuage any of the current concerns. Going to have to beat some good teams to do that.

Unfortunately, Myers has regressed back to the point where we all hold out breath when he has the puck as you have no idea where it’s going to end up.
 

Ernie

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I think some of the complaints about Myers are unfair.

He had success playing a simple game last season but with the Canucks looking to play more of a transition game he's been trying to do too much with the puck. He's defending off the rush just fine and is still boxing players from the front of the net.

Soucy, on the other hand, just can't connect a pass and seems to have given up trying. It's all on Myers to facilitate zone exits from the backend and it's not going well. The overall result is that the Canucks get pinned down in their own zone when those two are on the ice. When they attempt to exit the zone, too often the puck is turned over and the play comes in the other direction.

To compound the problem, Tocchet continues to give them the lion's share of defensive zone starts. It's not fair to either player - they are not paid like top 4 defensemen and shouldn't have those expectations placed on them. You can't deploy them like the best defensive players in the league and expect the same results.
 

SopelFanThe3rd

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Isn't Friedman still hurt? Agree though, would like to see him up for a bit.
He never should have went down regardless.

friedman is on a one way and i am sure does not feel mistreated. he's also been concussed.
Financially maybe not but I'm sure he'd like to play in the NHL. He didn't do anything to warrant being cut and watching the disaster D the Canucks have iced this year... I'd feel a bit annoyed.
 
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SopelFanThe3rd

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I think Myers and Soucy would be better if they were just separated. It's like their confidence together as just plummeted. Like I said, put Soucy with Brannstrom and let him just keep it simple and let Brannstrom do the work offensively.

Myers needs to just focus on playing simple D again as well. I don't know who to pair him with if Friedman is hurt. Can Juulsen or Desharnais play the left side?

I'm totally fine with Soucy and Myers in the top 6 but they are struggling as a pair and they need to have their role reduced slightly. We really just need to add one more D and it balances things a lot better. Then Desharnais and Forbort can be the 7/8 and it's a lot better. Send Juulsen down.

Hughes-Hronek
Soucy-Brannstrom
???-Myers

Marcus Pettersson would be nice.
 
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